Jobs Minister requests Canada Post and CUPW return to negotiations
June 4, 2025, 02:02 pm
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Following today’s request from the Minister of Jobs and Families, Canada Post is ready to quickly return to the negotiations table and engage with the Canadian Union of Postal Workers (CUPW) with the assistance of Federal mediators.
Our goal remains to reach a timely and fair resolution that begins to respond to the significant challenges we face, helps us better serve the modern delivery needs of Canadians and respects our employees.
The preferred path forward to address these issues has always been through a negotiated settlement. After 18 months at an impasse, all options must be considered to address these critical priorities, including an employee directed vote.
We are therefore ready to discuss these matters with CUPW with the urgency that’s required and look forward to receiving the union’s response to our final offer, which we presented on May 28, 2025.
Canada Post’s final offers
Details about our final offers to CUPW-represented employees are available at canadapost.ca/offers.
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Concerning the seatbelt survelance…of course for long distances…busy streets …departure and driving back to stn…of course i wear my seatbelt….talking about very short distances on very quite streets while delivering…its a waste of time!!!
One of the rgueing points for the dhl workers is the survelance…and i just despise my supervise coming up to me to tell me im not wearing my seat belt on on short trips!
If I want to ship parcels and I see Canada Post can’t be trusted. Purolator which is owned by Canada Post can’t be trusted .DHL locked out workers on June 8.All that’s left is Fed Ex and Ups. Two delivery companies for all of Canada. I cant afford either one. Thanks for increasing my stress and losing faith in delivery system.
According to cpc we have no parcels to deliver anymore so should not be a problem for other couriers. Im sure when cpc executives told amazon we are unable to handle their volume that had nothing to with driving corporation into the ground either. Another round of bonuses for the cpc execs. Excellent work!
Do not make personal attacks.Do not use defamatory obscene or inflammatory language. Read full comment policy. I m not allowed to do any of the above,so what else is left?
Let’s take a look at a few things here. Weekend delivery is gonna have to happen in order for Canada Post to exist and us to have a very good job. If it takes part-time people to make that happen so be it. Why is the union. Worrying about contact cleaners cleaning? They are not their/our responsibility! A 5 minute paid handwashing? Really? Is this an actual problem? We are supposed to be adults. Wash your hands on your own time. I could could go on but why bother? The union is letting membership, CPC, and more and most importantly Canadians. CUPW heads should be ashamed of themselves however that takes a conscience doesn’t it?
DHL CANADA locks out employees June 8. Public relations nightmare. CANADA POST too smart to do something so stupid. Public relations matters to CANADA POST.
I agree that the union does some things that infuriate members. CPC does some things that do as well. Whether you’ve been employed here for 30 years or just in the process of being hired, you have a choice. If you don’t agree with any part of it, you can choose to leave, or put up with the things you don’t agree with and stay. Some of the comments here are clearly not cupw members and some are. Some are not either and just random people having fun and stirring up the pot.
Clear Medical Imaging has just settled the same type of dispute that we are going through. It takes time and may be the new way to bargain with some companies. CPC does not care how much money it loses. The more they can not give us, the bigger the bonus they can give themselves. As soon as we settle they will be telling us that we are” the backbone” of the company. How our safety is important to them. “Make it home safe”. Lol
White elephant means expensive to maintain and has very little use. I’ll let you list the number of companies and or people who fall into this category.
In my 20 years arbitration has never been worse then the final offer from CPC. For all u worried about not voting, cupw prolly saved u from accepting this offer and when u realize the arbitrated contract turned out better u can pull or foot out ur mouths.
The complete opposite has happens the last 20 years. Stop drinking the kook aid. I bet you think budgets balance themselves
Not sure which is more intriguing, watching cpc and cupw fight or Musk and Donald. Could go either way. Time for me to get a life.
Hopefully the bridging of people close to retirement will happen, it was mentioned in the Kaplan report. No layoffs needed then.
There will be a happy ending. Cpc and cupw will live in harmony.
Us old people that have worked for CPC for 25 years or more were hoping for some kind of a financial buy out. Instead they threatened to charge us more for benefits if we didn’t clear out by January 2026. That is what our lives mean to them. Last week the safety talk was on mental stress and depression. Cause we care.
Hudson Bay. Simpsons ,Eaton,Sears,Woolco Woolworth.Consumers Distributing. Byway,Bargain Harold’s,Honest Ed’s,Beaver Lumber Towers,Bata Shoes. Just some of the retailers who have left the Canadian landscape. Still have Canadian Tire,Shoppers Drugmart and..Canada Post. Who will be next?
Wow. Thats a trip down memory lane. Sad and scary.
What?
