Why these are our best and final offers

July 18, 2025, 04:59 pm 407 comments

On May 28, 2025, Canada Post presented its best and final global offers to the Canadian Union of Postal Workers (CUPW) to reach negotiated agreements. These are the offers employees will be voting on. The full offer documents to both the Urban and RSMC bargaining units explain why these are our best and final offers:

“We want to be clear – this is as far as the Corporation can go. We have scrutinized every aspect of our operations and finances, stretched our position as far as responsibly possible, and made difficult decisions to table an offer that reflects the full extent of our financial capacity.”

The full offer documents also outline:

  • the enhancements, such as the signing bonus, that will “provide immediate, tangible support to employees.
  • the significant items the Corporation has withdrawn over the course of our negotiations with CUPW, including “no changes to post-retirement benefits” and “no move to a defined contribution pension for future employees (the defined benefit plan will remain).
  • that employees will keep the “gains they’ve secured over the years,” including job security, a defined benefit pension plan, comprehensive health and post-retirement benefits, and vacation and pre-retirement leave.
  • In return, Canada Post must implement operational changes that are essential to our long-term viability.

The offer concludes with: “This best and final offer represents a balanced, realistic, and forward-looking blueprint – one that protects employee gains while enabling the transformation necessary for Canada Post to survive and thrive in a new reality.

We still stand by every word we said. In fact, our business has declined since strike activity resumed on May 23, 2025.

External labour experts on the urgent need for change at Canada Post

In the past six months, two experienced and well-respected Canadian labour arbitration and mediation experts have spent considerable time studying Canada Post from different perspectives. Both reached similar conclusions on our financial situation and the urgent need for change:

  • William Kaplan, a highly respected expert in arbitration and mediation who is familiar with Canada Post and who led the recent Industrial Inquiry Commission (IIC) into Canada Post’s operations and finances.
  • Paula Knopf, a labour relations and dispute resolution arbitrator and mediator in the private and public sectors since 1980, who was appointed to facilitate discussions in the Corporation’s recent negotiations with the Canadian Postmasters and Assistants Association (CPAA). Those negotiations ended in a new collective agreement.

William Kaplan – IIC report, May 2025

The full IIC report, and a summary, can be found at infopost.ca/IIC. In his report, Kaplan detailed the challenges Canada Post is facing, and what needs to be done to “arrest and then reverse the growing financial losses.”

“Everyone who has looked at Canada Post and its operations readily concluded that Canada Post was headed for a fiscal cliff. That is no longer true. Canada Post is effectively insolvent. It has arrived at this destination.” p. 55

“There is no future for Canada Post if it cannot make use of part-time employees to meet its needs during the week and on weekends based on volume. …Introduction of a part-time weekend workforce, together with the flexibility to deploy part-timers during the week as needed, and based on volume, will not impact existing employees and their negotiated entitlements.” p. 86

“…there is an immediate need to reorient the core business to facilitate seven-day-a-week parcel delivery and to make best use of its employees.” p. 70

“The world has changed, and both parties (Canada Post and CUPW) must evolve and adapt. Tinkering with the status quo is not an option. … The public service CUPW’s members proudly deliver is on the brink of collapse.” pp. 89-91

Paula Knopf – CPAA Final Award, June 2025

Working through a challenging situation with Knopf’s assistance as mediator, Canada Post and the CPAA successfully negotiated a new collective agreement in June 2025.

In her final award dated June 13, 2025, which formalized the parties’ agreement, Knopf noted that the realities of Canada Post’s financial situation, as detailed in Kaplan’s IIC report, “had an impact on the collective bargaining between Canada Post and the CPAA.”

“In Commissioner William Kaplan’s Industrial Inquiry Report, released on May 15, 2025, he addressed, inter alia, the realities of the financial situation Canada Post is facing. His stark conclusions included the following statement:

“Canada Post is facing an existential crisis: It is effectively insolvent, or bankrupt. Without thoughtful, measured, staged, but immediate changes, its fiscal situation will continue to deteriorate.”

A reasonable, stable path forward

While our deteriorating financial situation over the years has been well-documented, the resumption of strike activities on May 23, 2025, has had a further negative impact.

In June, Canada Post’s losses from operations increased to approximately $10 million a day as customers moved their shipments to other delivery companies that can provide certainty.

The status quo is unsustainable.

We remain hopeful our employees will see these best and final offers as a reasonable step toward providing certainty and stability for the road ahead.

If employees vote to accept them, these offers will become new four-year collective agreements, effective immediately and in place until January 31, 2028.

In the event the vote ends without a resolution to the current round of negotiations, no one can predict what may happen beyond continued uncertainty.

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  • Voted no obviously

    Celebrating new supervisors with pastries and coffee one week, facing company wide uncertainty the next week. 😂failure of leadership.

  • The wait is finally over, and I’ve accepted the offer.

  • Negotiate with my negotiating team not with me I hope the membership rejects the offer

  • Media manipulator

    We made the news. Apparently 53000 used to 55000 Canada Post workers are voting on a offer this week. What happened to those 2000 workers? Or is it media can’t count up to 55000.

    • Nah that would be CUPW fudging numbers like they do with their voting 🗳

    • I’d guess they are temporary employees that think they’re not eligible to vote. I remember temporary employees thinking they weren’t able to vote for/against a strike and not voting….then que surprise! 30% of “eligible” employees voted to strike and messed up work for 100% of employees.

  • Santa votes to lose weight

    Hey kids just 5 months away from Christmas. Maybe we should start our shopping now just in case we decide to have a strike like last year. And we all know how well that worked out

  • I don’t care to accept I don’t care to reject. I just want to rock n roll all night and party everyday.

  • Love it. In a world that’s seems more insane with each passing day and Canada Post future in shambles we need laughter like that. Don’t ever stop.

  • Sam sacarasm is I'm the house

    Now that I’m reflecting on my decision to accept the reject option,can I go back and change my decision so it truly reflects my position of rejecting the acceptance.

  • Accept Reject. I got a 50 % chance to get it right. Better odds then the lottery.

  • I really really really hope accept offer wins because that 6% raise, really 1% got 5% back I’n February,I can treat my family to McDonald’s, most likely the kids meal. If reject wins no 1% raise so I can treat my family to McDonald’s most likely the kids meal.

  • Again therapy did not help

    Obviously from the comments I’ve read and workers I’ve talked to ,there is no division whatsoever. We are standing as one for each other. Depending on your intellectual depth you may find this somewhat sarcastic or just someone who has way too much time on their hands.

  • Anybody who's not named Anomymos

    Voting ends Friday Aug 1. Monday Aug 4 is a Civic holiday. Depending on thr results it will be a long wknd for some and a real looooong wknd for others. I’m voting for more long wknds

  • This was a smoke a joint co production between cpc and cupw

    Early returns have if as follows ,
    Accept offer. 12%
    Reject offer. 12%
    Person who is making up this comment needs to get a life ..100%

  • I accept to reject the offer.

  • It was so easy to Vote I Accept, only took 10 seconds and we might get another 10 years at CPC.
    Vote Do Not Accept and CPC ends in 10 days .
    So simple

  • I cannot take overtime but a part timelr can take an extension. This is an attack on the full timers by the union..

  • I cannot take overtime but a part timelr can take an extension. This is an attack on the full timers by the union..

  • All these Canada Post Executives saying they voted yes, cracks me up lol No Postal Worker would ever vote yes to this garbage.

  • The only reason the CEO still has a job at Canada Post, after running the corporation into the ground, is because hes been doing EXACTLY what the government wants him to do, so they can get the publics support, to privatize it. This was done on purpose.
    But why should the workers pay the price for an intentional tank job.
    VOTE WITH A STRONG, INTENTIONAL NO!!!!

    • Yes sir/madam. Let’s shine a nice bright media scrutiny filled disinfecting light on this mockery of a sham lack of negotiation final offer submitted by a bunch of mickey mouse executive puppets trying to shaft working Canadians while lining their own pockets. Shame on all of them.

      • No Shame on CUPW not getting with the times and keeping this charade going with its ridiculous demands.Shame on CPC for not nipping it in the bud way before this.

  • forget about CLUSTER’s last stand

    this is CUPW’s last stand
    this is CPC Management’s mess, not the workers.. vote no

    vote NO!

  • Why these are our best and final offers

    WHAT? CPC going to declare bankruptcy?

