Understanding the offer: Dynamic Routing, load leveling and part-time delivery support
June 25, 2025, 04:10 pm
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Canada Post is providing employees with the information they need to make an informed choice when it comes time to vote on the company’s final offers to CUPW.
New information on the offers website
We’ve added more information to the offers site at canadapost.ca/offers:
- Watch a video with three key facts to help you understand Dynamic Routing.
- You can also read our fact sheet on Dynamic Routing.
- Watch a video with three key facts to help you understand load leveling.
- You can also read our fact sheet on load leveling.
Part-time delivery support fact sheet
- Parcel Delivery Part Time employees will be the company’s main weekend parcel delivery workforce, ensuring letter carriers will not be required to work weekends.
- Part Time Flex employees will support delivery operations during the week. Did you know that the number of Part Time Flex positions will be capped? The cap on these roles will protect full-time employees by ensuring Part Time Flex positions cannot exceed 15% of full-time letter carrier assignments in a postal unit or installation.
About the vote
As a CUPW-represented employee, you will have the opportunity to vote on the offer for your bargaining unit. If approved, the offer would become your new collective agreement.
This comes after a year and a half of discussions with CUPW, the assistance of established mediators, four global offers and an Industrial Inquiry Commission hearing and report. The vote gives employees the opportunity to have a voice, especially as we begin to implement needed changes for the postal system.
The vote will be conducted by the Canada Industrial Relations Board. We will share information about when and how to vote as soon as it’s available.
More information
- Visit canadapost.ca/offers to learn about the offer for the Urban unit.
- Read the full contractual language of the offer for the Urban bargaining unit.
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Vote YES so we can get the offer that CUPW refused to present to the members. They knew we would take it and that doesn’t sit well with them. They are angry employees that only got involved in the union to stick it to their employer. Most likely they were poor workers who couldn’t take coaching in order to improve their work performance. This small minority wants to control our future. Don’t let them brainwash you into believing the sky is falling. A no vote will make them happy while the majority of us suffer through a lockout, lost wages and a worse offer when the union loses arbitration. We would be better off with another professional union that knows what is important to the workforce and is able to work with the employer. We don’t want our union dues wasted by pushing fringe social agendas, resisting evolving business realities and ultimately killing Canada Post in the process.
Could not agree more!
I agree, 👍
You don’t lose flyer payments on load leveling routes, it’s up to 2030. Read Understanding the offer fact sheet:
Per piece payments will continue for Neighbourhood mail. Under load leveling letter carriers who deliver Neighbourhood mail will continue to receive their per piece payments.
I will stop making sarcastic remarks as soon we get the vote results. After that I will start making funny remarks. Either way I got you to read this comment,thx.
Nice to see this up coming vote isn’t divding the membership. From all the comments I’ve read,we are a solid group united as one. Sorry it’s the best sarcasm I could come up with
I really wish I had the ability to say something sarcastic and not repeat myself by saying something sarcastic. Oh well I’ll just have to stick to being annoying.
Go here to make sure you have a voice;
https://www.cirb-ccri.gc.ca/en/vote-canada-posts-last-offers-upo-rsmc
Notice how CPC isn’t promoting this???
Vote NO!
notice how the ARE!???
A full two hours after it was on the CUPW site, but, whatever.
For comment good or bad there is a counter comment. Some with intellect, some with spite. No matter this comment is the exception. Thank You Cupw for getting us all the benefits and wages over the years. Bloody shame it took Cpc to give the workers the chance to vote on this offer. Something Cupw should have done if you weren’t control freaks on a power trip. We let you negotiate only not take away our right to vote. Now justice is being served cold and we the workers will correct the wrong.
That’s right. For once, we’re in charge. I’m ready to vote ASAP.
You don’t have a right to vote. The only right you had to vote was voting for the people that represent you. Then they decide when you vote. Why can’t people understand this??? Do we get to vote on everything that gets discussed in Parliament?? No, we vote on the people to represent us…that’s where your right to vote ends. Guess what though; you and 55,000 others of us do have a constitutional right to bargain with our employer. THAT right, like our right to strike 7 months ago, was taken away from you. THAT’S what you should be upset about!!