Well Canadian Tire and Shoppers are $$$ makers so that leaves one…and to the naysayers…CPC is a crown corp and a branch of the govt…it is meant to be a $$$ maker not just a handout like the freeloaders think
How many of you really believe any of your comments make a difference to cpc cupw or anyone else for that matter
It makes a difference because you responded and it offended the union because we are free to expose them for who they are.. So yes, we make a difference and the more you look for attention to that matter means it’s working.. Have a nice day…
Who is putting down cupw? Canada Post executives? The problem here is, you don’t know who is behind the comments.
Doesn’t matter, CUPW does not give us the freedom to speak nor do they provide forum for us to vent our opinions, and I know CUPW trolls this page, go on their site they mentioned it there.. Booo CUPW, we want to vote…. You out..!!
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No us CUPW members who do not want to lose our jobs because CUPW is stuck in the 80s and asking for ridiculous things
The people posting here could have no affiliation to cupw or cpc, they could be here to simply stir the pot, sit back, and watch the show
It made a difference since you are here reading comments.
That is why unions were developed. A single drop of water doesn’t fill up a pail. If we stay united, we can make a difference .
We sure could if it was the 70s or 80s but CUPW cant seem to get out of that time warp! Times are changing whether we like it or not!
Single drop of water does not fill a pale.How about a bleeding wound left unstitched?????
I find it funny cpc asked the workers to vote on final contract. Cupw wouldn’t let the workers vote. Should be other way around. But cupw has no respect for the workers . So it is obvious we as workers need to continue supporting cupw ,right?
Exactly, CUPW doesn’t respect the workers and CPC was willing to see our response. We had 4 offers and the 2 before the strike the union kept secret, like their demands, no one knows what they’re asking for but they’re willing to risk our jobs and piss off Canadians.
we will have an opportunity to vote very soon, by an independent, it was in the news earlier this week
We will never undermine the criteria to achieve a fair settlement says Cupw president. No matter how long it takes and continue having workers pay union dues. And visit Cuba .
I think you’ve summed up CUPW perfectly. Two contracts settled without a strike or lock-out since 1965. Truly the worst record of any union in Canada.
And they’re proud of it!
Let CUPW members vote and stop wasting time, energy and money.
I agree, let us decide not arbitration..
While we all sit in limbo, CUPW is planning their next trip to Cuba for a job well done screwing the membership again, the same people going to Niagara falls every month to to party and get drunk, way to go CUPW, you should be ashamed of Yourselves not letting us vote and pushing arbitration. If we lose signing Bonus you should pay the membership all their dues back for the 2.5years negotiations being stalled by you bozos. The Biggest joke and causing us to lose jobs, lose business and make the letter carriers suffer is CUPW.. but I guess solidarity for the brainwashed
Hey CUPW, what do you say about opening a comments section on your website??
What are you afraid of??
We all know they’re afraid of the truth, no one wants them, that’s why they don’t let us vote on any of the offers.. They won’t even show us their counter offers which have hidden agenda and profit scamming suggestions for their pockets. CUPW will not let us speak and we have bozos who believe they care about us.. unbelievable
Thank you Hudson Bay for surviving over 300 yrs In business. How many retailers can say that. But everything eventually must come to an end. Except the inability of cpc and cupw to come to an agreement. Maybe just maybe one day this to shall end. Cross fingers . Again thank you Hudson Bay for the memories and enriching the Canadian retail landscape.
What upsets me the most is the truly iconic 100% canadian hudsons bay was owned by americans. Cant help but think they didnt care one bit about saving it. Take the money and run. Just my unrelated to this comment section opinion.
I look around and it seems there are agreements made between mgmt and union. Public transit,teachers, public servents ,etc all have contracts. So explain why cupw and cpc after how many years still don’t have contract and looks like going to arbitration. Don’t use too many big words ,I was a manager ,demoted to supervisor now p04 .
Simple organisations you mentioned have not been losing money year after year and are relevant to today’s society.On the other hand canada post is a white elephant and cupw has its head in the sand.Next thing they will suggest is Canadapost reopen blockbuster and make money
Lol!
Actually they many of those companies have being struggling.
Hudson’s Bay has been losing money for some time
Bonnie Brooks was appointed CEO in 2008 and until 2013 she did an amazing job with her turn-around plan. She was pushed out in 2013. Going public and trying to modernize was their demise and they continued to lose money. They blame it on post pandemic down turn in business and trade tariffs
The teachers were forced into a 1% pay cap by heavy handed government. They stood together and fought it because it is unconstitutional. They won and got huge retroactive payments. It took years but they didn’t just roll over like scared dogs. They united and were heard.
