CUPW negotiations: Canada Post presents new global offers

May 21, 2025, 12:54 pm 368 comments

Canada Post has presented new global offers for employees represented by the Canadian Union of Postal Workers (CUPW). The offers for the Urban and RSMC bargaining units demonstrate the company’s commitment to reaching agreements at this crucial point in the negotiations.

The new offers go further on wage increases and would protect employees’ benefits and entitlements. The offers also reflect the Corporation’s current realities. To protect and maintain what employees value most and secure the future of the postal system, we’ve proposed important changes to build flexibility into our delivery model and to help address the company’s significant financial and operational challenges.  

Avoiding a costly labour disruption

Canada Post has received strike notices from CUPW, indicating that the union intends to begin strike activity as of Friday, May 23 at 12:00 am local time, unless the parties reach agreements before then. Our operations continue as usual at this time.

This is a critical moment for the postal system. Building on the important work of the Industrial Inquiry Commission (IIC) and the findings and recommendations in its final report, the parties must now bring urgency to the negotiations. Another labour disruption would be costly and disruptive for employees, small businesses and the millions of Canadians who rely on the postal system.  

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Read the offer details at canadapost.ca/offers.

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  • Just my 2 cents worth here regarding the proposed new part time delivery roles ,parcel and flex Why not offer these part time roles to recent retirees and employees who could retire at a reduced pension. ? You would save on training and also get rid of 7 week a year paid vacation employees like me.

  • Carry on delivering and move on

    Just my opinion but have all you people gone mad!! This isn’t funny anymore, their will be no fair vote, it will say its in favor of a strike if everyone voted NO! we need a true vote conducted outside of union and an independent audit of CPC to uncover all the true expenses that our corporation does, too many superintendents in one area, 1 could do the job of 3 to earn that bonus and salary, a top heavy management and if job cuts happen as always start from the bottom up, that is and will become an issue, this union and company will have to change the way it thinks and give way to some new blood in its ranks, less talk more action This is not a place to bitch, express your concerns YES, but do not bash someone for their concerns as we all have a stake in what happens here. I’m tired as is everyone else and just want to work stress free and enjoy the company of my co-workers. I agree that both sides need to wake up and see the writing on the walls. Again, this is my opinion and not looking for any comments on one persons opinion. we are all entitled to respect on our opinions. stop the bashing and support one another

  • The damage has been done, the lack of confidence of our customers in Canada Post full filling their needs is gone. It will take years if ever to win the trust of the public. We need a new direction and commitment as employees to work together to secure our future. Constant confrontation has led us to the cliff, we have to end it now. The clock has stopped and every delay is costing jobs. Desperate times call for desperate measures, I sincerely hope our Bargaining Committees realizes that now.

    • No because its their pride and ego that want to keep this going…they’ll keep fighting until they lose even more and more.Im laughing all the ones that were so Yay Strike back in November are now at work moping around! Love it!

  • Canada Post requires a good public non partisan forensic audit which would include all expenses for technological change and automation equipment which affect the bottom line. The overall cost and efficiency of the “management team” requires a review and reduced such as the cost of the Canada Post executive which should be cut especially when they receive large bonuses for their incompetence on running a business, eliminating their global excursions (trips – so called meetings) in foreign countries when we have the technology to meet from their office, show actual profits and expenses including technology costs to the taxpayers/rate payers/employees would go a long ways for understanding Canada Post operational budgets. Hiding expenses/ budget lines and budget transfers need to be visible and of course all budgets to be easier to access. Must remember this is a Crown Corporation that is owned by the tax payers even though it is a business model that does not rely on the taxpayer. With all the small businesses closing due to online shopping, Canada Post is essential for smaller and remote communities that are the cornerstones of their communities. Most of these Post Offices have had major reductions in staffing and cannot keep up with the amount of cages they are now receiving as they are exceeding Christmas volumes on a regular basis every day. Parcels and mail are not able to be processed in an efficient manner without correcting the number of employees required. Apparently First Class/Priority Post letters are sometimes left to be processed after parcels by order of management which also creates stress on the employees. The lines for customer pickups at the wicket are extremely long everyday which creates extreme stress on the employee at the wicket especially being short staffed. There appears to be absolutely no security measures in the smaller locations to protect the employees as they are open to the public without any sort of restriction, expected to work alone in a volatile environment, absolutely no video surveillance and the only safety plan is to access the phone and call for help and expect the police will clean up the aftermath of the assault. Since I believe moral is very low at this time and Canada Post is required to do better as an employer and not just wait for a major incident to happen before making proper changes as it seems all government entities only operate this way.

  • Post-a-saurus Rex

    At the heart of the matter, the corporation is aligning our work hours with the standard 8-hour workday followed by the majority of the workforce. While this may not be the change we hoped for, it’s important to consider the alternative. If we were to lose our positions here, most of us would end up in jobs within the broader labor market—jobs that not only offer significantly lower pay but also demand the same, if not longer, 8-hour shifts. In essence, we’re being asked to meet the expectations of the wider working world, but we’re doing so with far better compensation and benefits than we’d likely find elsewhere. It’s not just about accepting the hours; it’s about recognizing the value of what we have.

    In today’s fast-paced, convenience-driven world, weekend work is no longer a luxury for delivery services—it’s a necessity. Consumers expect fast, flexible delivery options, and many now choose companies based on who can get their package to the doorstep the quickest, even if that means on a Saturday or Sunday.

  • Don't have time to be annoying

    Really. For real. Strike on hold. No ot. Wow. All that aggrevation emotional turmoil ,mental cruelty. And accomplished nothing. I am so proud of both CPC and CUPW and everybody involved in the negotiations. I can only imagine how the future will be.

  • CUPW working without a collective agreement? Oh boy this is going to get messy….

  • CUPW are the Communist Party of Canada.
    They are stopping us from voting on this new CA.
    It’s a good agreement, but the CUPW executives don’t look like losers if they accept it.
    I hope the government would intervene and try to force a vote in the CUPW membership.

  • I never used to think about this before, but I have to say, Gary does have good valid points. I do agree with him.

    Our union executives have called for strike action, but let’s be honest about what’s really happening. They waited until the last minute and then said its now an overtime ban, leaving many of us, especially those with children and families, anxious and uncertain about if we are working or not. This is playing with my life, as I need to pay rent and feed my children. I believe the offer was good. Why are these people controlling us and not allowing us to vote?

    Their approach seems more focused on inflicting financial harm on Canada Post and dragging this out to frustrate the employer, rather than considering the impact on members like us. While they continue to collect full pay, we’re left worrying about our jobs, our income, and how to support our families. I have never been so disappointed in our union before.

    It’s easy for them—they’re close to retirement. But many of us are not. We still have years ahead of us, and this kind of reckless decision-making jeopardizes our futures.

    I will be writing to union leadership directly to express my frustration. I no longer have faith in their ability to represent our best interests.

    We deserve better.

  • Haha! What’s next? CUPW issued a ban on OT…What OT? Plants and depots have very little mail,where’s the OT coming from?!CUPW just give in and do the right thing for your members…just this once

  • Pathetic. Make sure everyone signs up for overtime tommrow. These clowns think it’s a circus. Do not listen to what the executives are trying to dictate.

    https://www.cupw.ca/sites/default/files/Bulletin%2086%20-%20CUPW%20Nationwide%20Overtime%20Ban_FINAL_EN.pdf

  • Congratulations babies, we rolled over. Enjoy working with no contract

  • I am a Letter Carrier so the face of CP on a daily. My heart is so heavy with the threat of a strike. I disagree with my whole heart in a strike action!! After the last strike and seeing nothing good coming from it, i know in my heart of hearts going out on strike again will be the last nail in the coffin:(
    We need to accept this offer!! Is it perfect no, but what it means for myself and 55000 employees is that we still have a job! If we don’t accept this offer than good luck coming out stronger, or with a job at all. I am not willing to risk my job, as i still have a mortgage to pay off, have family to care for, and am feeling affected mentally with all the insecurity!! Things have needed to change for a long time in the way we deliver, we need to keep up with the times, and we need to be competitive in an ever changing world. Will it look like the CP we first got hired on by no, but if it means we can still have a pension, benefits, holidays, and a slight wage increase, then that is better than the alternative in my opinion. My Brother’s and Sister’s hold strong, and i hope in my heart of hearts that those making the decisions on our behalf will be thinking of all our well being!