  • VOTE…No

    this is a classic case of corporate bullying
    blame the employee for management’s inability to manage,
    look at the damagement CPC management has caused

    sad sad sad

  • ARTICLE 48

    WORK PATTERNS – LETTER
    CARRIERS

    The parties agree that the
    following will form work patterns for letter
    carriers:

    *(a) All letter carriers
    assignments are to have
    official starting times and
    are based on the content
    of their assignments.

    the rest of the article Is deleted , meaning

    ALL THIS IS DELETED

    Starting Time
    Starting times for all full and part-time routes
    operating from various postal installations
    may vary, but the starting time must be the
    same for all routes of the same type operating
    from the same postal installation.

    When determining hours of duty performed by
    letter carriers and eligibility for overtime
    payment, official starting times are used
    unless recorded arrival times are later than
    the official starting times.
    Starting times are based on:

    normal volume of mail and the time required to prepare it for delivery,
    permitting the letter carrier to depart at a time acceptable to service
    requirements; and availability of transportation for the
    employee to travel to his or her place of
    work; and availability of transportation at his or
    her normal departure time.

    The following types of routes are suggested
    for use when determining official starting time
    based on preparatory requirements:

    Residential Single Dwelling (Res. S.D.)
    Residential High-Rise area (Res. H.R.)
    Residential Combination (Res. Comb.)
    Residential Business (Res. Bus.)
    Business: Shopping complexes/office towers

  • I hope CUPW will put a voting setup like this one from the CIRB, it’s easy, its convenient, AND there would probably be a greater voter turnout and participation

  • Out of work postie

    I’m starting my own delivery company can someone tell me what to do can’t decide if I should pay delivery person $20 or $60 if pay $20 hour making money and able to expand and hire another driver if I pay $60 hour I losing money and might have to shut down what should I do

  • TO BE DELETED Article 15:14 GONE NO MORE LIST

    15.14
    where the employee is on rotation day off;
    where an employee has been assigned
    overtime in an ascending order on a list in
    accordance with clause 15.14. Compulsory Overtime

    In the event that the Corporation is unable to
    obtain sufficient employees to work overtime by following the
    system of equal opportunity in descending order, then the
    Corporation shall, in accordance with the system of equal
    opportunity, assign the required number of employees to
    work overtime in an ascending order from the appropriate
    list.

    Where standards of service and plant capacity permit,
    the Corporation will take reasonable measures to ensure
    that assignments to work overtime in ascending order of the
    appropriate list will be minimized.

  • ARTICLE 15
    ARTICLE 15
    OVERTIME
    15.08

    (new)
    Assignment of Overtime
    for Group 2
    Insofar as practicable,
    overtime on an employee’s route or
    assignment will be performed by the
    employee assigned to that particular
    route or assignment.

    (new1)
    Notwithstanding the
    above, before resorting to overtime,
    the Corporation shall assign or offer
    the work based on seniority in the
    following order:

    (new2) Assign the work at
    straight time to available
    relief employees;

    (new3) Assign the work at
    straight time to available
    part-time flex
    employees, up to twenty
    (20) hours per week;

    (new4) Offer the work at straight
    time to part-time letter
    carriers on extension;

    (new5) Assign the work at
    straight time to part-time
    flex employees, up to
    thirty (30) hours per
    week, and

    (new6) Offer the work at straight
    time to part-time flex
    employees, up to forty
    (40) hours per week.

  • ARTICLE 13

    STAFFING OF VACANT
    ASSIGNMENTS AND POSITIONS

    activities to be
    performed within a
    fixed schedule.

    (new1) Notwithstanding
    paragraph 13.02(b), the
    Corporation may:

    (new2) reallocate and
    assign any collection
    and delivery
    activities, at straight
    time, to Group 2
    employees who have
    unused scheduled
    hours.

    Pg 202

    https://www.canadapost-postescanada.ca/cpc/doc/en/news-and-media/cpc-global-offer-urban-bargaining-unit.pdf

  • Offer ACCEPTED!!

  • Rum Punch hold the punch

    Soon as the results are tallied I booking my trip to Cuba with NEB.Whos with me ?

  • no!!! pleaser i meant vote NOOO. i made the mistake. no vote good for me.

  • Finally got to vote! I rejected the crappy CPC final offer.

    • Well at least its nice weather to a.)stand outside locked out by CPC or b.)stand in the unemployment line along with your CUPW comrades!

  • APPENDIX (NEW4)
    ANNEXE (NOUVEAU4)
    PART-TIME FLEX EMPLOYEES

    installations both ways,
    unless the part-time flex
    employee refuses return
    transportation.
    The travelling time between
    postal installations is
    deemed to be time worked
    for pay purposes.

    DELETION OF PART-TIME
    FLEX POSITIONS (a)
    If a part-time flex position is
    no longer required, it may
    be deleted. If an employee
    must be displaced as a
    result, it shall be the most
    junior employee in the
    classification, within the
    unit.

  • Unemployed standup comedian

    I hope this platform never comes down,the humor is better then standup comedians.

  • I’m holding off on voting until my Leafs win t he Stanley Cup.

  • Explain to me. Is it 6% raise first year or 1%. Because 6% first year of contract was Jan 31 2024 to Jan 31 2025. Cause we got 5% raise around Feb in 2025 which is second year of contract. So if I vote yes are we getting 1% raise, ? 6%minus 5% = 1%

    • That is correct.

    • Yes, you got the 5 already so they retro the 1 remaining

    • It is a 6% raise from Jan 31, 2024 to Jan 30, 2025. 5% was already paid out, as per Canada Post’s offer for the 1st year, when CIRB, ordered employees back to work on Dec 17th. CPC’s final offer of 6% for the 1st year results in an additional 1% on top of the 5% that was already paid. So if the final offer is accepted, we are owed another 1% from Jan 31, 2024 to Jan 30, 2025 and then 3% for 2025, 2% for 2026 and 2% for 2027. Hope this helps.

  • ARTICLE 17
    ARTICLE 17
    WORK ON A DAY OF REST, CALL
    BACK AND UNCOVERED LETTER
    CARRIER WALKS OR MAIL SERVICE
    COURIER ASSIGNMENTS

    (new 3) part-time letter
    carrier in the
    component;

    (new 4) part-time flex
    employees in
    the
    component;
    and

    (new 5) part-time mail
    service courier
    in the
    component.

    (new 6) The part-time absence
    resulting from the
    application of sub
    paragraph 17.06

    (new 2),
    if any, will be bid by
    seniority among
    employees in the same
    classification and
    component as the
    resulting absence.

  • Since last week I’ve not changed my mind. I still voting for a 5 dollar walmart card.

  • Is other an option

    I got a number oh boy. However I asked for the winning lottery numbers not the pin number. Ok I’ll try to vote YES or NO if my indecivesiveness dont get in the way of not knowing who to vote for

  • Voted yes. Glad I finally got a chance to have a say in my own employment compensation. What a concept! Going forward, how about this. CUPW, learn some lessons from past failures. The same playbook, same strategies, same rhetoric, same outcomes. A yes vote should tell you you’re out of touch with the majority of the members that pay for your existence. “You are the union”, correct?
    And CP, quit wasting months “negotiating” and actually offer a realistic contract BEFORE the current contract expires. This company is never proactive with anything. My depot has seen significant decreases in positions over the last 15 yrs. Clerk positions drastically cut. Routes that are at least 35% longer. We’ve made our cuts! But somehow we have 2 more supervisors to sign out people’s keys. We can’t be doing this song and dance every few yrs. It’s embarrassing. On both ends. Smarten up.

    • This is why cupw is losing their minds and there propaganda machine is in over drive they are fighting for there survival here not ours

      • That’s where you went off the rails. Voting yes accelerates your demise. Hopefully those of us who actually understand what’s stake here outnumber the simpletons voting yes

    • Voted NO. For alot of reasons that you just stated CPC is losing money. They have cut the workforce constantly for the last decade and increased management positions. They have made major investments and called them losses. If this goes through your future for the next decade will be hell. Most of you will not stay but the ones that do will eventually have to struggle to regain everything you lost from this travesty. It might take another decade. I will be retired in a few months but I could not in good conscience vote to accept this garbage contract and leave my fellow brothers and sisters to suffer. To late to save you Mr. Fed up.
      Sometimes you have to stand up for your rights even though it is uncomfortable to do so.

      Vote NO

      • I’m so glad you voted NO and all for the right reasons!