CUPW just announced They want Higher wages and lower stamp and parcel rates!
So you’re saying CUPWs goal is for Canada Post to lose even more money? That sounds about right.
This comment committee is getting pretty trashy, time to get the vote done and get on with our lives. Not even sure why CP wants a comment section….so they can see what the employee thinks?
Hmmm…..my take on this is it’s going to be a close vote.
I agree and it seems like it’s taking a long time to set up this vote. Let’s get on with it and get it done!
Vote NO and get CPC executives and CUPW NEB/ President fired.
Show them we matter at the regional and local level.
Save Our Jobs and our Canadian postal service.
I would classify your comment as extreme wishful thinking. It’s very unlikely that Canada Post’s CEO will get fired if there’s a ‘no’ vote. The CUPW NEB can’t be fired and they won’t resign either. The more likely result of a ‘no’ is a lock-out followed by binding arbitration. Then a final contract that is worse than this offer. But you’ll show everyone, so you can celebrate that.
Agree 💯👍
I’m reading at a grade 1 level and understand I should not make sarcastic comments because this platform is for smart comments only. So when I come across a smart comment I’ll stop the sarcasm.
I looked around there aren’t too many jobs that pay as well and have solid benefits with pension as Canads Post. Be grateful cause many people would love to trade places with you .Lose the attitudes,fear mongering and say Thank You for what you have.
Thanks for the great comment. You’re right, we do have excellent benefits and pension, with above average wages. If CUPW had been reasonable and accepted the need for change, they could have made an agreement. It’s okay though, now we all have a chance to vote on this offer. I’m voting ‘yes’.
Huge yes here too!
..and don’t forget how we got all those benefits. We stuck together as a union of people and fought for them every contract.
Difference this round of negotiations big time. Reality is we need to keep Canada Post alive and change is needed to do that. We no longer give the Government money, they have now been bailing us out. Not a good thing, don’t you think?
I’m being manipulated by many who tell me to vote No and others to vote Yes. Maybe I should tell all of you what you can do with yourselves.
I think you just did:)
Sell sell sell! Privatize Canada Post and give it a chance to survive.
CIRB us conducting the voting process. And being a federal govt agency,you know they can be trusted. After all governments are built on trust right!
Oh and CUPW is so honest! Lol! Ballots counted by hand in the backroom🙄And they never lose
CUPW always wins with a vote 95% in support. You’re suspicious of their results? Lol:)
If you think the current and previous government were and are trustworthy I don’ think so.Lets see if their even competent enough to get it done right.
Voting on offer that’s good for only 2 yrs approx. And then we get to do all this nonsense again. You’d think we spend more time earning peoples trust again and less time being stupid. Oops was I making sense again?
Vote YES and Cupw all but finished.
Vote NO Cupw gets power back
We can decide the future of many executives for Cpc and Cupw. IT FEELS GREAT!
I’m very indecisive when it comes to choices. So can I eliminate either YES or NO. Or just stick to maybe?
I can’t be trusted that I will not comment on anything that isn’t worth commenting on.That includes this comment .
What happens if people don’t have access to a computer or cellphone with gadgets? How do they vote?
Use a phone, any phone. Unless you’re going to pretend that isn’t available either. By the way, if you work here, you have the internet. Maybe a 5% chance that someone doesn’t.
This person could be a member of the CUPW NEB. They’re all stuck back in the 1970s Lol.
Starting to believe you are from the Canada Post negotiations team, what do you think who are you?
go to your library
Then ask for a mail in ballot with tracking.
They chisel their vote in a piece of sandstone and hand it in with the rest of the cupw executive.
If we start getting paid in Canadian Tire money would anybody know the difference?
Recession coming (I say we are already there) and good old CUPW is more worried about everyone except their members.
DHL CANADA and union agreed on a new contract after 2 week strike. We negotiated for 2 yrs and agreed both Cpc and Cupw are moronic. Now is it equally moronic or one side more then the other? That’s what we need to vote on.
These persona are in fact Bosses; Just saying and Just A Guy.
They are paid to monitor this info post page.
They switch from their persona to Anonymous to congratulate themselves for their post or attack an answer that they don’t like.