  • Twice or even once per week mail without legislated time frame for delivery, rotating mon-fri and tues-Saturday shift , cut staff from top to bottom 30%…instantly profitable, destroying ups and fed ex…., remaining employees paid 5 to 7 $ more/hr…but I’m dreaming…in reality either we accept the offer with some crap or we do rotating until arbitrated back with same or worse deal and more crap next contract…my prediction…not that it matters

  • As letter carriers we spitshine our hands to clean them before we eat cause we dont have time to wash our hands!!

  • Crossing the picket line not a good idea….teamsters raid a better idea

  • Take the offer!!!
    It’s a great offer and in today’s world, we need to be grateful that we have a great job with great benefits and a pay increase and even more time off!!! We have the best job ever. We need to start feel less ‘self-entitled’. The world has changed. No one is going to sympathize with us if we go on strike. We have it good.

  • Group 2 needs to go back to its own union!!!

  • @#!%×%! I cant believe i read in the news that 5 min wash time was a sticking issue wherras group 2 loses flyer pay…1704 o.t. and load level from other walks…time for a teamsters raid to oust cupw for group 2!

  • In response to gary…lets hope theres a gov monitored forced membership vote!!! Sick of this unipn!!!

  • Canada post can take everything away, But don’t you dare take my 5 min wash time away

    • Petty nonsense by a company run by petty and nonsensical people. How the hell does taking away a 5 min wash time make the company money? And who is employed by CPC coming up with these moronic attacks on their workers?

    • I’d gladly give up the 5-minute wash time if they’d also take away the 20-minute looking for a roll of tape time.

      • Or the half an hour spent ransacking every vehicle on the premises for a freaking dolly.

  • Let me make this very clear to everyone:

    Your vote does not count. This isn’t like a real election where every vote is tallied and verified. They throw out numbers like “95% in favor” just to create the illusion of solidarity and pressure others to fall in line. They are not required to tell you the truth—and votes are not broken down by locals.

    A live, transparent voting system is the only fair way. But even if we had one, it would still be controlled by bureaucracy.

    CUPW executives is pushing a counter-offer tonight, not for us—but to serve their own egos. And remember, they’ll still get paid full during a strike. We won’t. Most of them have over 30 years in and don’t care about younger employees with lower seniority.

    Stand up for your rights.
    Do not picket.
    Show no support for this strike.
    Cross the picket line.

    The only way is to STAND TOGETHER for what you believe is JUST

    • You should be blackballed from the Union Gary.There are several issues at play…blaming it all on executive ego is BS…
      Why don’t you quit???!

    • Cross the picket line? Not in this lifetime bud. I like parts of the deal but I am not a scab, not should you be. Disgusting.

    • Found the corporate schill. Last vote was revealed to locals.

  • SHOW NO SUPPORT.
    DO NOT PICKET.
    WE STAND AGAINST THIS.

    CROSS THE LINE.
    WE WANT TO WORK.
    WE DO NOT AGREE WITH THE EXECUTIVES.

    Let them know loud and clear: this does not represent us.

  • Here’s what I’m hearing through the grapevine: the CUPW president and executive team are planning to put forward a counter-offer tonight. If it gets rejected, they might move to a rotating strike—or take some other action. If that happens, we all know Canada Post will likely respond by locking everyone out. The executives will then turn around and blame CP for it.

    Honestly, I’m fed up with the actions of our union leadership. The current contract on the table seems fair, and a lot of us in the depot are frustrated. I’d say around 80% of our coworkers are not willing to picket this time around.

    As a strong message, I suggest crossing the picket line to show we don’t support this direction. It’s time to make it clear: “Our vote doesn’t count.” These decisions are being made without truly representing us—so why should we keep trusting them?

    Let’s stand together and speak up for what’s right.
    Don’t picket. Cross the line. Make your voice heard.

    • Word is overtime ban, also CPC said they would maintain operations if we went rotating, so unless they back in their word, it’s in their response to the strike notice on their website.

    • If we’re on strike, you can’t ‘cross the line’, even if you want to. Canada Post will be shut down. You won’t be able to work or be paid. You can choose not to support CUPW though. Hopefully this will be over soon.

    • Gary,
      Respectfully
      Please shut up!
      YOU do not speak for “80%” of this union. You don’t like the way this is going….there’s the door.
      I will walk happily. If you and these others lemmings can’t see how manipulative this company is being, there is no help for you.

      • If you’re not happy, there are plenty of jobs out there. Maybe you should start applying if you don’t appreciate your job. I’m with Gary on this.

        • Why is it when someone wants to fight for workers some mistake this for “not being happy with your job”. That’s ridiculous! I love my job, AND, unlike you, wish to gain the most for workers over corporate greed and mismanagement, which CP has shown plenty of over the last decade. If you can’t appreciate the gains workers have made BECAUSE of unions, there is absolutely nothing I can say to convince you.
          I am FOR THE WORKERS, not just myself!

      • Gary keep talking

      • you should walk. see who follows. i am lining up behind gary.

      • I would suggest it is you who should hold hold their tongue. You are a lone wolf in terms of opinion. If you and your greedy strike prone brothers/sisters had any weight, you’d be there right now on the picket line. Go work in the private world and enoy 13.59% raise every 4 years- not.

    • I agree, it is time to start pushing back against CUPW…I will not be picketing and will the cross the line if there is a good amount of members doing the same

  • CUPW is not a union. It is Marxist operative, stuck in the seventies, and apparently enjoying it. I paid dues to them for decades. If I had my way, i would shut the place down, rather than having to negotiate with them

    • So from your post can I assume you’re a retired former employee. That must mean you got a pension from Canada Post. Now you want to shut the whole company down and put all current employees out of work? Thanks for your support.

      • Not sure if you can read but the last offer is leaving the pension untouched and they even went back on post retirement benefits changes. So I would call this a good offer.

        • They’re agreeing not to take away what we already have and you call this a good offer??

        • Many worse of then you

          Amen. Accept it. It’s not perfect but it’s fair overall.

      • Former member are you drunk? Be quiet, the grown ups are speaking.

  • Strongly against the strike

  • Canada Post, CUPW won’t get out of their own way. Please ask the minister to let members vote! I want to work, I can’t afford to strike yet again for nothing

  • Where is CUPW?!

    Hours from the deadline, no response to offer.
    CUPW save face, say you don’t like the offer and that it falls short but that in the best interests of Canadians you are going to put it to an employee vote.
    LET US VOTE!!!!

  • An excellent offer by CPC. Consider increasing 6 personal days and it can carrying over 10 annual. This is an unseen rate increase and it is a cost by CPC. Of cause 10 sick days added into the new contract is a idea dream. So…My suggestion is accepted the offer don’t wasting time on strike, some family need the paystub to pay bills. Planning for next round four years….

  • Only delay I can see is that the union is disorganized and has not prepared properly for this. They need more time to strategize and come up with a way to fight back. This deadline puts them in a position of weakness. There has been close to 2 years worth of reviewing these offers back and forth so there is nothing new there that the union does not know about. Stall tactic at the end of the day but it did not work.

    • Retired postie

      The delay they are trying to get is to get the next instalment of union dues before the strike. Without it they probably will be bouncing strike pay checks.

  • Take the deal and stop f’ing playing games!

  • CUPW has never been a democratic union. If “we” walk out it’s time for a CLRB complaint for not bringing offers to the members to vote on. A raid sounds pretty good, too. It’s a long open period. Someone, please, save us!!

  • I think we should as employees,if the union decides not to take this offer, be given the choice to re-Vote, specially with the special circumstances of the strike being postponed and restarting so many months later. And also the report that was put out.Employees have a right to now re-vote because of different circumstances different time!