Yes the teachers fought and won because they are relevant to today’s society they are skilled and qualified and their demands were reasonable…cupw fails on all counts
I don’t know if my comments ever get posted. So just keep everyone aware. I am still available for gainful employment. Ex Leafs president.
We will never undermine our determination to keep members from knowing what is going on . Pretending to care about our members is what makes Cupw a great union.
Finally got around to watching cpccupw on the radio. I have to admit I don’t believe I’ve ever seen more smart people in my life.
This is my first comment so I apologize if I come across as a cupw and cpc bafoon.
Recently sent a text message to cupw and cpc president giving them the opportunity to take me with them on their next trip to Cuba. Waiting for response
Your name says it all, it is what everyone thinks.
Who are you..? If you’re not part of the company, leave… Your opinion means nothing.. and no one is overpaid except those who’ve maxed their pensions and pay not to the rest of our pensions..
hahaha , good luck
When binding Arbitration is cpmplete us workers will live a agreement that looks like this….Buy one can tuna,buy one loaf bread from clearance shelf buy one carton milk. No not all three just one item that’s it!
It will be everything with an expired date Thanks to CUPW…
Cupw has a long expired due date.
How many of you are still letting cpc and cupw dictate your lives? You have the power not them. They want to destroy your emotions ,spirit and finances. Don’t let em! Have some bleep damnit!
I got 2 words for you. Binding Arnitration. Pick cpc offer or Pick cupw offer. Either way the workers have no say ,no voice no vote. Arbitrator lawyer will decide and we learn to live with it. I hope my union dues increase and my demacratic rights decrease. Cheers.
I am available for overtime. And trips to Cuba. Former Leaf president
Looking for donations financial from cupw and cpc to pay for my up coming vacation. All inclusive to Cuba Niagara and Ottawa . Pls call 1 800 cupwcpc and thank you
We in Toronto plant have invited any members of cupw to visit and talk openly and honestly about the negotiations. As of this comment June 6 ,no one has shown up..yet. I believe this will continue. I have worked in other union environments and they were all transparent . I left cause money and benefits are better at Canada Post. Infact Cpc mgmt has talked to the workers more. Anywho,maybe I should give my union dues to Canada Post.
This must be a record for two parties cpc and cupw to negotiate for over 2 and a half years on and off and still no agreement. No other negotiations have taken that long. It takes a tremendous amount of skill and talent not to mention intellect to be that pathetic.
I will comment when there is an agreement.
Keep stalling CUPW, after 2.5 years of delays and multiple trips to Cuba and Niagara falls, just forcing arbitration is like forcing government to privatize, what a joke, no other union has ever taken this long to negotiate then push for arbitration because you’re a bunch of losers.. Solidarity for union dues being wasted at 5 star hotels in Ottawa for negotiations, while people don’t know if they’ll have a job..
Agree!!
Again with the Cuba talk lol
Because it’s true, you living in the Stone age.. Do your research, CUPW also part of Communist party of Canada, also you will see how they’re sending out dues to Cuba.. what are you brand new..??
33 years in, not new, the union bashing has gone on forever. If you’re unhappy with it, you have a choice, stay or leave
Apparently cpc and cupw have both made their best offer for arbitration. Not reaching a deal ,but arbitration.shows you where their mindsets are at. Mediator picks one or the other. Done. No adjustments. No counters. No changes. Most of the time Cpc offer is chosen.
CUPW is responsible for us losing again and pushing arbitration.. The worst union imaginable and the thought of those that support them is even more disturbing.. 2.5years of wasted union dues on trips to Cuba, and Niagara falls monthly, plus expensive dinners in the Ottawa hotel they’re staying at stalling negotiations..
CUPW has to go…
Hey it’s the Cuba guy again!
Look it’s the NEB cronie covering up their Cuba trips and Niagara falls parties..
You are clearly making this up. What type of arbitration did the parties agree on?
No your wrong, most( no, all) of the time we get less than what’s offered!!
Maybe look up how arbitration works, they don’t just pick one of the offers it ends up in the middle. Must be new, cuz it’s gone to arbitration everytime in the last 20 years, and not once has the final deal been what cpcs last offer was. Cheers.
Northern Ontario has wildfires also its not only western Canada. Us in the GTA have to the smoke traffic and barley make enough and a lathe part of Canada post employees live here.
Looking forward to the rotating strikes where CUPW doesn’t have to pay strike pay.
clearly you are either management or did not participate during the strike in november/december
U get strike pay if ur local is one of the rotating strike spots. Good to see ur informed. Also I highly doubt we see any further strike action.
You don’t get strike pay for striking one day a week during rotating strikes and that is exactly what is up next in the CUPW plan
So are we in arbitration and does that mean we can’t be locked out or strike on the street? Are we safe at this point?