        Enjoy retirement

      • Mr fed up doesn’t get it. Tell me how blowing all that money on building albert jackson plant only to have it idling at maybe 30 % capacity since it opened is any type of wise investment (aka blowing wads of money then voting yourself a bonus to all execs as a reward) .. Mr fed up we are fed up with you and your crooked no clue what theyre doing overlords

  • When NO wins,you’re gonna need the kleenex boxes and pay for it through your pay.

    • If yes wins, better stock up on Advil because your legs are gonna be tired after they add a few hundred calls to your route

  • When YES wins the vote, I will send a box of kleenex to all the people who voted NO to wipe away the tears. Lol. Then I’ll send the bill to NEB for the cost of all the kleenex boxes . More lol

    • The soups are making a last minute rally I see to try and sway the vote. Good luck with that.
      NO again

  • Big yes vote from me

  • Try to skim over this document before voting , like it says BOLD letters me change and Asterisks mean deletion .. Skim over it and see what your voting on , Its long long long PDF 507 pages , and this Is from CPC not CUPW , but it Is there final offer

    https://www.canadapost-postescanada.ca/cpc/doc/en/news-and-media/cpc-global-offer-urban-bargaining-unit.pdf

    Final Offer Reading Guide – Urban
    This guide will help you understand the final offer from Canada Post, dated May 28, 2025, and how to read the proposed changes.

    Changes to the collective agreement
    The only changes to the collective agreement that expired on January 31, 2024, are those reflected in the contractual language (clauses, appendices, side letters, and agreements) contained in Canada Post’s final offer of May 28, 2025. These changes will be incorporated into the new collective agreement.

    All other provisions that have not been changed or deleted will be automatically renewed and
    carried over into the new collective agreement. The current collective agreement is accessible on Intrapost.

    How to read the changes in the Final Offer
    When reviewing the final offer documents, the following formatting rules were generally used and will help you understand what is new or removed:

    Bolded text = new wording that is being added to the existing text (except titles)
    Asterisks* = words or sections that are being removed from the existing text
    “Deleted” = An entire clause, paragraph, or appendix is being completely removed.

    Understanding some of the elements of the Final Offer
    Memorandum of Agreement (MOA)
    MOAs are special agreements between the parties that don’t necessarily go in the collective
    agreement itself.

    For example, some of Canada Post’s proposals are conditional on the resolution of grievances. If
    the final offer is accepted, the MOA outlines which grievances will be resolved as a result.
    Side Letters

    Side letters are documents that offer additional context or clarification about certain proposals.
    While they do not form part of the collective agreement, they may include:
     Guarantees or protections,
     Clarifications of specific wording used in the agreement, or
     Guidance on how certain terms should be interpreted, based on the parties’ shared
    intentions.

    These documents help ensure that both parties have a common understanding of how the
    collective agreement should be applied.

    Agreements in Principle
    These are early agreements where both parties have a shared understanding, but they will only
    take effect if there is agreement on the full offer

    Housekeeping language
    These are minor edits to fix typos, grammar mistakes, or punctuation – and to make the language
    more consistent across the collective agreement. These changes are purely administrative and do
    not change the meaning or how the agreement is to be interpreted and applied.

  • A No vote is actually a Yes vote to keep CUPW execs in power. Voting No is not for the employee.

    A Yes vote is a No vote to keep CUPW in power. Voting Yes keeps the employee working.

    CUPW is working around the clock delivering propaganda . Don’t be fooled it is self serving to keep themselves in power. A Yes vote publically tells they union they are not needed. CUPW only cares because THERE jobs are in jeopardy. They do not care about us.

    • This vote will have no effect on CUPW executives. The vote is only about CPC’s final offer. And CPC management has been going full time, for the first time ever, distributing their propaganda. If only management would work this hard at managing, we wouldn’t be in our current financial situation we are in now.

    • This message is brought to you by CPC

  • Fantastic I have just voted. Easiest vote I have ever done in my life!!! Contract is OK but I look at it as voting against CUPW which is fantasticccc!!!!!!! Go YESSSSS vote.

  • Grade 12 graduate

    Looking at the volumes on our walks and in the plant, I would be shocked if the vote was not at least 75 percent yes. I like being able to buy groceries and taking care of my family

  • I’ve voted to ACCEPT the offer. Hopefully most will do the same, so the company can start making meaningful changes to compete and survive.

    • Accepting the final offer will do none of that. It will burden you with a crappy contract and signal CPC’s executives they may carry on their losing ways, at your expense.

  • Got my pin number and voted. I won’t divulge my vote all I can say is that those who voted YES will love me and those who voted NO will hate me. But I can’t say anything else

  • Easiest the simplest vote I ever had to make since joining Canada Post.
    Took 30 seconds and didn’t have to listen to CUPW whine on and on about how abused we supposedly are.

    Hopefully this is the future!

    YES!!!

  • YES - YOUR VOTE IS YOUR VOICE

    I have to say, that at this point, this vote became next in importance to me after the federal elections vote. Cheers !!!

  • Yes, yes, yes!!!

  • Due to CUPW’s years of absolute incompetence, I am sadly forced to vote “yes”!

  • Merry Christmas

    Christmas in July. I don’t have to wait til December to celebrate. I get to vote. How the vote got here I don’t care,I finally can vote on an offer . This is a great present.

  • I’ll take a 33% raise just like the execs. Thanks

  • I can’t wait until 7 am tomorrow morning so I can forced to have vote Noooooooo!

  • postalworkerrebellion

    Voting yes is a path forward. Voting no just means more of thr same

    • The path forward is leading to a cliff

      • postalworkerrebellion

        The cliff when we vote no because you can’t accept that the world is changing

        • Change is not always for the better. That definitely applies here. The changes sorely needed which brought us here in the first place (entire upper management removal and being investigated) are not being addressed or even mentioned. However now the entire employee work force is expected to make ongoing and likely future concessions while the corporation fat cats keep getting richer? Not a chance. For such a strong sounding name you are weak. What are you rebelling against exactly other than just stirring the pot?

          • postalworkerrebellion

            Keeping out jobs that is the most important thing then working about weekend delivery

      • Better later than sooner.

      • The company is teetering on the edge of the cliff…by voting NO youre just rushing it along.Anyone who votes no really doesn’t care if they have a job i guess

        • Anyone voting no is looking out for our own best interests and not bowing down to your demigods as you do in spineless fashion

  • Remember the 2 billion dollar investment into sequencing? That was when this company took a complete U turn. The president at the time made the decision and left the corporation shortly after only to move overseas and disassemble the
    UKs postal system. Then they wanted to go all CMBs because???? Oh yeah, more money for the rich. The president of CPC makes more than the Prime Minister of Canada. If there was only a way he could get more. I know, let’s bleed the people that are already struggling to pay their hydro bill every month.

    • The mayor of your city probably makes more than the PM. It has no relevance to Canada Post

  • Here is my statement and why im voting yes:
    Fellow members,
    A “no” vote today isn’t just a simple rejection of this proposal—it unleashes a wave of uncertainty that sweeps across every one of us. Without a ratified agreement, there’s no guarantee we’ll see improved wages, enhanced benefits, or job protections. In fact, management could come back with an even tougher offer down the road, one that strips away the modest gains we’ve fought so hard to secure.
    What keeps me up at night is the realization that we may be battling for the future of employees who might never get to call Canada Post home. Every day of stalled negotiations brings us closer to financial instability for the Crown corporation. If Canada Post falters or folds, none of our lofty demands or principled stands will matter—there won’t be a Canada Post to negotiate with.
    Some will argue the union has its own shortcomings, and they’re right. The biggest source of pushback stems from a perception that union leadership refused to entertain even one of the operational changes Canada Post needs to modernize and grow. That hardline stance may feel principled, but in the long run it threatens our jobs and bargaining power.
    At the same time, many members sit on the sidelines. They’re disengaged, disillusioned by internal politics, or simply exhausted by the process. I get it. But right now, we can’t afford apathy. This vote isn’t about internal squabbles—it’s about safeguarding our livelihoods and the viability of an institution that employs thousands.
    Here’s what a “yes” vote actually brings to the table:
    – Stability for today and tomorrow: We lock in improvements now rather than gamble on a better deal that may never materialize.
    – Protection of existing benefits: Pensions, health care, and sick leave enhancements are preserved under the current offer.
    – A stronger Canada Post: By agreeing to reasonable operational changes, we enable the company to compete, invest in new technology, and stay solvent.
    – Future bargaining power: A stable, thriving Canada Post in 2028 means we negotiate from a position of strength—not desperation.
    – Unity of purpose: Demonstrating that we can compromise for the greater good strengthens solidarity among all members.
    I know there are voices demanding a harder line. I respect that passion. But when push comes to shove, I’d rather guarantee our jobs today than risk losing everything for an ideal that may never arrive. We owe it to new hires, to our families, and to ourselves to come back stronger, united, and ready for the challenges ahead.
    Please cast your vote thoughtfully. A “yes” secures the future of our work and empowers us to rebuild Canada Post into the robust, competitive institution we all want it to be.
    God bless—and thank you for standing with me in this crucial moment.