    • Retired postie

      What good is a re-vote if the ballots are counted away from the eyes of the members.

    • Do you mean re-vote on the strike mandate? Good luck with that. The government could mandate a vote on Canada Post’s latest offer and they may have to do that. The two sides are meeting now so there’s a tiny tiny chance sanity may prevail.

  • Instead of having a 5 min wasup time value, why not use those 5 min to add let’s say a community mailbox to a route, and make extra money with flyer delivery to that community mailbox?

  • Tick Tock : Enough Is Enough

    Why delay the strike by another two weeks to “mull things over” when it serves no one?
    Our volumes are already gone. Plants are empty. Our customers walked weeks ago to avoid having their items trapped in our network— AGAIN. Every day we sit idle, we’re hemorrhaging cash, and soon there will be nothing left of Canada Post for anyone to work at. Take the Deal and Let’s Get Back to Work. This Isn’t Just Your Post Office, CUPW — It’s Everyone’s

    • CUPW doesn’t care. They have no understanding of how business works. They only know how to whine and make demands. CUPW execs (and unfortunately many members) think Canada Post has a huge ‘secret’ stash of money that they could give us if they wanted to. Guess what? Canada Post is a crown corporation. The finances are public record. The company has year after year of losses. We need to change our delivery methods. It’s not that hard to figure out.

  • Former Leaf president Shanahan

    I need a job. Shanahan. I hear Canada Post is a great employer with a solid union. They both work together to support one another.

  • its going to be a strike guyz..

    • Sadly it looks that way unless CPC and CUPW hug it out in the next few hours. Dont see it happening though.😔

  • Leafs need President

    The ,Leafs need a new president. It pays much better then Canada Post. Don’t have to be concerned about strikes. Pls apply to MLSE,P04 P05,Soups,Superintendentswelcomed

  • Don’t expect a proposal like this to be on the table if we’re ordered back to work or if a strike goes ahead. I urge everyone to seriously consider the actions taken by the executives and the so called people that represent us without our voices, the members voices heard. Think carefully before deciding whether to join the picket line—don’t become a muppet for something you don’t truly support. I will cross the picket if needed. I will not support this cause !

    • I Agree fully. I think that those that do NOT support CUPW should set up a picket line across the street from the CUPW line and picket AGAINST the Union.

    • No, if we strike for one, two or however many weeks and are ordered back, we’ll be put into arbitration. It’s a guarantee the result will be worse than the current offer. Of course workers will have list tons of money in the meantime. Everyone including CUPW will regret rejecting this offer. This has happened to our union many times before. It’s almost as if Canada Post’s negotiating team is smarter than CUPWs.

    • Pretty much the same executive that violated the contract with the 2 year extension a few years back. Not surprised they won’t let the membership decide.

    • Good advice about not supporting the union’s insanity. Bad advice about crossing a legal picket line.

  • A 5 minute wash up (DUMB) the corporation and management should decide how weekend parcel delivery should be handled. Canada Post backed off a number of issues ( pension and pension benefits),they increased the pay amount. NO STRIKE. IF cupw comes back to the negotiations with a counter proposal, good, BUT NO STRIKE

  • I kindly urge CUPW leadership to consider what your members would truly gain from another strike. Please also reflect on whether you have the capacity to refuse if the government demands our unconditional return to work. If not, I would sincerely suggest accepting this offer, regardless of how much it aligns with the union’s demands.

    • If only the members had a chance to vote I am sure that this offer would be accepted. However, if you’re from the general public, you may not be aware that this union is like a dictator. A few make the decisions for the members that they claim to represent.

    • The members will gain nothing. They will lose thousands of dollars in wages. The only gain will be to the CUPW execs bloated egos.

  • At this point the union is just being plainly diabolical. They don’t want to make any concessions and continue to whine about everything. Any reasonable person would take this offer, this shows how stubborn and unreasonable this union is. There is no dialogue with the members they treat us like kids. Their tone on their website is condescending and downright disrespectful. The hell with staying strong, what are we supposed to do with that phrase?

    • They won’t compromise because they never ever do. The CUPW execs are so excited because they’re in a glorious battle with the oppressor (ie. the company that pays us all). They won’t stop until every member has lost weeks or months of wages once again. Don’t forget, the CUPW execs will still be getting paid.

    • let’s see how long you can stay strong when you can’t pay your bills

  • I have never seen much intelligence oozing out of two groups CPC and CUPW that I’m thinking of dropping out of university and just learning from these two .

  • Just a simple question, Canada Post is criticized regularly for their low ball offers which keep improving yet name me one concession CUPW has done so far to come to an agreement?

    • Well they did come down in their wage demand from 32% to 19%. Do they not realize inflation is back down to 2%. It’s not a surprise why CUPW always loses.

    • Looking at the latest offer, it is hard to understand why the union is refusing. Workers keep everything that matters: pensions, benefits, job security, weekends off, and even get strong wage increases. Most people today do not have anything close to this kind of deal. That is a dream package in today’s job market. The wage increases is well above inflation and more generous than most public or private sector raises.

      CP has already backed off major demands. This is not just a fair offer, it is a generous one given the financial state of the company. Yet some in the union seem blind to the bigger picture. CP is losing money fast. The public does not care about us. We are on a sinking raft, and CP is offering a hand. Keep pushing it away, and we all go under.

      So why is the union still refusing? At this point, it starts to look less like protecting workers and more like ideological stubbornness.

    • Making lawyers richer

    • They gave up joining the contracts, they will let SSD die, and they have come down on pay. There is no way we bend on pensions and benefits — EVER!! The key now is weekend delivery and all the letter carrier changes. We may have to bend a bit more…and management may have to firm up language to ensure we are not 80% part-time in a few years…

  • I don’t support the union turning this down. CP is barely staying afloat, financially and otherwise. There’s a strong sense of entitlement among some who’ve spent their careers in the comfort of this job, with pensions and benefits that most people outside this place could never dream of. Outside of here, it’s extremely tough. Many have no jobs, no benefits, no stability. The public barely relies on Canada Post anymore, and most wouldn’t care if it disappeared. If it does, there are private companies waiting to step in. They’ll pay minimum wage with no real support. Keep pushing, and we could all be left with nothing.

  • I have 2 parcels to be delivered on Friday May 23,2025. Do you recommend I use UPS or labour and management harmony that Canada Post is showing the world.

  • I agree with this offer

  • Canada Post employee

    If strike coming, it’s almost May23,,I will not wear any Canada Post apparel in public so that I won’t be chased and beat up. Take my advice

    • Funny stuff

    • Hooters Patron

      Clean the management inside the plants. Multiple supervisors, superintendents, managers standing and talk around during their shifts. Thats where money goes.

  • We are definitely going the way of the dodo if we don’t adapt. My job requirements have dropped by a third. Make concessions or there will be no jobs for anyone!

  • No. I categorically reject this offer, and all offers that include 2 tiers of benefits/pensions, and doubly so for any agreement that doesn’t share the weekend work equally between FT and PT. PT staff are not lesser than FT, and deserve weekends and family time just as much as any FT. All together, all under the same system, or no system for anyone. I

    • Canada Post employee

      Lol

    • this is the best offer you will get, your union is responsible for 100’s of million dollars of losses annually due to trapped time and abused 17.04. Times are changing, and you can ‘categorically reject’ this offer all you want, little do you know that this is the best and final offer that your group will be getting, and the rest of the company will finally be on a more level playing field. work 8 hours paid 8 hours, work 3 well then you only get paid 3. Welcome to the new age of Canada Post postie.

    • Agree

    • This is a moral stance, not a practical one. While all workers deserve dignity, part-time work by design does not carry all the privileges of full-time positions. Sometimes protecting the whole means accepting a few compromises. We need smart decisions, not a take or leave it approach.