Union is broke, there will be no strike.. Only corporation can lock us out at this point… Another CUPW win, pushing arbitration which they said they would never do in the past.. Bunch of neanderthals
Thats a good question. I dont know either. In my time at cpc ( 30 years plus) ive never seen this before. It was always strike/lockout, order back to work.
We are not in arbitration at this time, from what I understand from the press, the Canadian Industrial Relations Board has been appointed as an independent party to have the CUPW members vote on CPC’s best and final offer. They will also be the ones to count the votes. CUPW and CPC will not know how you vote, both will receive the results of the counted ballots.
Is this a joke? The Union included this website in its complaint to the CLB because CPC has an open forum and giving us updates…well CUPW start your own open forum…oh wait we are NOT ALLOWED to give an opinion unless we are with them 100% last time i looked I was sure it said Canada is a DEMOCRATIC country🇨🇦
💯, union won’t let us talk, complain about us on here voicing our opinions..Just like CUPW not allowing us to vote, they know the membership is against these games they’re playing.. Bunch of circus clowns in CUPW
True… but the union is communist.
Correct.
To all of us. Stop being so damn selfish cause the offer isn’t everything you want. Cause your lives are imperfect. Think of all the people in Western Canada who just lost everything thanks to wildfires. Be grateful for what you have cause I’m sure those folks would love switch places with you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you so much for saying this! Its true everyone is so greedy on here especially a certain bunch…To lose your home and livelihood due to fires is beyond tragic…to lose a home and livelihood due to our ridiculous union is moronic…Way to go CUPW keep it up
What does this have to do with negotiations..? You looking for attention..? The membership wants to vote and CUPW does NOT allow us, go look for the Alberta fires forum, this is CPC site, we all feel sorry for those that suffer in Alberta but don’t change the subject, stop pretending you care what’s going on in the membership, you must be a NEB cronie
You have to admit it highly entertaining the idiosity that cupw and cpc provide. Almost as exciting as watching the shopping network. Almost.
I m glad both sides are talking again. Who knows maybe a deal will be reached. Yaa and I’m gonna win the lottery. Lol
Up to now,om fortunate to be employed by Canada Post. I pretty good wage,assume benefits ,paid vacations ,job I like. So thank both cpc and cupw for giving me some happiness in my life. There are people who don’t have anything. Let’s all remember that. You could be worse off
Union has always made it worse, we could’ve had a contract months ago, they now choose us to lose signing Bonus so we can blame post office, for another CUPW failure
Comments should only pertain to Cpc and Cupw. No other other comments are relevent since the for mentioned are hard up and desperate for attention.
Is there a rally this wknd? Will coffee be provided? Should I start looking into getting life instead making these grade 3 level comments?
Go look for a job, CUPW pushing this whole thing into privatization..If you support them, you’re part of the problem..
Smart people will never comment because they have better things to do . I am not smart so I make comment.
Way to go CUPW
Hello,
What are the main issues that the CUPW negotiator’s are all hung up on in refusing to let the membership vote? How could members possibly make an informed decision in voting for the contract when CUPW provides us with no information.
The national negotiating executive are complete failures in representing its members. You would think they could provide us with clear and concise information as to why they won’t allow us to vote on this deal.
I mean really they could hire a professional media spokesperson for the amount of money they steal from us every month. Are you listening CUPW? Maybe you could quit going on union due paid junkets to places like Cuba and actually look after you’re members best interests.
They have provided the issues go to cupw website, load leveling and flex deliver to start.
Those issues were created by CUPW. They allowed Georoute to make the routes long and with incorrect values while they try and barter with the householder pay for the letter carriers, thinking they will get time values proper.. CUPW doesn’t care about the carriers, also bringing in the RSMCS was a mistake.. Anything to screw negotiations up is CUPW specialty.
We will not make any attacks or name calling against cpc and cupw in those days that end in letter Y.
CUPW wont let their members vote. They know it would be a yes in favour of Canada Post’s final offer.
Have you seen the 700+ pages??
dont support the union at all.
You should quit then
Don’t let the door hit you on the way out to your new job
The door is going to hit everyone when they close the doors for GOOD! Happy job hunting! Good luck getting jobs elsewhere because no one will hire CUPW groupies
According to the similar posts, the sky is falling and the ship goes down either way. I do NOT wish that to happen ,BUT, if it truly does go down, I rather go down fighting as opposed to cowering in the corner. FYI… many have had a secondary income stream for years because many are unable to afford to live on CPC pittance and saw the writing on the walls long ago. Might be wise to brush up the resume instead of pointing fingers out here
we havent seen a union member in months. They could even get the morning shift to come and picket, only afternoon shift came out in support. but now i wonder that support costed us a months worth of salary was the strike really needed and what did it accomplish. Its sad union needs to go…
Just want to thank both CPC and CUPW for playing with our lives,livelihoods and sense of security. Not to mention stress,emotional hardship and financial concerns. I see evil is alive in both your souls
For the person who made the comment about people in Western Canada surviving wildfires. Thank You. There’s millions of Canadians who are thinking of you and wish you peace and safety quickly. Cpc and Cupw did any of you think about those people in Western Canada and their strife? Oh that’s right you too busy playing childlike games to give a damn.