    • Vote NO.

    • Your yes vote will do the opposite of what you profess. It will destabilize the workforce for a generation. Unions stick together. Close your eyes and pray for a fruitful future or join hands with your brothers and sisters to sustain what we have built over decades of struggling.
      A stronger NO vote

      • There will be nothing sustained if you vote no. Do you think there is some magical money tree somewhere that CPC can pull from to meet the ridiculous union demands? You’ll be joining hands with people at the unemployment office.

      • A YES will destabilize the work force for a generation? Again more extreme baseless fear mongering nonsense.

        • Load leveling?? There will be fist fights over this plan. LCs will be living in a world of spite. Imagine if you will, coming into work every day and having to do your route and someone elses too. I would personally be afraid to call in sick knowing that my co workers would be glaring at me when I return to work but this is the heaven CPC is building for you. Nothing baseless about human nature. Enjoy your new world order.

      • It doesn’t look like any of the unions across canada are reaching out to cup w to support us… For years the union touted negotiated settlement then they were desperate for arbitration. An arbitrated settlement is not a negotiated settlement…Final offer means no more negotiations…

    • This is the most knowledgeable and thought out comment that has been posted on this site and I thank you for it.

    • Well said

    • Well said, 👏👏👏.

    • Thank you for this! One of the most thought out and truthful comments on here!

    • Anju,
      you last post literally said and I quote ” canda poost don’t play me round”.

      You have come a long way with your English and your expressionism since yesterday at 3:25. Almost as if you are management pretending to be foreign so as to get the vote from our foreign workforce. No way CPC would stoop to such tactics. ….Right??.. Right????
      The God bless part made me feel a little sorry for you… and a little nauseous.

      • I dunno about the other comment but I know she is president of her local. I am just surprised she has the guts to openly speak her mind compared to the script every other union president is pushing.

    • Wow this is fantastic to hear a local president saying what everyone is thinking. kudos to you sister. Solidarity.

    • Bravo Anju the Vancouver local is so lucky to have you. I wish other president’s would be this honest.

      • No we’re not.
        She should step down.
        She is just protecting her own butt.

        • Why? Because you don’t agree with her position? Everyone should just fall in line, even if they don’t agree with their “leaders?”

          Our situation is bleak; unfortunately, the conspiracy theorists think it’s all lies, even after having to borrow $1.3 billion to stay afloat. Maybe that loan was a lie, too?

          General Motors employees recently had a 90% strike mandate; it was the UNION who told the employees that this isn’t the time to go on strike with all the uncertainty surrounding trade with the US. Sadly CUPW can’t read the writing on the wall and will continue to fight for their social justice projects leaving the employees to fend for themselves.

        • NO. She shouldn’t step down.
          We have elections. The voting members will decide!

        • She is entitled to her opinion just like you are entitled to yours! We all need more Anjus in our plants!

    • A yes secures a pris0n sentence. Vote NO.

    • Exactly!

    • This message is brought to you by your CPC negotiating committee

    • Still voting no

    • Good to be informed

      Well said Anju.

    • Agreed, I’m voting YES

    • Please make her stop🥴

  • Since cupw caused all of this I and most that I know will be voting yes.

    • Ya ok cupw caused this. With your way of thinking this country is heading in a bad way

    • All caused by stubborn and incompetent CPC management. I’m voting no.

      • All caused by workers who feel it’s their right to abuse the system. Joy ride is coming to an end finally

  • Live,love,laugh no matter the result of the vote. We only get one chance at life….ONE! So enjoy

  • Therapy is not helpful ,I think

    This may or may not be the last comment I make before voting YES or NO. Being indecisive allows me to not confirm or deny anything I do or not do in life. In conclusion ,I will decide on my own without pressure from Cupw ,but I’m not sure.

  • Voting yes all the way to the bank

  • Voting yes and don’t worry there will be cuts on both sides of the fence. Less workers means less management. Yes yes yes yes yes
    CUPW you failed once again, your time is up

    • Cuts need to start at the top, with the board of directors that are responsible for the direction of the corporation and the 7 consecutive years of losses. Until it rolls down from the top, I’m voting no.

  • Lazy crazy hazy p04

    I m willing to go from full-time back to part-time immediately but still get paid for fulltime hours with benefits. Let me know how else I can help Cpc save money. Thank You

    • It would really help if we axed half of CPC management. They can go from no time to full time. So many of them standing around in groups yaking about their last vacation.

  • You hate where you work and the people and life. Timmy’s wants you. Free uniforms ,above minimum wage with good benefits. Free calories infested food ,various days/hours. Apply now. Only requirement you actually have to work. Ug!

  • We need a mandate review but it’s useless if they don’t fix the real problem, top heavy management/supervision that’s dragging the entire system down. Vote NO.

  • I need a vacation

    I’ll vote YES if Cpc pays for my vacation to the grocery store. I’ll vote NO if Cupw pays for my vacation to the grocery store.

    • CUPW not even paying your wages, CPC pays you wages, benefits, vacation.. Clearly it’s a Yes. CUPW steals from our pockets to go on vacations and has failed another negotiation like they have the last 60 years.. We’re Voting YES

  • Well cupw, it’s time to wave the white flag and tell members to vote yes.Read the news articles and watch the interviews with union reps then check out the comment sections. The public has absolutely no use for us, the majority hope Canada Post closes its doors or privatizes. Even other unions across Canada abandoned us, there has been minimal vocal support and zero physical support. No other union has taken any action because of all the job cuts coming, but there’s cupw sitting alone on the sidelines still thinking that they’re relevant.

    • So you’re listening to trolls on the internet rather than the people we actually serve day in and day out?? I work in downtown Toronto. I have over 1500 POC. I talk to numerous people each and every day. I have yet to have one person say anything to the effect of “Canada Post needs to privatize” or “There’s no need for letter carriers”. I always hear, and I mean always, that they’re pulling for me, we should be be paid well because we work hard, that they’d have no idea what they’d do if we didn’t deliver anymore, “Thank You!”, etc. Those comments you read, just like many of the ones here, do not even come close to actual public feelings for us.

      • People are just being respectful. Do you really believe everyone you talked to was being totally honest? They just don’t want confrontation.

      • Opposite in my area. Christmas being used as negotiating leverage seemed to be the last straw. That was a slap in the face of every Canadian, and for what? Janitors and snow removal? I can’t blame them, just continue to do my duties the best I can.

    • I respect postal workers

      Speak for yourself.
      Everyone I know respects our postal system.
      You don’t speak for the rest of us Canadians.
      Protect our national postal system.

  • How many other corporations or companies offer their employees 6 weeks of preretirement?…

  • Peace ✌️ brothers and sisters! We find out our fate soon. Which ever way this vote goes… wishing everyone the best 💖

  • It’s obvious beyond the shadow of a doubt that in no way shape or form has Cupw tried to persuade the members to vote NO.

  • Ineffective management and an excessive number of supervisory staff.

  • I’m voting to win the lottery. Then go to Cuba with all the Cupw executives.

  • Would really love to know how many emails were updated and verified.

  • What's in a name

    No matter the outcome of the vote,I’m changing my name optional to anomymos.

  • How is it other countries postal systems are not in disarray like Canada Post,? Why is Canada Post so good at screwing things up of course with help from Cupw?

    • Many are privatized entities which don’t have the dead weight of ‘no’. Employees need to be efficient and put in proper effort to receive remuneration or they don’t retain the privilege for long.

    • Most countries have a postal system in disarray.

  • Bleep Bleep Bleep

    Somebody who been through this since the 1980s told me, If you vote YES you’ll get bleep really hard. If you vote NO you’ll get bleep that’s it. Let’s see what am I in the mood for, YES get bleep really hard or NO just get bleep.Hum? tough one.