    • RSMCs too??? Many companies hold back benefits for 6 months, so what is the big deal, these are employees that don’t even work here. WHY did CUPW agree to $7.00 / hour LESS for new employees a few contracts ago. This is COMPLETELY against the labor law “equal pay for equal work “

    • What a nonsensical take. I worked as a part time MSC when I started at Canada Post, more than 30 years ago, My days were Sunday to Wednesday. Many people even prefer to work on the weekend due to family commitments, more than one job etc. Canada Post has to deliver parcels on the weekend in order to match our competition. That’s gow we canmget new accounts and grow the company. It’s not hard to understand.

    • So you reject the offer? Let me tune you in brother/sister. This is the last offer you will see from CPC. Is it a good offer? Does it address all our concerns? No, not really but a wee bit better than what was offered last year. CUPW can counter all they want. It will not be looked at. This is it. Their last offer is their last offer. Losing $4k 6mths ago (over Christmas season to boot) didnt open your eyes that CPC isnt fooling around. A company that depends on Christmas season for most of its revenue didnt seem to care that we were on strike and offer us a golden offer. Didnt happen did it. Now that summer is here and volumes are tradionally low…do you truly believe that they care that we will be striking now? Not a chance. Imo CUPW take the weekend to go over the fine print of the last detailed offer and as long as lawyers say there is nothing incredibly shady…i would say accept the offer. Deal is only good for another 2+ years anyway.

    • Its a dream offer. WIth Part time workers to work the weekends, all the full time can work bankers hours and enjoy their weekends. Yet, the Union wants to make everyone lose their weekends. I do not call that, an improvement. It is just being too stubborn. Like really. tell me all the Canada post workers want to start working weekends at straight time. and get days like Monday and tuesday off! Do not think so.

  • Canada Post can never survive, They use the free cash flow from letters to subsidize parcels.

  • Brothers and sisters…this is the best offer we gonna see. Our neb does not realize this. They can counter all they want. CPC last offer is their LAST offer. Walked picket line daily in Nov/Dec. Losing almost $4k gross for the month was tough, no doubt and what was accomplished? Nada, nothing, zero. Imo rather not lose $4k again. If this is the hill that CUPW wants to die on…then we all lose. Hopefully sanity will prevail in the next few hours

  • You can do your load levelling and i’ll do mine!!!

  • Ok so why i made ssd thev#3 concern…i already work in an ssd stn and i already know how much harder the flyer situation is(multiple bundle delivery method)im used to it but you know to offer a no payment system on the flyers is a kick in the teeth!
    The flyer portion of my rte takes as long or longer than the other 2 partsvof my rte now…and what about there load levelling rule…do they take in all the 3rd class into acct?
    Load level….i’ll be ?#@$ load levelling big tim if they try that!

  • Just privatize Canada Post and be done with the Unions once and for all.

    • Um…you know private companies have unionized workers, too, don’t you??

    • Lol what a clueless comment. You would be the first one to get laid off once canada post is privatized. And privatized companies do have union of their own.

  • This deal looks great for the plant workers…all they lose is their 5 min washup break…group 2..
    1. Flyers for free now
    2.end of 17:04 o.t. doing extra work for free now..against our will
    3of course ssd…
    ?&%$#@ you think im going to work the way i do as before?! forget that!
    Im not going to sacrifice my body for less! You can count on that!

    • Who cares? Stop trying to make this into inside vs lettercarriers/RSMCs,CUPW has done the dividing no one else by always making sure the last few contracts suit Group 2…Now CPC is trying to be fair to Group 1 also and its a big deal?

    • i think youre the biggest complainer of them all. you do not deserve to be paid 8 hours until you complete 8 hours on the clock. Not 8 hours of a judged route that was last measured 25 years ago when CPC had volumes. Do you know how many millions / hundreds of millions in losses the company has sustained by paying out 17.04 the last 10 years with no volumes? I personally seen letter carriers making upwards of 150k annually from milking the 17.04 system. getting paid 36 regular hours (3 routes = 1.0x 8 hours, 1.5x 8 hours, 2.0x 8 hours) in a single work day for working 3 routes is absurd, and it is the current reality because CUPW employees have it the easiest, we have no volumes at the company anymore, public lost trust in the company, your group has ruined CPC’s public image. Quit complaining and find a new job, people like you are the ones that upper management needs to pick out of the weeds and cut loose. you will never be happy unless you are handed your paycheque on a golden platter without having to get off your ass and work an 8 hour day.

  • Neutral retired inside worker

    I know it comes down to more than wages. But can someone tell me what would be the hourly wage of an inside worker under the new offer?

    • $32.20 immediately and $34.51 in the final year. I vote YES but I support all our brothers and sisters that will undoubtably vote NO. If there is no one to deliver the product there is no need for any sorters. Everyone support all carriers because that is what this is all about!

  • We could’ve been in a different position today if we took advantage of the pandemic to deliver more like other companies did, but instead the talk was , “ohhh we can’t take too much work”…”ohhhh , we are overburdened “

  • Cupw — drop some of your demands. Cpc did.. that’s what negotiations mean. Everything for future employees remains intact, same as regular employees today. Be happy with that!! Give in to the PT weekend /flex and tell them to drop dynamic routing and you’ll have a deal

    • They are likely to concede some ground, but they will need more than 24 hours to counter off. Extend the negotiations until Monday!

    • CUPW seems incapable of compromise. That’s why every member is about to lose thousands of dollars again. Just to feed the egos of CUPW execs. Who BTW will still be getting paid. So the joke is on all members who pay $1200 a year for this representation.

  • The CEO had five months to present an offer, and waited until less than 48 hours before the expiration of the collective agreement to do so, knowing full well that does not give the union enough time to consider the offer, much less put it to a vote of members.

    The CEO also knows full well that there is no reality in which postal workers are going to work without a collective agreement and the essential health coverage it includes. By rejecting the union’s proposal to continue serving Canadians while they look at the offer, the CEO is deliberately provoking a general strike – as it did in November, when its announcement of new terms of employment (before knowing what strike action was planned) ensured that there would be a general strike instead of rotating strikes.

    The CEO is showing Canadians his extreme bad faith in rejecting a common sense proposal to keep the mail going for at least the next two week. That he is deliberately destroying Canada’s national postal service is no longer speculation – he has now made that intent crystal clear.

    • Yeah right, CUPW should just demand more. Demand so much that it ensure that there is no more Canada Post. Then when it is sold to Amazon, all CUPW people can enjoy working without a union.

      • I didn’t even mentions demands or the content of the offer. My comment was about the CEO’s bad faith in rejecting a two-week truce that would guarantee at least short-term stability for customers as well as employees.

        Cute deflection, though.

  • Set new record

    If strike Friday May 23 ,must last til July 4 minimum
    that will set record for longest strike in Canada Post history 43 days ….and isn’t that the goal.

    • More than half of the members would’ve already found another job if it took that long. In this economy no way people can be playing strkes.

  • Sarcastically challenged.

    We can’t we all just get along. Look at the rest of the world ,they’re all getting along.

  • I will picket for free. Night and day and weekends. I stand by CUPW all the way .

  • Canada post is a bully get back to table and work out some of the flaws.
    They did not want to delay because management wants their bonus that they got what the government wanted ! The sheep with take it.

  • Reject the offer! Strike now! Anger businesses ,general public ,workers ,don’t let CPC bully you. This is evil emperor,it must be stopped!

  • BETTER OFFER THAN STRIKE/LOCKOUT. CUPW SHOULD ACCEPT THIS OFFER. YOU CAN NOT GET ALL DEMANDS ACCEPTED IN ONE SHOT. ACCEPT IT WHATEVER THEY ARE OFFERING. THIS IS NOT THE END OF THE WORLD. CUPW CAN MAKE MODREN FUTURE PLANS FOR BEST SOLUTIONS. AT LEAST WE MUST HAVE COLLECTIVE AGREEMENTS IN OUR HANDS.

  • Please god take the offer, it’s the best we’re going to get. We do not have public support on this at all and I’d prefer not picketing and getting the finger from every single driver who passes by. Take the offer. If this went to a vote to membership I guarantee we’d accept it. CUPW – the offer is a good offer, please show some common sense, read the room, and accept.