Hum. Ahhh. Hum.. well, huh. Duh,,duh, blah. This is typical conversation between Cupw and Cpc.
Thank to CUPW here we are again, they’re all hurt by the comments we can leave about them here, but refuse to create a forum where we can have our voices heard. Millions of dollars stolen monthly by CUPW and no transparency. No negotiations documents showed to any of the membership, ask yourself why..? Also ask yourself why the union is afraid of us voting when legally under the labour code we have the right to see all offers, and counter offers that CUPW refuses to show us. They take our money and go on trips in the middle of negotiations should tell you how much they care about us. CUPW cares about their pockets not our demands, none of the national can deliver a whole route or even work on a machine inside the plant. Also where’s our president..? Sitting on the couch writing letters instead of listening to our concerns, let us Vote, legally we have that right or step down and let us bring in a real union.. Bunch of neanderthals..
U can see the offers, CPC shows them to you, arbitration will not get u a worse offer then the so called final offer. The minister took cupw s side….. Yesterday was a win.
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Many social media and news are saying have bad information, many people think we are on “strike”. And a large part of that information makes people start having the bills online, and using other sources. CUPW and CP finish this chapter at once… don’t be so lazy.
If you all are so angry why did you all not become cpc mgmt and or cupw executives. It can’t be that hard. Look at the intellectually challenged who are there now. Lol
It’s kind of hard to become a CUPW executive when you know the system is rigged for people to vote for some of the laziest people.
Even harder to get in as a CUPW NEB since all the power is centralized in Ontario.
As for CPC management, the same thing. Only the laziest people become managers.
I would rather work than be lazy.
https://www.policyalternatives.ca/news-research/canada-post-is-a-vital-canadian-institution-why-doesnt-the-government-act-that-way/
If this guy gets it, why doesn’t the management at Canada Post???
Can I file a complaint against all those who make a comment including myself?
Shut down Canada Post and let people find their dream job.
cupw destroying the company instead of going elsewhere is certainly a choice. The greed is real
This will definitely go into arbitration, just like last time. Once again CUPW member will lose another 1000$ signing bonus, and will get less then what the Corp was offering… THANK YOU CUPW
Arbitration is never less then that final offer. Its said u think otherwise.
It’s hard to believe that you think you’re right, but that seems to be a common sentiment with CUPW!
You’re mistaken and obviously never been through an arbitration.. If you don’t know don’t post make believe stuff
arbitration will be a disaster. the company is broke. wake up.
Your welcome
Cowardly move by the Minister. Has she not watched the IIC hearings or read the IIC report???
Which by the way, is factual, just like the Annual Report.
The company continues to bleed, no volumes, no revenue coming in. Our customers and partners are greatly affected.
A membership vote is the fairest way to go at this point. They each fork out ~$95 in union dues every month…(that’s ~$5.1M/month, ~$61M/year!!) That alone should give them the right to see the offer and have the opportunity to vote on what THEY think is best for them.
CUPW doesn’t want that because they can’t control the vote as they do for their own strike mandate votes and must know the majority of their members would vote YES.
Enough already
Exactly let us vote, if you don’t they should be charged under labor board for unfair negotiating.. Where’s our rights CUPW, bunch of criminals
Cupw will refund all union dues to its workers. Sign cpc mgmt
We are doing this for our membership. Cupw prez
According to cpc and cupw there will be No strike No lockout .My leafs win cup on 2026. Which one do you believe?
The Leafs winning the cup in 2026 is more believable!
The geniuses at cpc and cupw only have a short time to get a deal done. If not arbitration becomes law. And usually the corporation wins in arbitration. We the the inmates will get a bad deal. So let’s all clap our hands and prey for arbitration. Lol
Exactly!!
Want to see do this the easy way?
– Show us the payroll including bonus’ for management for the last ten years.
– Also post regular employee payroll including bonus’ for the last 10 years.
I think I found the leak.
Let’s also look at the Union books, how much are the salaries for the NEB? How does their Union pension compare to ours? We’re paying for for both with our dues, show us the books.
It’s time to decertify CUPW.
Quick lesson in negotiating tactics for you. Support your side to project solidarity and unity no matter what until AFTER a deal is reached. When that is finally achieved, then by all means initiate or do whatever you feel you need to do or say to correct the union shortfalls.