  • Food deliveries,cleaners,janitors, people of ill repute ,druggies and of course future workers,thatc Cupw agenda.
    Lets see did Cupw forget anybody…..ah ….ahh..hum..nope I can’t think of anybody they forgot. Have a nice day. ……..oh yea the current members who pay dues so they can travel and party. That’s why I’m voting NO because Cupw is doing all this for us.

  • carl lubinskiii

    Day of Reccckoning has come cupw sheep.

    • Does it matter which union represents us?
      Even if we got rid of CUPW and brought in a different union, the same people who destroyed our negotiations with CPC would still end up in charge with representing us on our workers rights.
      It’s not CUPW as a union is the problem, it’s the people in charge running the union that are the problem.
      It’s counterintuitive to think that getting rid of our weak union leadership will improve our already weak bargaining position. The people currently running our union will always manage to weasel their way into positions of power for their own personal gain.
      Whether it be Teamsters, Unifor, or CUPE these people will always manage to be in positions of influence.
      Instead of complaining about CUPW, we should all try showing up to general membership meetings and question everything we find contentious that union executives do. By doing that, we take back our union.

      • If only life was that simple.
        Look into what it takes to become a delegate and the process involved in electing the Executive Board Members.

  • Canada Post pays me. Yes to 1000 and a new contract that brings needed changes

  • canda poost don’t play me round

  • Yes vote or Jaws is coming

    Lockout……………Lockout……….Lockout…..Lockout…Lockout..Lockout.Lockout.Lockout.Lockout

  • What does the NO vote really think will be accomplished here? There will be no negotiations after this. Imminent lock-out. Regardless of how we got here, the reality is change will happen. The NO vote will just mean the layoffs and structural changes will come much sooner. The YES vote will provide stability for a couple of years, at least. The business will return and we can regroup. CUPW has no cards to play anymore. We already know they are delusional to think voting No means going back to the table after 19 months of nothing done at said table.

  • Canada Post should hire retired former employees as casual workers. Many would come back. It used to be like this.

    • Good to be informed

      Great idea. Let’s bring this back. Could do PT Flex.

    • Agree 💯

    • No, they’re retired for a reason and will not be efficient. We need change and old workers will not bring change.. Get real.. People looking for jobs and we’re going to bring the same ones back, I’m voting NO to that..

      • Im retiring this year and wouldn’t go back as a casual if they paid me double…I dont need the headache and I agree give the job to new folks and let them have the headache! Sorry

  • YES - YOUR VOTE IS YOUR VOICE

    Thinking that the union by a month of general strike *forced* the CP to propose this *bad* final offer that it results in losing the trust of its workers, describes the self-deceptive confusion if not deliberate mis-interpretation of happening events. Continue applying the same logic approach and propose CUPW to carry on let’s say a six (6) month general strike without salary in order to hypothetically *force* a *better* final offer, and you’ll see how much “trust” will be left for the union this time.

    But you also remember why the negotiations became difficult and stuck from the start with no deal reached, and that for many, many months, instead of discussing pertinent things like salaries, the union pushed the non-related *janitors* +etc. topics. When the real cause of predicament in negotiations at that point was publicly exposed, the union faced the reality of a lost momentum in bargaining. After which they proceeded to a general strike. But the damage was done, and we bear the consequences. Demasked using of its members in its own agendas play and the poor negotiation lead to lost trust in the union.

    • Go to union general membership meetings and present your discord with the unions actions.
      They can try bullying you all they want, but if enough people like you show up to meeting expressing your arguments against them, the better chance you can show others how unsuitable these union executives are in positions of leadership. Hence, they lose their positions the next election they try to run.

      • People won’t attend except for the koolaid cult members and they run off anyone who thinks differently. Most locals cheat during election anyways….

      • Really? Ive seen screaming matches if a person goes against them, then they get the boot 👢

  • Vote No and watch it happen immediately.

  • Well, maybe if management wasn’t actively canvassing business clients to move to Purolator, volumes wouldn’t be down. This is a very clear union busting tactic.

    • Nobody has to canvas people to move, they all did that on their own. Those people are paid for selling by the way, which means that telling customers to leave means they don’t get paid. They also don’t care about your union so the thought they are trying to bust it is laughable.

  • The union cannot protect all of its members.. There will be job losses with a full postal review.And I do believe the job losses will be on both sides of the fence.. Canada post is going nowhere? It needs to restructure itself and find new avenues, a revenues. It doesn’t take 55000 postal workers to do what we have left. If the business grows, maybe the membership will grow. But as for now, let’s live to fight another day. Gambling and voting, no end and not knowing what comes next.
    Is not reasonable?I will be voting yes

    • I agree!!

    • No it is not reasonable and No is the only vote against these lying tyrants

      • How is Canada Post lying?
        Mail and parcels are down.
        How can we prevent ourselves from losing our jobs if Canada Post doesn’t extend to weekend deliveries and reduce overtime?
        Most of us come back early after 4 – 6 hours on straight time.
        I don’t think it’s unreasonable to expect us to work 7 hours and take a total of 1 hour in breaks.
        However, seeing how we can’t take the OT, I think it really gives the corporation more of a reason to justify SSD and Dynamic Routing.
        Our union executives made the biggest mistake by giving CPC the advantage.
        Not only that it has left customers unable to receive their packages on time. Hence, another loss if Canada Post has to pay them pack for late delivery.
        Well played CUPW NEB.

        • Stupid idea on OT ban.
          CUPW played into the corporation’s hands. Say goodbye to OT and hello to dynamic routing.
          No more going home early.
          Thanks CUPW for ruining collective bargaining and negotiations.
          You can’t force the CPC to negotiate since you keeping losing by showing all your cards.
          Whether we vote yes or no, postal workers still lose thanks to horrible gambles by CUPW negotiators and the NEB.
          It’s a no win situation.
          Still we should just vote to save face. If everyone votes it will show that as postal workers we care about our jobs and we can get closer to getting a deal.

      • You like the rest of CUPW are delusional. Without change the company will Privatize, and people like you are the reason companies shut down and everyone loses their job. We’re voting YES and don’t care what you think.. Wake up and if you don’t like your job go find another. Arbitration has always been worse and never better, the union ha caused this mess because if we saw all the offers they refused to show us we would have a better offer.. Go ask CUPW to create a forum for its members to talk and post comments, instead of coming here and you complaining..

  • CUPW keeps saying to vote no!! Where are any of your intelligence ideas???? That’s right they have none. A good union gets deals done. Wake up kool aid drinking people we will be locked out and layoffs will start immediately. And we will have no protection from this happening. Time for change. Yes all the way!!

    • I agree!! Also, cupw is lying to members saying if the NO vote wins they’ll go back to bargaining. Why are they lying? CPC is done, last offer. If the no vote wins, we’ll either get locked out, people will be layed off or it’ll go to arbitration and we ( the members) lose. I vote YES!!!

    • This message is brought to you by your CPC bargaining committee

    • I agree,yes all the way.

    • Hey ryan your opinion is not the only one and yes is the wrong one

    • Wake up brainwashed people. A yes vote is akin to death by a thousand cuts. The Kool aid shtick is getting old. You need to wake up and look around at the assault cpc is foaming at the mouth to unleash all blame on employees to save their sorry butts from all their own buffoonery

  • Are you a temporary worker looking forward to go permanent with full time hours? Make sure you Vote NO; it doesn’t matter which group you are part of.
    If Part time flex becomes a thing in Group 2, there is absolutely nothing stops the company from deleting full time Relief Letter Carrier positions the day after this new contract goes into effect. No resturctures required.
    This is going effect locals differently, but in Winnipeg, i estimate everyone between 2-7 years senority in Winnipeg will be displaced with this change alone; this includes myself.
    Canada post has an obligation to find all of these displaced full timers a position SOMEWHERE within CUPW. Speaking to other group 2 employees with this amount of senority, about whether they would rather switch to part time flex or transfer to another group for FT hours, and pretty much everyone said they would rather transfer to another group than go to PT hours.
    Myself personally, if this vote somehow becomes a yes… I will be putting my transfer to the plant before the new CA comes into effect, so I can get on a good shift and in area I prefer before all the other displaced carriers figure out theres FT jobs in other groups.
    Now combine with with CMB roll outs, more group 2 full time positions will be lost. This might take a few years to fully roll out, but there will be more displaced workers in a few years that will be transferring to the plant.
    You need to think of the big overall picture.
    If in 2025 PTF removes everyone 7 years and under of senority from group 2, and by 2027 they roll out CMBs; those with 8 years of senority in 2025, will have 10years of senority in 2027, and those people with 10years+ senority will likely be losing their FT positions in Winnipeg once CMBs fully roll out.
    Then in 2028, the next collective baraginning process happens, the conpany will surely try to roll out Part time flex into other groups; which will further remove FT opportunities.
    So I will say it again, if you are currentlt a temporary worker anticipating to get a full time positions some day, VOTE NO. Otherwise your going to need an insane amount of years befor you ever get a permanent FT position.