  • Mail delivery legislation should be changed….every other day delivery or even weekly delivery is the answer. That’s where money is lost. The real cost of delivery to every household in every corner of the country is the issue. Unfortunately that means reduction of staff which is necessary… and not just carriers – Middle , upper, specialty , everywhere and nobody can make that happen in reality. If that happened we’d be able to undercut ups, fedex…everyone on parcel delivery and we could be paid more. But this game is about dues and cushy salaries and bonuses so it’ll be another round of crappy deals that don’t address reality and day to day work will just continue to be more frustrating….

  • Let’s strike. They missed our 3 main demands.

    1. Postal Banking
    2. Senior check ins
    3. Contract in the Janitorial staff

    • CUPW needs to realize that their job is to represent its members, and get them the best wages/benefits/working conditions that they can. Their job is NOT running the business. The “demands” to do different kinds of business need to stop. The mandate is to negotiate an agreement for the members, not to introduce new lines of business that have NOTHING to do with delivery of mail or parcels.

    • You do realize that CUPW could produce zero information on this when Kaplan asked for numbers and rationale. The union had no business case, no cost analysis and zero facts as to how this would be a sucessful undertaking. Words are empty….

      • CUPW knows nothing about business or how it works. Most of our execs have high school educations or less.

    • I’m not going on strike for that B.S. Not one of those points affect me and the work I do.

    • You forgot cleaning the highways…

  • We have multiple 5 ton trucks coming to every depot each morning. Most are half full at best. We should move start times to a little later and have ONE truck come to the depot in the morning if that’s all the volumes require. ONE truck leaving the depot in the evening.

    Our service standards for many areas are slower than our competition so we can’t compete when it comes to speed. Why? They start a little later in the morning.

    Our expedited service standards should be as good or better than competitors. Set those first. 1 day wherever possible. Then design the depots and shuttles accordingly.

    • Please don’t cause problems for senior management by spouting common sense – if they cut costs by becoming more efficient with better logistics, it would just make it that much harder for them to blame everything on workers who have no say in managerial decisions.

  • Just a thought

    Hey CUPW

    Ever thought about hiring negotiators and a spokesperson?

    I mean just look at the difference between how polished CPC was in the Kaplan Commission and every appearance on CTV news.

    Compared to… Here’s our person who allegedly as legend would have it… delivered some mail 20 years ago. Negotiation experience: says they got a good deal when they bought their last car at Honda.

    If you want to succeed in the big leagues, don’t bring the average joes.

    • Yes CUPW has been outsmarted once again. They will lose as usual, but not before dues-paying workers have each lost thousands more dollars. Total failure and refusal to compromise by CUPW. There are competent, professional, successful unions out there. CUPW isn’t one of them.

    • cheers to this!

    • While we’re staring at unpaid bills and no paycheque in the middle of this mess: is it worth it? This guy pushing the hardest has nothing to lose and he’s not struggling like the rest of us. One guy’s pride or all of our livelihoods? Feels like an easy decision. And honestly, why can’t we hold someone like that accountable?

  • Chester Whipplefilter

    I’m surprised National CUPW never suggested turning on music and selling ice cream out of the side of the step vans while doing a park and loop. Or perhaps opening a paper mill and printing press so CUPW could make the envelopes and print the flyers. One stop shop. Maybe even look at expanding union membership to cardboard box manufacturing employees.

    Ah well. Always next time.

    OR wake up and stick to wages and extended health benefits. You know, the whole reason your members actually work here. People don’t apply to work at Canada Post to be part of some sort of workers revolution. They come to Canada Post so they can bring home a good paycheck, benefits and a pension to their families while having food work and life balance. You’ve lost sight of this CUPW.

    Time for a reset.

  • Big kid pants: on

    Everything except the work levelling is as good as it gets. Sounds like POC’s increase if your “volume” is low. So…instead of walking 25 km/day, you now walk 35 some days? Nope.

    Language about only doing this for apartments/community mailboxes would fix that right up. Particularly because it sounds like door to door is on the way out. Nobody loses.

  • Frustrated Postie

    Zero improvements to extended health plan dollar amounts?

    Why???

  • Take the offer I don’t know who gives them a right to play with our lives while they eat from the trough that is filled by our backs. Take the damn offer be smart for once

    • You gave them the right when you allowed them to count the ballots behind closed doors. Until this issue is addressed the same strike mandate of 95 % will be given at every vote. Even if you were able to vote on this offer you have no guarantee that the count is legit.

  • Studying the CPC offer. For a company that is supposedly on the brink of financially ruin ,they seem to have found money to give a fair offer. Of course everybody wants more ,but considering the economics of Canadian life and the industry and this has been on going for over two years now ,not a bad deal. Should be considered seriously by Cupw and employees allowed to vote on it.

  • Out of all the negative comments about this place, I actually enjoy the work I do. Yes, we may lose some positions in the long run. However, we all will be protected from job security and by the time Dynamic routing affects all of our routes Canada wide hopefully all the people ready to retire will retire and there will be a pause on hiring. They say Dynamic routing will be implemented in 10 facilities, and I assume they will be in metropolitan area. To me, theres hope in this contract for the younger generation of this company to retire with dignity. CUPW please accept this offer.

  • Children on the playground

    Looking at various idiot boxes ,I notice Cupw seems more interested in attacking CPC personnel ,trying to hurt them in order to satisfy their own low self esteem and fragile egos. I guess it would make too much sense and logic to focus on new offer instead attacking each other.

  • The union want more fat when CP is only skin and bones. Your attitude may put your job in jeopardy. Small business owner will use other alternative.

  • Captain Obvious

    Vote Here, lets show….

    Yes or No

    I’m YES

  • Let us vote – it’s the best deal we can get now. We want to work.

  • Mohammed Mohsin

    This is the time to accept this offer. We have to consider in our national and global situations. So many organizations are going to be closed and employees are going to be laid off. Besides, we have our job as well all kinds of benefits and offered to increase wages. Business world is changing. As and business organizations, we have to accommodate ourselves to other postal companies in the field. It should be wise and good decision for union to accept this offer and go further for next future.

  • Don’t worry about the future worry about now. When things get better you will have cards to hold again. But not now, so let’s not act like it. Democracy is the greater good of all not some part timers who are only showing up for the benefits while they run their real estate business on the side forget them!!

  • Vote yes or allow the members to vote on it. The fact that we couldn’t vote yes or no to strike this time around is disappointing. There are new issues in the world that can affect us. I feel like I have no voice anymore.

  • Take the offer.
    CUPW think about your members.

  • We need to take the offer now.

  • As a LC in New Westminster I have always felt major changes in our delivery model need to be implemented. Daily delivery to homes with 20 steps and all you have is some solicitation is insane. CMB expansion and fewer days of delivery are necessary. Everyone should realize 7 day parcel delivery to residences is a must. Part-time is required as you can’t expand a 5 day week into 7 day delivery. Load levelling is a little puzzling as from what I can see most LC’s work very fast and don’t take breaks, thus they finish early. I see inside workers moving at a much slower pace because there is no motivation. Personally I am extremely efficient (my opinion) and might get a half hour off in a day that is average. Tell me I have to come back and do more due to this efficiency, missed breaks and speed and I may adjust my approach. Canada Post will end up with the lowest common denominator effect, not good for efficiency. This offer is not perfect but they rarely are, it is however a far sight better than the contract that was signed that implemented an 8 year probation period which cost the new hires $60,000 over the previous new hires. Let’s realize that this is 2025 and our Company is bleeding money. Time to work together to protect the viability of Canada Post and therefore all of us who work there. By the way I do work as a letter carrier and my name is Ron Luft.

    • Thanks for your post and I totally agree. I’m a 30 year LC amd any intelligent member knows we need to change our delivery methods to survive. Our union seems unable to match wits with Canada Post and sticks to the same tired fights they’ve already lost. Let’s just hope we get a chance to vote on this offer before we all lose too much money. We’ve lost enough already supporting an incompetent union.