Now they are censoring my post, again!
Well, who are you? (Who are you? Who, who, who, who?)
I really wanna know (who are you? Who, who, who, who?)
Tell me, who are you? (Who are you? Who, who, who, who?)
‘Cause I really wanna know (who are you? Who, who, who, who?)
I’ve posted many opinions quite negative at that. And , my posts are visible to everybody. I’m not afraid to insult the company or the union …
Not just yours getting censored. Mine are all deleted and I can prove it. I printed out a few yesterday before they got removed. Nice forum CPC..
Never mind. I looked at the printout and they are from June 24th. My mistake.
Having an alternative opinion to the fanboys does not make me a boss. It’s all there for me to point out, the fear mongering and hate is not coming from the company. What’s more plausible? A company that wants to run safely and efficiently or an organization that refuses to allow change to forward that goal?
You write about a company that “runs” safely but in other post you applaud the postal worker that states no matter what, they will still finish their 8 hours work in less time than 8 hours. So you’re encouraging bad work ethic, that increases the risks musculoskeletal problems.
How about your post about Purolator getting our parcels? Doing that will reduce the work force in group 2, serving the same amount of clients that we have today, again increasing the risk of musculoskeletal problems. The Kaplan report states that parcels are the only growth possibility, and you want Purolator to get them.
Only a boss thinks like that!
Check your facts Denis. I dont want people to work and finish early, but i am smart enough to know that will happen anyway. I also dont want Puro to get anything else, but as this show goes on without end, it becomes a possibility.
People will adapt, good letter carriers (me) will get used to the system and finish in less than 8…. the majority will do it and go home earlier than 8.
You’re answer; Exactly, that’s why this is so frustrating. It’s going to be fine. They don’t pile on work when you get back,
Continue running and rushing, it’s going to be fine….Thank you boss
They add the work before you leave, not after. Big difference and likely not a big deal either, it just saves paying you for 11 hours when you are scheduled for 8. You can still cut your lawn at noon
He got you BOSS
Canada Post negotiators
Zero flyer payment and full coverage daily for load leveling routes is a massive loss for the membership and equates to an average 4-8k pay cut
Not for the membership, just a certain group. The same group that six months ago was saying the inside workers were overpaid. I don’t think they will forget that
Read! You don’t lose flyer payments on load leveling routes!!
Read! Up to 2030. Then what?
New contract new negotiations. Hopefully new union!
A different union would certainly not hurt our negotiations. Unifor was able to get a deal with DHL in less than two weeks.
Two bosses from the negotiating team!
I have been reading some many negative comments and have had enough. The comments and attitudes are a prime reason why folks are against unions! We have to work together with CPC to rebuild the competition and get back to normal. And yes that includes changes at the top; not only with CPC but CUPW as well. Like it or not weekend delivery is going to happen, part-timers are going to happen. This is the only way CPC will continue to exist and we all have jobs! Take a moment and think about all the people who would love to have your job, benefits, etc!
Some people are just negative and want to fight. They could offer us the world and they would still want to strike.
Very reasonable. I’ve been with this company a long time and I fully agree with you. Thanks
Well if they don’t like them then tell them not to read them . We can’t safe space everyone’s opinions how else do you bring awareness to a multitude of problems .
Will there still be 3 days to deliver flyers????
Are carriers still getting paid for flyers on load levelling routes???
Yes, payment remains on load leveling routes!
What is all this worrying about flyers??
Worry more about saving your job.
How have we gotten to where we are? Cpc never had any intention of negotiating since day one and still dont. . The union, flawed as it may be, is basically talking to a wall. Cpc has no intention of anything other than it’s own agenda. Asking for a vote on a final offer becausw “they said so” is not negotiating, it’s strong arming. It takes two to tango and cpc has been sitting down the entire time while waiting for the govt to make moves on their behalf. To those that think otherwise I respectfully suggest you reevaluate and key in to what is actually happening here. Now they are trying to manipulate everyone with these latest videos because they realize most are not buying into all this hot mess. Has anyone noticed that for all the doom and gloom that keeps being floated there is no real sense of urgency to resolve this? That in itself speaks volumes to me
Not just you. Cpc said that arbitration would take to long. Lol. They want to keep losing money. They shut down computers till next Wednesday. We can’t do work till it is back up. Spending money on brain washing videos for children. What a farce..