EXACTLY, THEY BS AROUND, THREATEN TO STRIKE, YET NEVER MISS TO TAKE THE CUPW DUE, WHICH BY THE WAY GOT RAISED TO OVER 100$… many employees still suffer from December strike, it was a hard financial hit to many, CUPW couldn’t at least contribute so people dont loose the meds insurance… whats the point of unions when there’s both provincial and fed work norms system…
Yes.. and how nice of cupw to collect dues TWICE in January to make up for Decembers loss. Ya… sure…cupw cares about the membership, not the money.
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It was stated in the hearings that we have 4500 more supervisors and 3000 less routes across Canada. CPC has blamed population increases on rising losses. Obviously it is not because of CUPW wages, we have a smaller workforce. That leaves the question out there as to who are these extra 4500 supervisors leading?
4500 extra supervisors? APOC total membership is 3900. Your math isn’t mathing.
Ok. I misunderstood. Here are the numbers from the IIC hearings.
In 2006-2007
42,000 urban
5970 rsmc
3620 APOC
In 2023
35,800 urban
8900 rsmc
4,400 APOC
So approximately 6200 less urban, 2930 more RSMCs and here ya have it…we somehow need 780 more APOC people to keep all together.
Sorry for my earlier misunderstanding of the hearings.
Lay offs are coming next week…
Another CUPW success
The simple fact that Canada Post has asked to force a vote and is relying on that vote to occur is a demonstration of the companies shear disdain for its employees and its legal obligations to a unionized workplace. Perhaps Canada Post would be better off, building the business by having pilot projects under appendix T for weekend work to occur, while this is being resolved in arbitration ? Instead of blaming the union or the workers for the shear mismanaged public institution.
A forced vote is an interesting juncture, you certainly underestimate the workers Canada Post. You have never ever cared about forced arbitration , relying on the government to step in to undermine the workers before, please don’t pretend you “care” now. You certainly underestimate the workers, because your pushing a vote is going to be the reality check you need. It won’t end up in your favour. Stop playing games, stop crying broke when your handing out bonuses even after your loan from the government and stop breaking the law, get your pens to paper and work with the mediator appointed to identify items to be sent to arbitration . You’ve side stepped for 18 months , and the tactics you’ve used to harm your employees is unprecedented. Stop it
Sorry but forthose of us who wants to blame the company for all it’s woes you are not working for a solvent company with a great future.Letter mail will never be back the future is in overnight and same day shipping.If you are not ready to play by the same rules as the competition you are gone
We have a legal right to vote on all offers, you must be 1 of those negotiating committee degenerates hiding the truth. A vote will prove to CUPW how they are not wanted and it’s time for them to remove themselves and we can bring in a union that works for the membership instead of against it..
A major part of the real problem with all of this is letter carriers not having their own union anymore. Cpc are masters at creating division, discord and fear mongering. Many non carrires in cupw would likely vote yes because they are not under direct and unrelenting attack in this joke of a final offer. Letter carriers will get royally screwed even more than we already are. That’s why cpc is trying to ram through ” we are your buddies $1000 signing bonus, let them vote”. For those whining they want to vote, be carefful what you wish for, carriers would get shafted immediately but the rest will also get shafted shortly after, likely while still counting a signing bonus which after tax might get you half a tank of gas
How are letters carriers getting screwed? My LC delivers to my house twice a week, and not once have we received our first class mail on its own, there are always flyers delivered with our lettermail; my LC is paid to deliver to my address five days a week, yet only shows up 40% of the time. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to for any company to pay their employees for the work they do, 8 hours work for 8 hours pay; no employee should be paid 8 hours for 5-6 hours of work. The pushback is obvious, LCs want to the ability to be paid a for full day while doing less than a full day’s work and still have the ability to work 17.04 OT within their 8 hours. Load leveling has been around for years in parcel hubs, there is no reason why it can’t be implemented for LCs. Weekend delivery staffed at double time for FT LCs is not a sustainable business model.
Just an FYI routes are not measured at 100% coverage, therefore your letter carrier is NOT paid to deliver to your door everyday! In fact, I’ve recently seen routes measured as low as 17% coverage, which doesn’t even make sense considering flyers get delivered to 1/3 of points of call each day.
Letter carriers are being screwed with SSD, dynamic routing etc.
I’m a letter carrier, I work 6 hours a day. I walk 30 km a day. You want me to work another 2 hours, which is another 10 km a day? I just can’t physically do that every day.
Actually we do not need you to home mail delivery more than once a week or best scenario not at all, community mailboxes are across neighbourhoods and in city and are easy and work fine. They would certainly decrease your walking g time and save loads of money
Pt mscs used to deliver parcels on weekends (8 hrs) sat and sun … nothing new!!! Why now all the fuss?