  • Canada Post please put it to a vote! Our union has lost the plot and only wants to complain not accept any change that ensures a future. Let the members vote! We want to work and we want a say!

    • maybe the real vote should be against National CUOW – a vote of non confidence? Seriously, if these are the major demands:
      1. Postal Banking
      2. Senior check ins
      3. Contract in the Janitorial staff

      Two tiered systems are everywhere…Safeway for example, the grandfathered workers make $35 an hour, newbies, $17 how is Canada Post any different?

      We are in serious trouble. A grade 10 education is not the ones you want bargaining your livelihood away…accept and move forward – happily!!

  • well union is declining the offer. still to many things far a part. Its going to be a strike sadly.

  • Hi everyone,

    I want to inform you all about the possibility of an upcoming strike. Some of you may have already been contacted by your local.

    I want to be clear: I do not support striking over something I believe is unjust. I do not agree with the union’s approach in this situation.

    For those of you who want to work, please feel free to share this message with your co-workers. You have every right to cross the picket line. Many of us did not vote for a strike, and most of us do not want one. It’s time to speak up.

    I believe that more than half of our colleagues want to keep working, but our voices are being ignored. Let’s make sure we are heard. It’s time to put an end to this bureaucracy.

    A union should represent the voices of its members—not operate like a dictatorship.

    Let’s stand together for what we believe in. Lets cross the picket line. Share this with everyone. We want to work !

    • Cross the line to work what??? Nothing moving. No mail, parcels…give your head a shake.

  • what is the purpose of load levelling, and dynamic routing, when in the near term CMB conversion will be on the table as part of a mandate review?

  • CPC giving basically no time to review and counter offer. This is not an offer we can vote on!!! Wake up CPC — we may get to a deal but give us some time to counter!!!

  • I am good to this offer!
    I do not want strike/lockout

  • You know, there will be many members who will not be able to picket this time. They will be looking for work to hold them over. So much for a show of unity when so many will be elsewhere. Have a vote and see what the members want. This is supposed to be a democratic process is it not?

  • I’ll accept the offer, in a heartbeat.

    If our union rejects this offer, the company should just send the offer directly to us for a vote.

  • I vote YES but I can see a hard NO from my group 2 brothers and sisters (as it should be) I hope everyone can see the problem here, which is keeping us ALL on wage parity across all classifications within CUPW. It needs to change in order to move forward.

    • Chester Whipplefilter

      Changes are needed for group 2.

      P04 works 8hours. Group 2 works 4-6 for that same 8hr pay.

      Not sustainable any longer. Anyone can see it. Public support will be zero. No other company offers workers 8hr pay for working 4hrs while it’s losing billions.

  • Giving us time value for flyers was a scam when the union sold us out on a lie…saying we would get an extra payment if we go over a certain amount of flyers per week…and in return we gave up .023…down to .015 for most flyers..all the union cares about is their union dues not our flyer pay…as its not included in their union dues

    • Yes you’re right, this is totally CUPWs fault. The union also agreed to unlimited sets of oversize flyers (in exchange for time values) in a previous failed negotiation.

  • I say take the deal. After 19 years of seeing letter carriers and rsmc’s get everything it is about time it stops. Every job has its ups and downs. Not one group is better than the next. Just because people work inside or in retail does not mean their job is not as hard. I would love to see a letter carrier do a 8 full hours of running a ocr or being stuck unloading a 53 foot trailer with no heater or fan. How about they go to pubs and ads and lift all those tubs every day. Like I said every job at Canada Post has its ups and downs. CUPW executives take the deal.

    • You’re right, there are good and bad days in every section of Canada Post. LCs simply need to follow line of travel, work safely and take their breaks. Presto, they’ll be working 8 hour days soon enough. It’s not that hard to figure out.

    • But every job is available to you if your seniority allows. In order to make everything work we have to listen to each other and trust each other. This is not an exercise in who is better or worse off. I worked on a green chain back in the day and believe me that is real physical labour.

    • Working inside DOES make your job easier. It is absolutely absurd that inside workers are even in our union. Separate union and 10 dollar an hour pay cut is a good start in my opinion.

      • It is horrible that you think you’re better than anyone else. Working inside does not make it better. It’s people like you that should have a pay cut. Where is the equality for ALL?

        • Captain obvious

          You are missing the point altogether which is exactly that. There should not be equality for all! They are completely different jobs. They are not equal and should not be compensated like they are!

  • letter carriers are destroyed if this goes thru

  • getting rid of lcuc just screwed you guys over.

  • Doesn’t effect us plant workers so we are good. Sucks to be a LC!

  • We already rejected offer #1.
    Take this second offer and let’s move on. Yes, it has some flaws, but it also has some good benefits..
    The Union and management will never decide on a decent agreement..Let the workers decide which is best..

    • We’ve all lost so much money already. CUPW will not get a better deal. If we walk out again, it will be for nothing. Just like last time. The only positive is that the government won’t let it go on as long this time. We hope Lol.

  • Take the offer.

  • lousy offer. group 2 is gutted.

  • CUPW is starting the strike tonight at midnight thursday 12:00am. The whole friday thing was to throw corpse off.

  • Retired postie

    I think the union will accept this. They have zero cards to play now. They know they are sinking and hopefully they will not take the entire crew down with them. I think the union will finally understand that they have lost, they will walk away with their tails between their legs and just hope to stay around to fight another day.

  • Unfortunately we have to take this offer, I cannot afford to miss anymore days! If management didn’t flinch at Christmas then they most definitely won’t now. If we get arbitrated back we will get less than this offer.

  • removing per piece flyer pay, and increasing wages by 1.5% isn’t a very deft sleight of hand.

    these people (the executive team) really do think you’re stupid.

    • Yes, it’s almost as if Canada Post’s negotiating team is smarter than CUPWs. The union keeps fighting battles it can’t win while the workers keep losing thousands in wages every time we’re outside. Is it possible for CUPW to get into the real world?

    • Not sure what you’re talking about. The wage increases would be; 6%, 3%, 2%, and 2%, a compound increase 13.5%. That’s not 1.5%. The flyer money would be replaced by time-values for flyers. That’s what CUPW has been requesting for years. Misinformation doesn’t help anyone.

  • I wish the feds would just force a vote for the membership…and monitor it as well so as to stop the cupw steal!!

  • What percentage of members in favour of this offer are actually letter carriers? The supervisors don’t even realize some routes don’t go out until late afternoon, how do you expect to implement different mail delivery routes daily? It’ll be a mess and won’t work. They’ll never give anyone help but constantly give extra work until they break you. Imagine you have no set hours and you’re walking different parts of the town you have never been to before every other day. Otherwise I don’t care about one percent more or less pay raise. Also get rid of the current management. They obviously mismanaged this corporation. They call you a flatbed for a flat tire. 400$ service for a flat tire! This is how they manage!

    • Letter carriers and walking routes are obsolete, one cmb route with a van can deliver the same volume of 4 employees, 3 carriers with smaller walking routes and one cus driver delivering parcels cuz they don’t fit in ur satchel. It’s just fact.

  • If management read/understood/followed our collective agreement there would be way less grievances and therefore more money for Canada Post. If our jobs didn’t get harder and harder each restructure then new hires might be staying instead of quitting because the job is way tougher than they thought. Canada Post would then save money on training.

  • As a 30 year employee I see no reason to not accept this offer. Fail to do so will result in the complete closure of Canada Post within 5 years.

  • Ok that’s all the intelligence I can handle between CPC and CUPW. Now I’m gonna watch real housewives of …….now that’s what I call intelligence. Woo

  • Go for …. I’m in favour

  • Strike now my foolish sisters and brothers

    Cupw needs more time to look over the offer. Which means more money for executives,managers,negotiators,presidents,shareholders. Oh yeah,less money for workers.

  • CUPW, if you cannot take care of your current members now, then you really don’t need to worry about future members anymore since CP will go bankrupt and we all lose our jobs. Better yet, no one will pay your already crazy high union dues! Remember, all your members have families to support and bills to pay. We cannot afford to go on strike again, let us vote on our future not you CUPW!!