Let’s go ready for a big Yes Show cupw we need some worth a 100 a month and kick them out time for the temsters
These persona are in fact Bosses; Just saying and Just A Guy.
They are paid to monitor this info post page.
They switch from their persona to Anonymous to congratulate themselves for their post or attack an answer that they don’t like.
I don’t doubt there’s workers on this info post, but the reality is; Bosses want to negotiate here, not at the table.
Well, who are you? (Who are you? Who, who, who, who?)
I really wanna know (who are you? Who, who, who, who?)
Tell me, who are you? (Who are you? Who, who, who, who?)
‘Cause I really wanna know (who are you? Who, who, who, who?)
If you vote “No” and aren’t willing to adapt to change, you may want to think about your future with Canada Post, especially if you don’t have much seniority.
Change is necessary. We’ve adapted before, and we need to do so again. I understand that not everyone likes the current proposal; I don’t love it either. But the reality is, the long-term stability of Canada Post is at risk if we continue to operate without change.
I enjoy coming home early, and I’d like to keep things the way they are. But I also have many years left with Canada Post, and if we vote NO, there won’t be any future.
We all know strikes don’t work nowadays. The executives and president are the ones who still get paid in full while we are being their muppets. Half of the people were there for the 50-dollar strike pay, but didn’t support the cause, while the executive and president are being paid in full.
Also, let’s be real: I’m no fan of our executive or president. They’ll keep getting paid no matter what happens. They don’t care as long as our union dues keep coming in.
So think carefully. This vote isn’t about what we like, but about the future and moving forward.
The third and forth word of your post I agree with Gary……vote “No”
Boy…. you runners are real simpletins. You run and kill yourself to get done early, and then call the carriers who do the job properly lazy. Do you even hear yourselves and how silly you sound? The ones doing the job properly, and getting the help ARE THE SMART ONES! Theyre protecting the job. I dont know what planet youre from thinking running off your route and cheating should be some sort of reward. Voting no will not change anything with the changes cpc wants to implement. Yes or no, ssd load levelling and dynamic routing is coming. I guess i have you geniuses to thank for that!
Not all of us are runners and do our job properly, but I agree with you on the ones that don’t do their route properly and cutting every possible corner to get done fast are what got us in this mess.
Yes and yes to the final offer
I worked as a letter carrier and now working inside both jobs have thier challenges and can honestly say neither one is more harder on my body than the other so just saying to letter carriers quite acting like you really busy your ass every day when we now that not the case
Spell check 🤔
Word salad…
Hey! At our postal station we already had our routes restructured and ssd was implemented about 4 months ago. I am still done my route early and still loving my job! So much for all the doom and gloom hype from Cupw.
I agree. Many carriers are fine with SSD. Depends on whether the carrier is smart or not, I guess.
Notice once more…that we can’t comment on CPAA or APOC posts…but we can on posts like this one…why?
Simple.
CPC wants to break the union…
Divide and conquer.
Or, perhaps CPAA and APOC have reached agreements with CPC and there is no reason to have the forum open now. It is not a conspiracy. This forum will close as well once there is no longer a reason to keep it going.
My comment is directed to our leaders. The executives that run the union wanted a negotiated contract, but are you’re now settling for an arbitrated contract.. That is if the no voters win. And even if no wins, there’s going to be, let’s split and there have always been a split in this Union so as far as solidarity goes, it just doesn’t exist
Where is the video/fact sheet that shows the company wants to steal our government mandated sick days? We were given 10 and the company have us 6. We demand 10! And we will vote NO to get them!
They are giving us 13 they don’t have to give us any personal days. They simply need to give us only 10 days. We are getting 13. Would you rather get the 10 sick days then they’ll take away the personal days and give us the minimum mandated 10! So I’d rather take the 13
You are 100% wrong. We had 7 personal. The government mandated all federal employees get an ADDITIONAL 10 (sick days). We are owed 17 total and will win our arbitration case for certain. VOTE NO!