    • Speculation and fear mongering. Your opinion is just that, stick to the facts. Times have changed and so will your employment situation.

    • Job cuts are coming regardless. There’s a full review of the postal service coming in. The fall, what they’re going to find is a lot of fat, too many people doing too little work

      • Exactly.
        That’s why I make sure I deliver everything on my route, sort my flyers with my extra time and not go home too early.
        Plus, I make sure my soup see me working on something on the 7th hour before I go home.

    • Fer using this final offer guarantees only going into arbitration. Neither Cupw can guarantee you full time jobs or no cuts happen if there’s no parcels and business is insolvent. No matter how many years of seniority. What will be in 2028 is only hypotheses, nobody can predict the future. Spreading Union’s speculations for future while the present already requires taking changes -is deceitful. It’s like telling farmers false promises and expectations that 2028 will bring high crop, while in reality the area produced poor results for many years.

    • I’d start looking for work now. Don’t wait because it’s inevitable that layoffs will happen. Regardless of how the vote goes with a full postal reviewl on the horizon, spells lay off anyway, if we take what they’re offering, you get to work another two years, having said that your seniority is still not going to be enough… The union, it should be negotiating recall rates for those of us that lose our jobs…

    • Good luck finding a position at the plant.
      There are no open positions in mid shift. Most positions are during graveyard or late afternoon shift.
      There is not much mail or parcels as it was during COVID. There is hardly any OT.
      The only good thing is that you get to stand around a lot and do nothing, when there are no mail or packages to sort. 🥱
      It’s a no brainer.
      Just vote No.

    • If you’ve been here less than 7 years, you haven’t lived through the many botched negotiations CUPW has put us through. Vote No and enjoy the next couple of paychecks because they could be your last.

  • FOOD FOR THOUGHT….💭
    Since most everyone is so hesitant and leary on CIRB hosting the voting 🗳️
    I think 🤔 that everyone…all 55,000 should send notification once they have voted to a specific textable number or email with just one word….YES or NO
    This way…the UNION can tally up all YES or NO responses
    Just to rightfully COMPARE to CIRBS numbers
    And if discrepancies….WELL, more legal action. lol 😝

    • If I was going to text the union, it wouldn’t be a yes or no answer. It would be a paragraph full of profanities describing their complete incompetence .

    • For sure …… they are the ultimate in transparency and accountability. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
      Please come up with another suggestion.

  • DONT VOTE AT ALL
    TILL ITS LEGALITY IS PROVEN
    SOMEBODY IS GOING TO HAVE TO PUT ITS NECK OUT WHO ?
    SOMEBODYDY IS GETTING PAID FOR THIS ÀND SHOULD BE FIRE
    DONT FALL FOR THIS PRESSURE ITS A SHURE SIGN OF WEAKNESS

  • CUCKW losing there minds! LOL. Love it.

  • rally the troops camrades we ride at dawn(CUBA TIME) we got the whistlers and stickers and colored hairs ready to go soliddoooot

  • I’d like to know from the “no” crowd, what exactly to you expect to accomplish? Are you thinking you’d get more $? This isn’t Apple you work for. This place has made profit in many yrs. There are no money trees growing on the roofs of depots and plants. Save me “the mgmt get their bonuses though”. Sure cut all that stuff too. What’s that saving you? $10mill? What about the other $790 mill we lose? Wake up and realize this unfortunately is a dying business, and without changes, we all could be looking for new jobs. Vote yes, which at least carries us through another 3 yrs.

    • Yes here!👍

    • I will happily answer this for you; for me, and many others, it has absolutely nothing to do with the money we make. Canada Post has said, in their message to the IIC, that in 2028 they will shift the workforce to more part-time and flex jobs. They said so. What does that mean for full time workers? They will be pushed out in no time. I didn’t work in 40 degree heat and -40 degree cold, walking 20km per day, to be pushed out of my job. A “yes” vote makes this sooooo much easier for the corporation to accomplish. The losses are BECAUSE of the upper management that couldn’t adapt to the market. They were never held back from doing so by CUPW. Our union wanted to negotiate ways to accomplish a change in business without sacrificing good paying full time jobs; Canada Post cried to the government….even though THEY caused the position they’re in right now. So what happens after 3 years?? (Which is really 2 years and a few months). If you’re a letter carrier, your life will be changed exponentially, if you get to keep your job at all. If you’re an inside worker, just wait til they do the exact same thing to you in 2028. I really don’t understand how people don’t see the writing on the wall….

      • What are you doing delivering mail when you know the future?! Ridiculous the way you try and scare folks with your opinions. Let people review all the available information and come up with a decision without fear tactics and harrassment

        • I know the future because Canada Post has told us all what the future holds in their presentation to the IIC. Why wouldn’t I take them at their word?? Their own words?? If you actually read the reports and watched the videos of the hearings you’d be able to see into the future, too, because they say it!

      • You’ve been paid for your work, that surely included overtime no matter -40 or + 40. And yes, it’s a tough job. But you’ve been paid for. Now it’s a kinda greedy that union push the money cow scheme topic to continue having overtime for Saturdays and Sundays for double pay ( again being eagerly accepted no matter at -40/ +40). Instead, there will more unionized brothers and sisters, which is good for cupw

        • That’s not even what they’re pushing for. If you’re an actual worker you should know they’re pushing for full-time weekend and night delivery instead of part time and flex where workers have no clue how many hours they have to work day to day and week to week. Why don’t you know this???

          • Explain to me how they will make full time weekend workers? Where is the 40 hrs coming from??? The sky??

      • CUPW ALWAYS pushes back. They preach the health and safety of employees, then push back when safer delivery methods, like CMBs, are proposed. CMBs are much safer than foot routes, but CUPW did everything they could to stop them. Is it really about health and safety, or is it because they know it will reduce the workforce? Their whole focus is FT this, FT that, add more staff here, add more staff there; let’s bring in cleaning staff to boost the membership. The Union cares more about their agenda than they do about you.

        • 100% CUPW is a corporation just like CP. union dues are their lifeblood. The more dues, the more they expand their agenda.

    • NO NO NO NO NO. I’m fed up with you

  • The signing bonus should be based on years of tenure not based on full-time and part-time. Under no circumstance should a two-year full-time employee be getting $1000 while the 25 year part-time employee only gets 500. Whoever came up with this decision should be fired.

    • Who cares about part timers! You are only there to socialize get out of the house and those younger only come for the health benefits so forget you! So should have no say now things should be….

      • Calm down full timer. Who covers your work when you stub your toe or are crying for help cause your overburdened? That’s right, the part timer! Peace brother🤘

        • Actually no one covers it, take a day of personal leave and you have 2 days of mail waiting for you when you get back

    • Then vote no

  • What’s going on with SAP?

  • One last letter of doom from CPC before the vote. Talking about Kaplan like he has the end all say in the state of the company. Has anyone looked into the books to question management’s agenda for the last 5 years?
    Numbers submitted at the hearings.
    2006–urban routes-42,000
    -RSMC routes- 5,970
    -APOC————3,620

    2023–Urban routes-35,800
    -RSMC routes- 8,900
    -APOC—–‐——4,400

    3,270 less routes across Canada but somehow they need 780 more supervisors to watch them. Explain yourselves. As far as I could see from watching the hearings, Kaplan had no questions about this.

    • There’s something to think about 🤔

    • Typical that you think that it’s all about outside work. Multiple new larger plants and transport jobs have been created, thus more supervision required

      • “Typical “gas lighting word. Turn the facts into my issue of banality. Assuming, lol, that a supervisor would have 20 people under him, that would be 15,600 new employees. Let’s say they have 10 people under them (still sounds high) that would be 7,800 employees. Are you suggesting that these new jobs are invisible or maybe filled by attrition? Let’s see your numbers instead of your arrogant dismissals of facts. I might be “delusional ” or ” out of touch”.