CUPW voted LCUC out (letter carriers union), don’t blame Canada Post, know the facts before you spew lies..
And letter carriers will continue to get shafted until they learn to DO THE JOB THE WAY ITS SUPPOSE TO BE DONE!! STOP STARTING EARLY…STOP GOING STRAIGHT THROUGH… STOP COMING BACK TO THE DEPOT AFTER 4 HOURS PAID FOR 8 FINISHED AND ALLOWING SUPERVISORS TO SEE YOU. Eveyone else pays for letter carriers selfishness!
Exactly, that’s how I did it for over 15+ years and no worries about extending the routes..
CUPW is useless & needs decertification! Many would never join if not forced!
CP needs to fire board of directors who have brought company to bankruptcy! Fire inside supervisors who surf net all night & act horrendously . Adults don’t need 2-3 supervisors!?
CUPW & CP need to address the numerous inside retired workers who are getting a salary & CP retirement pay & CPP/OAS while being accommodated?! As well. Why are you still giving all OT to full timers at 1 1/2 or 2 times only when PT staff can not get 40 hrs at straight time. Total waste of $ and you know it but public does not Many PT workers want opportunity to do weekend deliveries as well .
Train everyone on RVU, why is it only elderly FT workers who can work here and are inefficient
What is purpose of having PT work 4 days/week with 4 hours for 2-3 days and then have them push carts around for hours hours because there is no work. Move shifts to 3 days 8 hours for efficiency. Move the workers who cannot meet job requirements to machines.
Who needs home delivery. Community mailboxes work great. Many have them and are fine. Posties dues not need to do wellness check?! Who dues this when there are community mailboxes?! If you’re disabled & need delivery and have proof, you can get it once a week or pay for extra! Bills only come out once a month!
CUPW & CP employees over 65 have had their STD cancelled yet they are forced into potential hazardous work on machines with no std coverage?! Why have you not fixed this CUPW?!
Why do t CUPW & CP never address the poor performers. We see them and they are beyond lazy yet nothing is done. Cupw supports laziness and having a woeful e of over 25% over age if 70!?, so not a wonder CP has lost public support
Why dies CP allow workers to have more than one government job or have family managing family. No background check for inside workers handling personal information Wow
WELL SUMMED UP!
Some facts right. Unions only speak for the ones that can’t do the job. Old timers Should not be allowed to work full time after 65 years old. Taking a job away from someone that really needs it. Especially if they had 35 years in. After this signing. All departments should find their own unions. Letter carriers need their own. Inside need theirs too. Mechanics well now Go elsewhere. Dealerships make way better money
CUPW strike or CPC lockout. Something needs to give!
Brothers and Sisters…. We have given the NEB the power to represent us as a whole. Do second guess that decision. I for one do not need to vote on every offer presented to us by the corporation.
It is obvious that the $1000.00 and $ 500.00 signing bonuses are a front to cover up stuff that will come back to bite us in the end. Trust the NEB to make the right decision that will have an impact on all of us and the future of Canada Post.
Do not let the boss divide and conquer us!! Our strength is our unity.
CUPW NEB need to be removed. The majority of CUPW members did not vote for them. Only a select few CUPW members vote for these lazy people.
Grab the names of every member that’s on the NEB and National level, and when the next election rolls around and they start brown nosing you for your vote, make sure that you vote for ANYONE but them.
These people didn’t even have the testicular fortitude to wish it’s 55k paying members a MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR. Shame on them.
Party’s over, Corrupt Union of Progressive Wackos.
We need to remove CUPW, not just the NEB, they’re ruined everything for us all and stolen our money
This is some mafia stuff going on, well CUPW will be the nail in the coffin for Canada Post.
I have a question. Why is it that the union not let their members vote on the contract? Do they feel that the members can not make an educated vote on their future. What is the actual reason? Please don’t attack me, educate me.
Because we would be voting every week. Our reps are working on a GOOD contract.
CUPW not working on a good contract, only stalling for your union dues.. wake up, we’ve always lost with CUPW
Picture this a candle burning at both ends. The Question becomes will we get more federal Money. Will CP refinance the $500 million Bonds, the 1 billion FED previous Loan seemed to indicate it was for this payment.
Before any negotiations, please CUPW tell us, how do you get union due for flex and part time employees? Still flat rate $95? 16 hrs/week so 64 hrs /month. Part time employee going to pay almost $1.50/hr. That is not fair. Now temp employee is paying $22.50/hr, because very rare to get on-call. Mostly 1shift for month, because mail volume decresed. My opinion is CUPW is afraid about the union dues if canada post hire the part-time and flex-part time employee, it would effect their revenue. CUPW members first you guys vote for pro-rated union dues then complain others. When you point fingers to others, other four fingers are pointing you too. Think carefully and consider casual workers life and difficultiess too.