They mandated that you get 10, you had already bargained for 7. To be compliant they only needed to add 3 more. I know that’s hard to understand with all of the entitlement baked into this union. You should be thanking them for the extra 3, but you won’t, you just keep taking more.
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In fact cpc stated that with the 2 year contract extension at that time they would implememt 6 of the govt mandated 10 days along with the 500 dollar carrot signing bonus and then revist the other 4 at the end of that contract. That was how many years ago now? Still waiting
You answered your own question, we are still waiting and it is included. You just need to vote now
We are not OWED anything! 10 yes anything beyond that you can tell youre a Groupie with a self entitlement! Here have another sip!
Way better deal will be had in arbitration.
There will NEVER be a better deal in arb. Never has…never will be.
Ok enough is enough. Time to change our CUPW union. They are manipulating the members.
I would like to leave a comment on the CUPW site but they’re still stuck in the 70’s so haven’t figured out the message board technology yet. But they do have whistles and they aim to make that a new and profitable arm of CPC. Canada needs more whistles. Are you with me brothers and sisters ???
CUPW need lesson. Vote YES YES YES
Awesome !!! The company has put their highlights to a cute little cartoon!!! Me now understand !!!
Oh good, my two year LC turned supervisor that couldn’t do the job, will now tell me what I will do in a day….what a sad company. They have totally lost their way
Imagine being so bold as to work on personal development. Or you can stay in the entry level job for your whole life and be bitter about others trying to add to their CV
Oh yeah suspending people for unzipped vests or not backing into parking spot. You know, the real issues that plague us. Thats a real boost to the cv
dont kid yourself. That’s like saying that you just walk around in the sun, whistling and putting paper into boxes. Its disingenuous. A day without supervision and that depot would turn into Lord of the Flies
If you say so
Nice to see management true feelings toward employees on full display
VOTING YES!
I’m canceling out your vote. Good luck!
Cancelling your vote to a Yes
voting yes
I am canceling your comment by supporting all the people who choose to vote yes.
You are free to vote whatever you want or not vote at all. We live in a democratic country, not a communist country that does not let everyone the right to vote.
This vote will make up for the 30 to 60 minutes brainwashing presentations by CUPW last year for the strike mandate vote. This time we will finally get to freely vote without being bullied by CUPW to vote their way.
I’m adding to the no vote.
Still voting no.
That’s the spirit, never good enough for you. You must think you are the best.
You are always just sayin. When you start adding to the conversation we will start just listening. Please keep judging me until then. It is your job for now.
You should quit your job
What are you 3 years old?
CPC execs should all be fired with cause.
Quit while you’re ahead.
It’s only going to get worse.
Lazy people on top of both CPC and CUPW are only out for themselves.
Yeah that’s the lazy way, asking others to quit! 😁
still voting yes
Sorry Canada Post. You can sugar coat this affront to individual intelligence as much as you like until blue in the face! Hell NO!
So I like to hustle and finish my route as quickly as possible, now I’m being punished , and have to go finish the Lazy letter carrier’s routes, and they go home early and I kill myself and go home latter.
I’m voting No
You don’t take your breaks, you cut everyone’s lawn, backhand mail, card signature items, you’re why we’re in this mess to begin with, and why walks get longer and longer. You’re paid for 8 hours, do you job properly and you won’t have to cover anyone else’s work.
. You have no idea how fast of some of us actually are. So stop with the carrier envy
Yeah they call you runners.
No envy.
Let me guess, you’re faster than the speed of light.
You are so fast you just end up dumping your letter mail you don’t want to deliver into an SLB when you get back to the depot and card most of your parcels.
Having fun getting caught cutting through someone’s lawn.
I Guess your a lazy letter carrier always getting help to get your route done
You guys obviously are not letter carriers
Boy…. you runners are real simpletins. You run and kill yourself to get done early, and then call the carriers who do the job properly lazy. Do you even hear yourselves and how silly you sound? The ones doing the job properly, and getting the help ARE THE SMART ONES! Theyre protecting the job. I dont know what planet youre from thinking running off your route and cheating should be some sort of reward. Voting no will not change anything with the changes cpc wants to implement. Yes or no, ssd load levelling and dynamic routing is coming. I guess i have you geniuses to thank for that!