  • Take this offer , the neb is holding the work force hostage with their over the top demands, it’s time for change in this company, we had a good run , this offer is the best thing we’ve scene , don’t screw this up national

    • Rhe demands CAME FROM THE WORK FLOOR

      • Chester Whipplefilter

        Nobody on the work floor was asking for postal banking and justice for janitors.

        Stop drinking the CUPW cool aid. It’s tainted and well past its expiration date.

        Goose is cooked. Accept the offer and move on.

        Maybe next time, just stick to wages and extended health benefits.

  • take the deal!

    Let us vote, this is a way better offer than anything else we’ve seen! CUPW put it to a vote! If they won’t, Canada post make it a final offer and get government approval to put it to a vote. We want to work!

    • I Agree 100%!

    • Totally agree. I will accept the offer if there is a vote which I hope is administered by a neutral third-party as I do NOT trust our union (sadly).

  • Frustrated and fed up

    Would everyone quit saying it’s a good offer!! It’s not a good offer, BUT it is the best offer we are going to get at this time! If we strike, or get locked out, we will be begging for this offer in a month! Nobody wins in a strike, and times are definitely changing. As much as I don’t like it, we have to take this offer!!!

    • You’re right, the offer has downsides as well. But it does give a good wage increase and preserves pension and benefits. It even brings new employees back into the DB plan, that’s a big deal. I also agree that it’s impossible to get a better deal if we strike again. We’ll lose thousands more, on top of rhe thousands we’ve already all lost. Time for CUPW to wake up and face reality.

      • Exactly!! Well said. If they don’t accept this we’ll end up getting far less and possibly lose our jobs in the near future. Wake up CUPW! Stop gambling with our jobs.

        • you can bet you that once a deal is reached there will be cuts to CUPW far and wide.

  • Part-time workers for weekend delivery? And during the week? Haven’t they looked at what’s going on with the USPS? The part-timers’s have been stealing (read up on it) And don’t be fooled (they will be gig workers). Stopping full-time postal workers from doing ot.
    And it seems Canada Post has turned down the 2 week delay, that the union wanted, to look over the offer.

    • What are you talking about? Canada Post has always had part-time LCs. This is necessary for the company’s survival. No matter what CUPW wishes, we’re no longer in the 1970s. We exist in 2025, just like our competitors.

    • Retired postie

      You are delusional. Just reread what you wrote and look at it from the point of view of another reader. You sre the reason for Canada Post failure.

  • Injurys are up on any ssd stn
    ..mngmt would never admit it though!

  • Id like to see a plant worker come and try a lettercarriers workload.!…theyd be running back to the plant in no time!

  • They want to take away whats left of the flyer money we were still getting..
    Also they want to ad portions of other rtes on ones day…how is that good?
    As for the comment on doing an 8 hr day….outside work is 10 times more dangerous than the inside work…thats the payment for finishing early…

    • Where else can you work that you work 5 hours get paid 8 hours?The inside workers aren’t allowed to go home after 5 hours and get paid for 8…then lap up OT doing another route? If its so back breaking (which I’m not saying it wouldn’t be) how can y’all do OT NO PROBLEM 🙄

      • So true, and just disgusting.

      • its not back breaking, there are some letter carriers being paid 36 hours in 1 day. 3 routes being completed within 8 hours. First route at 1.0x pay, second route at 1.5x pay, and 3rd route at 2x pay. Calculate that, and help me understand how a letter carrier can do 36 hours worth of work in 8 hours. CUPW and its members are the reason CPC is going to go bankrupt. Cuts are coming soon enough get ready.

        • The LCs are mad because the gravy train is over…You ever see them all come in at Xmas on OT all smiles on a Sat or Sunday? I’ve always worked weekends inside and now oh my God how dare they want weekend work?!😡

  • They taking away flyer money with dynamic routing? That’s a kick in the teeth. That’s like 5% of our wage.
    Everything else looks good though

    • I will be aggressively asking people to red dot in that case. Its about 15% of my pay.

      • Dang, 15% pay cut. I hope your facility doesn’t get hit with the first wave of dynamic routing. I was thinking that most letter carriers would just red dot everything if there was no incentive to deliver flyers. 90 percent of customers don’t care if they get flyers or not.

  • Let’s walk

    • No.
      You can walk.
      I am going to cross the picket line.

    • No thanks. I already lost $7000 in part-one of the strike. If you’d like to lose thousands more only to have CUPW lose again, you’re deluded. Canada Post has to change. Every intelligent worker knows this. Another strike will accomplish nothing, as usual.

      • How did you lose $7000 in a month???
        Exaggerate much?

        • It’s not hard to calculate. 2023 t4 earnings were75,000, 2024 earnings were 68,000. That’s $7000 less. Check your own T4 tomfind out how much less you made due to the strike. Please remember that time of year normally has a lot of overtime, even double-time weekend work (although that’s going away in the future). If you’re happy to lose thousands more for nothing, I’m sure you’ll be happy to walk out on Friday.

          • I am MORE than happy to walk out on Friday! And you’re talking gross pay….youve already lost half of that to taxes, pension, union dues, benefits, etc. Try to not exaggerate your loses, you may be taken more seriously, maybe.

        • Wow, as an RSMC, I’d LOVE your paycheck!!

      • Losing $7000 income in a month………………explains clearly why Canada Post has to stand their ground on a fair and affordable offer, with logical adjustments that provide flexible delivery options that customers expect and deserve. Do we all want to have a company left so that we actually keep our jobs. $7000 a month is unfortunately not unusual, given the overtime paid for delivering partial routes, in addition to your own route that you complete on 4-5 hours max. Most people in the real world do not believe this to be true. It is so ludicrous, they suspect it is a joke. It is a joke. Just not a funny one. How about you go be a firefighter or paramedic. You should be embarrassed.

  • They can’t even get routes right that have been made for 5+ years. Now they want to have new routes built daily?!!! The people in charge of this company should all be fired. Start the postal banking system again. France and Japan fund their post offices via their successful postal banking businesses. SSD is costing the company more money than the previous system, and there are mail backups, parcels not getting delivered on time, more people doing the work, more injuries. When will the government come in and stop blaming the workers and axe the top half of the company. We are bloated in upper and middle management who have been running this business into the ground. Stop blaming the workforce for the terrible management.

    • I agree!!!

    • Exactly! I can imagine any bunch of supervisors creating equal load of work for everyone 5 days a week every morning. They don’t even realize some routes don’t go out until late afternoon. This people were selling fridges in Best Buy, receiving produce in wal mart a few months earlier. What do they k ow about measuring routes. All this people cheering about this latest offer working inside! Nothing changes for them

    • That’s right , I guess someone from RSMC should take charge of the management and do their work. Canada Post will flourish and be a cash printing machine!

    • Emperor Palpatine

      The problem with routes being wrong is failure to update your route with changes. Stop being lazy and take the time to keep your route updated.

  • Cupw has asked for a two week extension to think over offer…CP refused. Take the offer!!

    • If there intention was clear. CUPW would have agreed to it immediately but they want 2 week to “think about it”. “think about it” is more like I will try to take more from you. Choose your side Canada because it is your tax payers money going into that.

      • Taxpayers do NOT pay a penny into Canada Post! It is self-funded. We have NOTHING to do with taxpayer money.

        • Well, except for that one billion dollar injection last year. You know, to cover all our losses, year after year. You know that government money is taxpayer money, right?

  • This a great offer, much
    better than I anticipated from CPC given recent proposals
    WE DESERVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE ON THIS
    Dues are paid for representation of the individual & the majority; I am sick & tired of being held hostage by CUPW executive & the minority. Moves that further entrench 1970’s tactics by not ratifying this offer will prove
    to be an irretrievable loss for CUPW members

  • I am sick and tired of this nonsense. CUPW is holding us all hostage. This is a fair offer all things considered! Since CPC has denied the extension, we must take this offer asap.