    • He is in the corporations back pocket. Can’t be trusted

      • We’re all in the corporation’s back pocket, and I’m happy to be there. Getting paid is fantastic 😊 yes vote here

  • It’s very clear that CUPW truly hates Canada Post and wants to sink our company!! They don’t care about the company at all and truly don’t care about the membership

  • Too much propaganda in the mail from CPC trying to sway a yes vote. Lockout or shut it down, just don’t vote yes.

  • Yes vote here.

  • I’m still waiting for CUPW to show all of their demands, the whole list. It’s been a little one sided so far.

    • It’s been publicly available gif the last two years, this is definitely one sided, just managements side

      • Stop crying management. This is lazy workers and the union who protects them fault.

  • I was told by a reliable source ,mgmt troll? that if we vote YES, Cupw will pay for the members trip to Cuba this coming winter. If you can’t trust a mgmt troll who can you trust?

  • When are you members gonna stop letting Cupw and Cpc use fear,intimidation ,scare tactics, threats.against you. Do what I do reverse it and use it against them. Woo!

  • Don’t need to read between the lines from the above release. No vote begets a lockout

  • Neighborly Love

    My neighbor a retired postie was reading some of the comments made by both Cupw and Cpc. And asked why does Cupw and Cpc come across as so mean and negative. ? Don’t they see how poor of a reputation they are giving the world. I a p04 told him they don’t care about image,it’s about being disrespectful and hurting each other. My neighbor replied “in my day,when we got angry we just slashed tires and broke car windows”. I replied ” good ol days “,now they use platforms.

  • I don't know sarcasm

    I get alot of messages here in Toronto and I’d imagine in your great cities as well ,that Canada Post could be on strike shortly because of this vote depending who wins. So it’s obvious that the public image Canada Post has is one of stability and credibilty and that all customers business and residential should feel 100% confident in doing business with us.

  • Unfortunately it’s not a four year deal. And you have subjected us to “uncertainty” again, in two years. NO vote coming!

  • I have worked in various depots and cities in Ontario as a LC, LCA and clerk. I can’t begin to tell you the amount of money I see being thrown out the window daily by mgmt. Most depots have way to many supervisors, why not cut costs there. It doesn’t make sense to me that you want to hire part-timers when you can just use casuals. And lastly I can just picture the weekend drivers now, they’ll be like the amazon drivers who drive like crazy, park in the middle of the street, sometimes on the opposite side of the street. My vote is “NO”

  • I will not call myself Anonymos

    My kids told me to vote YES. My husband’s kids told me to vote NO.
    All our kids combined told me to vote for bars being opened longer

  • LAST PARAGRAPH THREATENING WORKERS…
    Where is the outcry from the media or any other union heads????

    • Postal workers cry plenty enough for the whole lot

    • CPC management has been threatening for years. Nothing new there. Media has been bribed and in government’s pocket for years too. CPC management and the federal government have been colluding to screw the workers. So don’t expect an outcry about this latest threat.

      • “screw” the workers, give it a rest, you all get plenty for the small amount of work you do. You have it better than so many other Canadian’s out there but have no appreciation or gratitude for it.

    • Why would they want to align themselves with us? We look like fools with a Union thinking its 1970 and not getting with the times and fighting every little thing just ” because”

  • Funny how both well respected experts are firmly in cpc back pockets and their supposed views are in lock step with corporation. Yet absolutely no mention of wasted millions in bonuses for absolutely nothing. What an utter sham!

    • It’s almost like they are experts and you spout inflated talking points. What are these millions in bonuses?

  • Be appreciative, not unappreciative

    I have read a lot of comments. Some good,some bad,some really funny. I say to myself that living In one of the better countries in the world,Canada and making a good wage with benefits,damn I got it good.
    Of course it’s not perfect,no country or life is. But compared to others where and how they live, with war,violence,instability, we all should be grateful here in Canada . Just take a look around the planet and you ll know what I mean. Thank You. I enjoy the FREEDOM to vote.

  • Voting ends Aug1. How long before the results are known,? Who is verifying the results,? Can they be trusted? Will my Leafs ever win the Stanley Cup? These are the questions of the day.

    • I believe that if you read the article, it tells you who’s going to scrutinize the vote as for the Toronto Maple Leafs, they will never win the cup. Laffs

  • Indecisive Anna

    I am 100% confident that mo matter the outcome of the vote,my union dues are going to a worthy cause. To pay for trips,rent staff and salaries etc for Cupw. This makes me feel real good knowing my dues aren’t being wasted on frivolous things .This may or may not be sarcasm,? Not sure.

  • Incredible fear mongering. Voting with a gun to your head.

  • I asked my educated cat . Should I vote YES,he meowed once,should I vote NO he meowed twice. Then the cat asked me how stable I am by asking him the cat how I should vote?

  • Chip on my shoulders

    Since most employees have little formal education ,can be played and resort to satanic vicious behavior when someone doesn’t agree with them . It makes sense you don’t understand voting YES or NO won’t make any difference. We’re all gonna get fu$$$d and Cpc and Cupw executives still gonna get bonuses,trips and laughing at hs workers.

  • Because CPC management and the executives don’t want to take accountability for their incompetence.

  • The final offer gives Canada Post management the power to “unilaterally right-size the workforce.” That means management can cut jobs, reduce hours, or restructure without consulting the union or workers. Once we give up that power, we don’t get it back.

    • Union will still be involved, stop thinking ALL the power will go to CP please. We are all in this predicament because of both of them. But Cupw, you need to let some change happen so we all have jobs.
      You fought a good fight in the decades before and got us much to be thankful for. Times are different now, please understand that and accept that this offer is going to be ok.

    • That there’s going to be a full postal review this coming fall… And there will be job losses on both sides of the fence… You can thank your union for instructing you to vote liberal

  • Cpc is losing $10 000 000 a day. A no vote does not guarentee favorable arbitration for workers, given the evidence cpc will put forth to the arbitrator. Further, there is no guarentee that cpc will not lock members out. A 30 day lockout, should cpc decide to do so, would save cpc roughly $300 000 000. Moreover, a lockout will starve out members, and possibly break the union. Cupw has no cards to play. They sacrificed the membership for their own selfish reasons by refusing arbitration in october. Cupw is not accepting the financial reality of cpc, or the economic reality of this country. Moreover, in a desperate attempt to get a no vote, they are trying to divide the membership by using fear and deceit claiming lc will transfer into clerk positions taking their positions and seniority. It seems Cupw believes doing this clerks will overwhelming vote no. Cupw is only interested in money by increasing dues to maintain their current revenue, and continuing with their global socialist leftist political policies. Only the members, given this unique, and very rare opportunity, can decide our future, even if only until 2028.

    • If a yes vote succeeds, in 2028 get ready for massive changes, for inside and outside workers. It won’t be pretty.

    • It is not a rare opportunity, give your head a shake. It is a way to bypass the charter of rights. All unions agree that this vote is the demise of all things they stand for. Yes = scab.

  • Good deal for sure. Yes vote here

  • I’d love to believe that you’ve tried, but I remember that you never made an offer until after the union filed a notice of dispute. Only then were you forced to make an offer. You have not tried, and you’ve lost the trust of your workers

    • And you’ve all lost the trust of Canadians.

    • I am not sure why this is such a difficult decision. We all know this is not a great offer. We also know lock out is a certainty if it turns out to be a No Vote. So if you don’t mind getting no pay for at least a month then vote No and hope for a possible arbitration. If you depend that pay to make your expenses then vote Yes. I have talked to some people who I thought would for sure would vote No. Someone a strong union guy and does a lot of overtime. He asked me if I think we would be locked out. I replied yup and unfortunately I cannot afford it. I like to vote No but financially I cannot afford it. He said the same thing. He doesn’t like 30% of the offer but can live with it. I plan to vote Yes

    • The union lost my respect, but still gets my dues. The corporation also lost a lot of my respect, but they do still pay a decent wage. And provide benefits. You can’t make everybody happy. And the union cannot save us all. So let’s do the right thing and to help Canada post get back on its feet. I’m voting yes

  • This is sad. You’ve lost the trust of your work force, so this is what happens. You’ve built these plants for 1 million parcels a day, and nothing to show for it. Bad decision after bad decision.