Buy me out !! I’m ready to sign now.
How does completing my assigned task as agreed to by union and management in efficient timely fashion have anything to do with loss of revenue? Answer: it doesn’t. You people are grasping at straws and scrambling to find ways to deflect blame for 15 yesrs of management ineptitude snd incompetence.
Because it’s insanity to have you leave early but pay you or someone else OT to finish other portions. In the plant they work the actual overtime, not just taking some extra and still finish early. You need to work the hours, the time values don’t work anymore. They can use them to assess the workload but you need to punch a clock.
Once again I assert that I uphold and fulfill my end of the deal for the job I was hired to do. That job that i have been tasked with is done fully,safely and legally as agreed to by the union and cpc in previous negotiations. If others are unable to do so maybe they should be dealt with on a case by case basis instead of painting everyone with a wide brush. If I do all my job and voluntarily do half of yours because you cant or wont that is why I get paid the extra. Look at piece work, basically the same in the sense it was designed to improve efficiency. If I can do 10 things to your 5 in same time why shouldn’t I be paid extra. As I see it the one falling to fully complete their task is the problem. Deal with them and don’t punish us
Your joking right?
Hmmm. So getting the route done as quickly as possible is right and safe? That’s why restructures happen every few years. Please deliver the route as assessed
The union fighting for the lazy!
DHL and their Union have reached an agreement after 2 weeks.
Amazing! We can’t do it in two years.
The reason: DHLs union made realistic demands, and both sides compromised. What union is that and can we replace CUPW with them?
How do you expect CUPW to negotiate down to “reasonable demands” with a company that won’t negotiate to begin with? Give your head a shake. Stop being a corporate shill.
CUPW has played a hand in how the negotiations went, they need to take responsibility for their incompetence
So you’re admitting that CUPW never starts with reasonable demands. So true. Of course the two sides negotiated many times last year and signed off on many clauses. Canada Post then offered to send unresolved issues to arbitration. That was back in October before the strike. CUPW flatly refused. But you still say it was Canada Post who wouldn’t negotiate? Okay
Exactly! 10 months wasted by management. They couldn’t even come up with an initial offer until 10 months in. Didn’t seem like they wanted to negotiate.
Unifor
Of course they did…CUPW is proud of their failures and always blame everyone but themselves.Canada Post and CUPW always look like FOOLS in the Public’s eyes.
Well, I’ll give you this CP…… you actually were able to make the links work in this post, so that’s a step up. Do I trust that you will make load leveling and dynamic routing work FAIRLY and EFFICIENTLY? Not a chance.
CUPW doesn’t care about members. They needs only our union dues. We have to understand current situation. Vote BIG YES YES
You are a fool. Roll backs will undoubtedly affect you first in your few years of working at Canada post
You’re a fool. Cant accept the changes. Quit if you don’t like your job.
I like my job. Not a quitter as you obviously are. What I dont like is cpc trying to railroad us. When you grow up you’ll understand some dsy
We have to understand current situation. People have so many options to send their mail. Better get the agreement as soon as possible. CUPW has no sense
voting yes
The fool is the one who would accept such a terrible offer from management. Sounds like you’re all in.
Rollbacks will be coming our way in the next contract.
The only thing you need to understand is management cares even less about you. CUPW is going to get us a better contract. Vote no.
can you arrange it that those who Vote Yes get a $1000 bonus and those who Vote no get a CUPW poster!!!
I’ll take the $1000 bonus from a ‘no’ voter and add it to mine. They don’t want the $1000 anyway Lol.
Such an intelligent helpful adult comment. NOT !
Sure, and those who vote yes get stuck with management’s offer, including roll backs and low raises, even when we get a better contract.
Ive been a mailman at Canada Post almost 30 years..THE CEO who has been there since 2018.. and has been at the helm of the worse 7 years at Canada Post still has a job..bonuses etc…
This
Yup. But they only focus on cutting worker’s raises and benefits.
Load levelling, dynamic routing, they make it sound so easy, what could possibly go wrong!
Lower delivery rates, more losses, then of course more blaming workers for it all to distract from CPC management’s ineptitude.