  • Cupw don't bleep it up

    The countdown is on. CPC rejects Cupw two week pause to study CPC latest offer. Only have til Thursday May 22 for Cupw to accept or reject. Friday morning ready to work or ready to strike.

    • Very smart move by Canada Post. The pressure is all on CUPW now. This offer is decent but not perfect. Pensions and benefits are protected. New employees go into the DB plan. That’s a huge win. The wage offer is not bad. The way we deliver must change. CUPW has to accept that, as most intelligent LCs know. This is definitely not worth going on strike over. We all lost thousands in Part-One. CUPW can’t possibly win, so it’s time to wake up!

  • No matter if CUPW take this offer or leave it, the damage is done! All of this has been too much for the public to tolerate. I am at the point where prefer a golden handshake and move on to work with folks who accept the true worth of their labour, based on education required to perform the work. Seems CUPW feel they are worth more than our health care workers and others who we all take for granted. Shameful.

  • funny how most comments are positive on here and overwhelmingly negative on any other forum or post i am seeing from actually CUPW members.. CP trolls are working hard

    • Retired postie

      What other forums are there. You will not answer because you have no answer.

      • I will answer thx. Reddit

        “Retired postie”. No touching the pension so you’re good. Yet give us a 13% raise and take away my flyer pay which can be upwards of 15% of my pay. Brilliant move.

    • That’s because people on the cup W forms that go and post their actual thoughts get slammed and are not welcome and are ridiculed, they are made to feel inferior bullied and picked on if they don’t follow the belief that the moderator have you’re not allowed an opinion on a cup W forum

    • That’s because all the chats/blogs are CUPW sanctioned & administratored, typically dominated by Kool-Aid drinking ‘stuck in the past’ diehard union groupies. That if any negative comments get made, the posters are ridiculed and shot down. In most case real names are used so there a tendency not to express your true opinions. On here 90% of comments are anonymous, including yours.

    • How do u know who’s a real CUPW member? Are you a psychic? Or do you think that no real CUPW member would thin that the union has done a bad job? Most of us are hard working members and do not want to lose any more money in another useless strike. Please wake up and get into reality.

    • You wish
      Try to accept the fact that yours is not the only opinion. We have been down this road before – there is no CPC pot of gold at the end of another strike rainbow
      Maybe you haven’t been around long enough to have learned the hard way that we will most assuredly AGAIN wind up in binding arbitration & stuck with a contract far uglier than what is on offer. I would like a choice in whether or not I once more cut off my nose to spite my face because CUPW ideals dictate that

      • Arbitration has never been good for us. I am a letter carrier, and have been through this a few times now. This may not be the greatest deal as someone suggested, but that person is correct: this will be the best one that we can get. Take it. Quit holding us hostage.

  • Great offer from a company thats broke. No more room to move which is why they are not allowing 2 weeks to review-just stalling tactics. CUPW wont take it or they lose face. Gonna be a strike happening my bet. Next offer if there is one will be less as that CUPW will be begging for it.

  • Can the union please let us vote on this offer! Times change. Quit negotiating like this is 1985. When are you going to stop sacrificing currently employees and the very future of the post office for part time workers. This is ridiculous.

  • Postie who wants to vote!

    Canada Post/CUPW – Please let us vote on this offer!
    If the union tries to stand in the way, get government approval to present it to membership to vote on, we want a say and we want to work!!

    • fed up with this

      100% agree

    • Retired postie

      The union counts the votes behind the scenes. Has this never been noticed by cupw members. You are where you are because you have no guts to stand up to these people. Why are these votes and all votes counted behind the scenes. Seriously. This crap gas been going on for years. Cupw executives think you are stupid and can not make the best decisions. This has been going on for 30 years. Demand that the vote be counted in front of you or a lawyer.

      • Yep and throw out the ones not agreeing with them! After years of complaining by members,they finally allowed “impartial” people handpicked by them to watch the count! Lol!

  • OK I’m in with a $2000 signing bonus!!!

  • With the SSD we must work with double bundle. No chance to collate the admail with the mail…

  • Please take the offer !!

  • All may be well, acceptable with the exemption of the SSD. I believe we can live with the rest of the offer. NO SSD!

    • Give it up, no one is willing to strike over SSD, the company is not going back on that one

    • SSD has been around for years now, it’s not getting canceled. CUPW needs to quit fighting things they’ve already lost.

  • Please make this a final offer and force it to a vote. Employees are being held hostage not having a say in all this. It’s actually madness

  • Take it, call it a win and congratulate yourselves. You’re the only union left to have defined benefit pensions for future employees. Heck, I might transfer over to cupw next time there is a local vacancy just to get that pension.

    • Amen..

    • The pension isn’t that good if you look at the actual numbers. Maybe good if someone has 30 years pensionable as a Full Timer.

    • The pension is not great, but it is not bad either. It’s … a pension at least. I agree with you, though, take it.

  • Let us vote now! This CUPW negotiation committee needs to be replaced

  • Just had a lawyer friend look over the offer and overall it is in best interest of everyone to have Cupw ratify it and let the employees vote on it.

    • Did the lawyer know that the ‘poor financial’ condition of the corporation is because the management made the decisions?

      *and still got their bonuses*

      • Bonus were part of their contract for job performances, nothing every management personnel received them.

      • management got bonuses, and so has cupw since the beginning of Canada Post’s time. You work 3 hours and get paid 8 hours every single day. that is a bonus much greater than the bonus that MGT employees get, consider yourself lucky. Thank god SSD is being implemented, I cannot wait to see how many of you fall like flies.

  • This a good and fair deal, considering the situation we all face. Take the offer and let’s move forward.

    • Well, it’s actually crap, but it’s the best that they are going to offer. It’s not like everyone sends cheques through the mail anymore. The $103 million worth of salary employees are relying on it (not counting supervisors and superintendents).

  • 2 points,is Cupw smart enough to realize this is a fair offer. We get a increase in wages and more importantly we don’t lose what we have. And will Cupe allow us to ratify this offer or will they be dictators.

  • fed up with this

    Let us vote now.

  • Pretty good offer! Now sign the deal! Hopefully we will be allowed to vote on this , we want to decide our future not CUPW!

  • CUPW sign this offer now.

  • Take it and run!!!

  • Went up 1% in wage offer, flex working conditions???? No thanks, I’d like to see the actual language not the highlights. What is hidden in there.

  • Letter carrier

    Please, union, don’t refuse it. It’s a good offer.

  • Let’s getter done make it the finale offer and book a place to vote instead of 56.20 a day strike pay

  • If CUPW doesn’t take this offer, I think its time to privatize Canada Post and let everyone work for a private company and then think that maybe it wasn’t the right thing to do!

  • Will full-time letter carriers still get 40 hours a week, no matter what?

    • Of course. That’s the definition of full-time. The difference is, they’ll now have to work 8 hours a day. The same as inside workers always have done.

    • There are not many letter carrier’s that work the full 40 hours per week that they are actually paid for. Part of the reason they are not happy. They are now expected to work an 8 hour day like most of us do. They have been doing this for years. No surprise Canada Post has no money.

  • Good offer. Accept it CUPW

  • Good offer. We have to take it.

  • CUPW, this is a solid offer! Let us vote!!

    • What is the offer exactly?

    • Yes I agree, the offer is reasonable. Of course there are some concessions: dynamic routing is coming whether we like it or not. Overall the wage increase is decent, pensions and benefits are protected. Workers must be allowed a vote on this offer. CUPW has no more leverage and they can’t win. Change has to happen for our company to survive.

  • I think the union believes The federal government will fund any deficits. Maybe they should ask. Because the last time I looked they received a loan not a grant.

  • Take the damn offer cupw

    Had a 5 yrs old read for me. Believes offer is not great,but it is fair for everyone ,should be accepted.Let’s hope cupw is as smart as a 5 yr old

  • Cupw would be stupid to refuse.

  • Good offer

  • Retired postie

    Only an idiot would turn this offer down!

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