  • I’d rather see some changes to the execs

  • CPC are liars. If things are so bad, let’s see them start to lay off management and vice presidents, until that happens, I don’t think any of this is true. I would rather vote, No, and the whole place shut down, and I lose my job then vote Yes.

    • 100%!!! I will not go down without a fight! If CP is in such dire straits, how have they been paying us for the last 5 years that they’ve been losing billions, as they claim?? Everyone voting yes are gullible and terrified, exactly what CP wants out of a workforce. I have a backbone, where’s yours, “yes” voters???

      • Why so divisive? Very unkind comments from Hmmmmmm, not helping anything.

        • Not divisive at all. Just telling it like it is. You can vote any way you want. I just can’t understand why anyone would vote for less jobs and rollbacks. Makes zero sense to me.

      • You are just a rebel without a clue. Nothing to do about having a backbone.

        • Oh yes it does! This post from CP is a direct threat to workers. If you’d like to bow down to their threat, go right ahead! I will fight because I care not only about MY job but about the people that will follow me. That takes backbone, and if you can’t see that, I can’t explain it to you.

          • What if the business shuts down entirely? Will you feel good about yourself and the people that won’t be following you because there are no jobs to be had? As long as you fight, you’ll feel proud of yourself…interesting logic.

      • Well they had money from years of profit during the early days of mail, 20-30 years ago. They have been burning through it paying people to work half days

        • Just Sayin gets it 🤣👍👌

        • Do you mean before sequencing of mail? Before the flood of new management? Before PDTs? Before SSD? I actually loved my job before all that. CPC wasn’t happy with $100 million a year profits. They tried to chisel little bits of money out of nowhere and so we are where we are now. At one point we actually had one supervisor for every carrier in our office for a whole week. Social hot spot. If you are having money issues and you want to seriously address them, do it. Carriers are delivering sometimes to double the points of call that they were 20 years ago. The big leak is not in the workforce and everyone knows it. Luckily for you, so far, your crimes are not
          investigated….yet.

          • Of course you loved your job before sequencing. Two hours to sort while chatting with your buddies, with a half hour break thrown in when the coffee truck pulled in to the depot. Load up all your mail in your personal vehicle and maybe give the relay driver one or two bags for your last relay box. Go out and deliver your route in four hours and head straight home without going back to the depot because the afternoon staff would clear the SLBs and RPOs; and whatever you didn’t feel like delivering that day sat in the trunk of your car overnight to be delivered the following day.

    • Out of work postie

      If things are so bad that you would rather quit than quit why would you keep working at job you hate

      • Who said they hate their job??? I love my job, I hate the people who think they know what they’re doing in management. There’s a huge difference. The management that has tried to destroy this company for the last 7 years or so are trying to make it so I hate my job. That won’t fly!

        • Shhhhhhhh, the grown ups are talking

        • You use terms like “hate” and you claim not to be divisive, please keep ugly opinions to yourself 😃

        • Hmmmmm….how about you apply for a Management Position and fix everything! Or better yet, sit next to Jan and whisper to her what you think the next best move is to keep us all employed for the next 20 yrs.

      • Management first!

    • There’s a full postal review coming this fall in which most of the fat will be cut.Which means layoffs from both sides

  • Fan of The Champ

    Remember you get a free urinal cake if you vote no. They are offering a dry or soaked option.

  • If the corporation really cared about “continued uncertainty”, it would have agreed to binding arbitration. It did not and does not.

    • The corporation offered arbitration in October and it was turned down by your great union. Then we went on strike for 30 days. Then, uh, the final offer was announced. Then your union wanted arbitration. ..

      • Then the union didn’t want arbitration, then the union wanted to go back to the bargaining table, then the union wanted no government interference , then the union wanted the government to interfere because cp wasn’t giving in to union demands, then the union got tired and took a break, then the union was mad they were on a break, …

      • You write “your great union” then “we went on strike”. Which is it? Are you in the union or not. Your fake posting just got exposed.

  • Out of work postie

    Amazed at how often cupw sending out notices and info now on why we should be voting no before the minister ordered the vote we couldn’t get anything out of them

  • If we vote NO, we might be locked out and be on the street again- losing more income. What a mess are we to face again. If we say YES, then we have at least secured our jobs, with the same benefits and get $1000 bonus. I am voting YES!!

    • Secured our jobs for two years??? Yeah, that sounds awesome! 🙄🙄

      • I guess postal workers have a problem following the bouncing ball.. here’s my breakdown on how and who is going to vote? The yes, votes will come from the workers who are professional and can handle change the no votes. Will from people who don’t care about their jobs, they don’t show up. And our very lazy

      • It does and we are fools if we don’t take it. If you loved your job as you claim you would get back to providing a service to Canadians, however possible. You seem not to care at all about providing good service, only seem to care about getting blood from a stone. We are better off without the workers who have this attitude.

  • One last sarcastic comedy relief before we enjoy the wknd and start voting July 21. Thank you for the comments. You are the most creative ,interesting bunch of screwballs I’ve never met. Let’s just have some peace of mind and however the vote goes accept it and respect it,you don’t have to like it. I’m glad my indecisiveness didn’t get in the way of writing this comment…but I’m not sure. Lol

  • Changes are needed but remember part time supervisors are needed too. Save save

  • Regular everyday Joe Shmuck

    This is it. Your last weekend to think about how you want to vote. Keep emotions in check ,your wits about and remember your YES or NO on the offer,nothing else. Whether you like or hate Cpc,Cupw or each other has nothing to do with anything. Clear sober mind .Good Luck to all.

  • Vote YES or CUPW will sink the company and put all of our jobs at risk.

  • After reading this , definitely voting yes cause if you think there won’t be a lockout, you are delusional.

  • I want to keep my job and I want Canada Post to be around in the future!! Voting yes

  • Living In The Past

    Bargain like it’s 1999!

  • All you people that claim CUPW is propagandizing this process, please read everything above! This whole situation was created by Canada Post and absolutely none of the people actually responsible are owning up to it. Instead the workers are being punished for the inadequacies of management. While the CEO, who also has a stake in our competition, is funnelling business to said competition, the full time workers will not be able to make a living come 2028. YOUR WORKERS DIDN’T LOSE YOU $4-BILLION!! YOU DID!
    Voting “yes” ends your employment with Canada Post within 5 years. Do what you think is best for you…I’m voting NO!

    • You put yourself in this situation, and lost the respect of Canadians while doing it.

      • Need an explanation of that, please.

        • You need an explanation on lots of things kiddo 😅

        • You voted for a union to represent you in bad faith, never were willing to bargain, just stonewall. Being unwilling to adapt and having unrealistic expectations in current economic conditions force the company into action. CUPW doesn’t seem to understand change is needed for survival. The workers have gone along with the union demanding more. Somewhere providing a reliable service to Canadians was completely forgotten. Hence Canadians don’t trust and don’t have faith in postal workers. Majority of people I talk to want to see privatization because they are sick of this petty feud. I know it’s hard to follow but keep trying 👍

          • It’s not that it’s hard to follow, it’s a complete lie! The majority of people you talk to want privatization??? You are either making stuff up or you talk to three people. I have 1500+ points of call. I talk to dozens of people every single day. Not one of them, ever, has said Canada Post needs privatization. Not one. Why?? Because the people I talk to seems to realize that privatization means higher prices, less reliability, worse service…and there would still be a union to deal with!
            Did I follow closely enough?? 👎

  • I’ll be voting YES. I hope the majority will do the same.

    At this stage, those voting No means either they are unreasonably greedy or don’t want more efficient operation, or both. In other words, they are parasites or saboteurs that try to sink our ship.

    • This person gets it👍

      • Absolutely. Yes vote equals dismantling of our workforce. They totally get it

        • Maybe that could save the company. Scrap the current workforce and start anew. Plenty of people would love to take those jobs at their current compensation rates, in fact ma y would be willing to work for them! Crazy notion isn’t it?

  • “In the event the vote ends without a resolution to the current round of negotiations, no one can predict what may happen beyond continued uncertainty.“
    Wake up ,smell the coffee and let all vote YES!

  • The status quo is unsustainable. Keep that in mind

    • No one is saying status quo, what CPC wants is to blow up the union and to be able to decide on the fly what our days will look like. 30 year employees will be a thing of the past. They see the job we do now as a 5 year gig.

    • Agreed. Mismanagement is always unsustainable. Change needs to start from the top.

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