Omg! Changes to Canada Post. Changes in your lives.. Hey change is constant for all of us. Learn to adapt and move ahead. Right now we come across as a bunch of wimps
So true. If only CUPW had accepted that we needed to change and compromised, the two sides could have reached an agreement. But our union always fights against every single change. Let’s move forward, this is 2025, not the 1970s.
And who exactly has done absolutely nothing to change this track theyve supposedly been on for the last 20 ish years? The only ones able to change said track are the ones who did nothing at all. Nice one cpc!
Huh?
Have another drink
You cannot negotiate with someone who isn’t willing to. CPC management wants to roll us all back to the 1930s.
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Feel free to change jobs if it helps you sleep at night otherwise quiet down.
Most important, and the first change, should be a change in CPC executives. They’ve failed for seven consecutive years. Definitely well past due for a change! Send them the message with a no vote.
How you like the inflation changing and going up all the time.Pretty hard to adapt to and move ahead when you don’t have a contract and credit is maxed out, bank says no more credit because you might not be working due to a labour dispute or worse cutbacks and layoffs.
Let’s go already. Vote Vote Vote. People are ready
Yes. I’m eagerly awaiting to vote no.
I need more incentive to vote NO. A free trip to Cuba from Cupw. To vote YES a free to Cuba from Cpc
How about a rad time in the back alleys of E. Hastings on the downtown east side of Vancouver?
I am sure the Slurpee drinking Leftists would love you to join them if you vote no.
Who ever needs to work long years please vote YES 👍
30 year employees won’t be a thing anymore, they will be burnt out in 10. SSD coming to a depot near you very soon. That combined with dynamic routing and load levelling will be a nightmare.
Do you think that by voting ‘no’, the changes you’re against magically won’t happen. All the things you mentioned are coming. SSD is already in depots all across Canada. Good carriers don’t habe a problem with it. The only thing a ‘no’ vote will do is cause a delay, possible lock-out and likely a worse contract.
I’ve already been dealing with ssd for the last year you pompous know it all. Just wait until it comes to you then lets see how fast you change your tune! Dont say you werent warned
Many carriers don’t have a problem with SSD. You can always transfer to an inside position if you can’t adapt.
Ok soup
Exactly!! I agree. If people believe that change won’t come because of a NO vote, you’re sadly mistaken. It’s going to happen regardless. Look back, no one wanted or liked PT, but it happened!! No one wanted or liked, CBM ‘s, but for the most part it happened. I don’t understand this talk about SSD, it’s already happening!! If you don’t think changes are coming, give your head a shake!! Let’s get this vote over with already!!! YES!!!
Relax, it’s fine. Been doing SSD for a long time and we actually prefer it.
Obviously cmb. Doesnt work so well door to door
You don’t have to worry about it because all delivery except business is going to be cmb so quit your crying
Yeah just trust us lol
So my job is going to burn me out in 10 years!!!!Wow think I will quit and become an air traffic controller.Your post says a lot about you
Yes vote will lock in compounding losses into future contracts. If you plan to be here any length of time, vote no to get a better contract, which will compound into future contracts. Take the one time losses now for continued gains in the future.
Can I decline the bribe I mean bonus of $ 1000 instead use it to pay fellow inmates to vote NO?
Vegas odds are 5 to 1 the Toronto Blue Jays will win the Stanley Cup before the Toronto Maple Leafs. As a side note,odds are even Cupw and Cpc both get 50% of the vote and then there’s a recount. My money is on the Jays.
People will adapt, good letter carriers (me) will get used to the system and finish in less than 8. It’s no different from PT and other changes in the past. Those who can’t adapt will whine and struggle, the majority will do it and go home earlier than 8.
The CUPW sheep will cry, but then when don’t they??
Exactly, that’s why this is so frustrating. It’s going to be fine. They don’t pile on work when you get back, you will still find efficiency and life will go on. The sky is always falling around the union water cooler.
Are you really sure about that? When you are younger you can make anything work. I don’t really care how good you are, wait till you hit 50 and everything hurts.
Oh come on, I’m over 50 and still delivering and it actually keeps me healthy and strong. Transfer to inside then.
So true!
Sure you feel fine, from behind your desk lol
You’re wrong about that. If ‘everything hurts’ that’s on you. I’m an LC who is well over 50 and can do a foot-walk no problem. This has always beem a physical job and it’s your responsibility to take care of your body, wear good shoes, do stretching and recovery etc. Maybe you just need to transfer to an inside position if it’s too hard outside?
Then you would be the first person in the company that is over 50, who has the body of a 25 year old. Congrats. Or maybe you aren’t who you say you are
My friend, when your depot has ssd implemented, your 50 year old body will feel it
WOW, you are encouraging employees to continue their bad work ethic.
Yep!
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You’re exactly right and thanks for your comment. I’ve been an LC for more than 30 years and was a Relief for about 20 years. I’ve done hundreds of routes in many different depots. Our job isn’t rocket-science. Hard working carriers with common sense will handle the changes with little problem. Those who whine and cry with every single change, will continue to whine and cry. I just hope we can get to the vote ASAP.
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Remember 1 thing this vote will change everything forward. Regardless or yes or no this will be the new normal pretty much ruling out the need to have the union. Its ok to play victim in front of government get loaned money and once u have loaned money ur sold literally. SO this is the end game. Lets just all see how long it can be pushed before privatization.
Nobody will privatize this company. It’s too geographically challenged and it comes with a terrible tenant living within its walls. Who would want that headache? A legacy of never being happy to be here, unable to get deals no matter what the situation is. More likely to have Puro become the parcel arm and then the rest can do the flyers and the mail, just not all of you. Unless you want to deliver heavy multi piece shipments to business and consumer. There are no team lifts after 50 lbs or whatever
WOW you’re actually saying that CP should forget the parcels!
You’re saying that Purolator should have that part of the business?
I hope everyone can now understand why management didn’t negotiate.
You still don’t understand my post you commented on. You just proved me right!
The longer you drag this out, the more it becomes a viable reality. Its not the same company but this one isn’t getting it done anymore. They could privatize the parcels with Purolator and start making money to cover the fixed costs of rural. This isn’t a strategy that anyone wanted, but the Titanic eventually sinks
The Titanic sank because of the captain’s bad judgment.
So privatized parcels to Purolator would make them more money to deliver parcels in the rural?
So Anonymous Just saying, we would only have fliers and whatever mail we get.
What’s next, change the Law, so they can demand a 3 days a week delivery in the 2028 or 2032 ? Then force a vote, like today?
I think our Titanic needs a new captain!
Or, you could have settled a year ago and we could have built something better. Now it’s all a ruin, based on a dysfunctional labour pool, 80% of you are great and happy for the opportunity as well. The toxic 20% do all the yapping
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We have a dysfunctional captain and officers.
lol, is CIRB stalling so we have to keep seeing these high school ‘fact sheets’? Hurry up already, I need to put in a NO vote and move on.
Let them do their thing. They had to hire a bunch of new supervisors to hand out motivational pamphlets.
Where are your fact sheets? You don’t have any? Just opinion pieces from a guy that should have retired 20 years ago and complaints about being forced to vote when the last time anyone voted was 18 months ago.
I think that the closed circuit TV in every installation is doing a good job of spreading the propaganda, don’t you think?
Do you even work? I’m not convinced at this point.
Do you ever think? I am not convinced at this point. Just sayin
There was no vote 18 months ago. Strike vote happened less than a year ago.
How are they calculating point of call coverage? Are they including flyers and who’s counting the flats and who’s keeping track of where the flats go, as opposed to where the letters are going. And then, as the routes change every morning, who’s moving all the mail around, to make sure everybody gets the proper mail to deliver…so many questions. It seems like such a bad idea.
Stop it! STOP IT!!!! Stop asking intelligent questions that we know the corp has no answer to!!!!
Three quarters of our new supervisors have about 1 – 3 years at cpc. Most were unable to complete the tasks of the job so they finally put them into supervisory positions just to get them out of the way. The leveling idea is just another stab in the dark. No thought put into it as to how it will ever get accomplished. Not only is it a bad idea, it is going to destroy the work environment if it ever gets implemented.