CUPW…you’ve accomplished what you set out to do…The company is now RUINED by biting the hand that feeds you…and CPC thanks for having such mismanagement for years and you’ve ruined this company also…Thanks to both sides…NOT
I am enlightened by the amount of customers who continue to tell us daily they are on our side. They hope that CPC would be fair to the the employees and bargain in good faith and get a deal done properly.
Wrong, people want to see us privatized, you must be a NEB groupie posting lies for them getting paid by our dues
CUPW NEB and President = Communists who enjoy partying on our money.
Decertify CUPW, and make up our own union where are union dues go to fight for postal workers rights, not leftist causes.
Canada post wants the members to vote on a 700 page document, is that clear? I’ve received a Cole’s notes of nonsense from Canada post via mail , pdt, workers and management. Butt here is the vital question. Have the members the capacity to digest a 700 page document and then vote yes or no? That’s why we have a UNION, AND WE HAVE SACRIFICED SO MUCH TO GET HERE. You do your best and if others around you say it’s not your best , you fight for your right to continue on.
CUPW, the only solidarity that you’ve managed to inspire amongst members is in the belief that you’ve gone rogue. Clearly, by asking to vote on the offer, we’re as far apart from your position as you are with CPC. Get a clue and get it done.
CPC tried to sneak a vote in. They failed. Now, if CPC don’t negotiate, we go to arbitration and all of the bullying from our insane employer could be for not. These ______ actually said they wanted to take our 5 min washup away. No arbitrator on the planet is going to do this. As for the LC garbage, you better deal quickly CPC, or arbitrator is about to get you all fired….
CUPW is mad because Canada Post gave us information which CuPW will not.
Too bad, the union represents the minority which is why they are scared of a vote which they cannot control and fix.
CUPW represents the cheaters and the lazy, those workers must go for Canada Post to be competitive in the current economic situation.
Exactly, 100% they represent the bottom feeders and repeat offenders..
So true, we will always be uncompetitive until the day these employees are rightfully fired.
Why is this company so lousy at terminating those who are incompetent at the job they are paid to do??
Because cupw defends these people and makes it impossible for canada post to actually fire anyone!
Finally a chance for MEMBERSHIP to vote!
MEMBERSHIP pays CUPW , they work for US
If the vote is a NO. then CUPW knows it has its members behind it, if the the vote is a Yes, then they know we are wanting this deal- either way MEMBERSHIP that pays dues, etc get to decide their OWN fate
I realize that CPC is trying divide the membership, but we are ALREADY divided – the final offer has little consequence for inside workers, its all Letter Carrier based
WE .the member, should determine our own fate, not a NEB – a vote would give us a much better idea on what the pulse of the membership is
The issue seems to be we CUPW wants to squeeze as much as possible out of the CPC corporation before they force it to go belly-up. The other reality is that any other business that lost 3 billion dollars over the past years would have long fired the management and hired those that could run an organization without losing billions of dollars. Time for change for sure on both fronts. Reality check – You can’t squeeze a drop of water out of a stone… especially a stone that is defective!!!
Even with competent management, implementing meaningful change is challenging when union contracts impose restrictions that limit strategic flexibility.
I dont believe a word cpc says. In their supposed dire financial straights Isn’t it amazing how all of a sudden they have the money to offer $500-$1000 to 55000 employees if they vote yes? Its all Smoke and mirrors
I believe nothing the union says. It’s afraid to empower it’s people. Poor leaders do that. They need control. We need a union that listens to its members. Do you people feel listened to? I don’t😞It’s done it’s good but now fails to see how much change is needed. Technology (AI), all social media has changed our landscape. We are not as important as we used to be. The corporation needs a complete reno also! We need a miracle. Help somebody!
All letter carriers out there, are you sick and tired of calling a supervisor phone number and finding out he or she is not at your depot anymore? Do you know why this happens? Because they don’t assign those nu bees to the depots but to the supervisors, and they take them with themselves when they are switching depots. You have a flat tire but that number is not valid anymore. This is how this company is being run! 1 supervisor to every 5 employees smoking behind the building and using the company phone as their personal phone. We need a new management right away
“nu bees” haha great job
It’s always amazing to see that hammer and sickle flag flying at CUPW rallies 🙂
It is not CUPW driving this company to the ground. It’s the incompetence of the CPC management from their nonsense SSD to losing contracts one after the other over the years to not creating further services using their advantage to be able to reach every Canadian. I understand CUPW overly involves in management practices with unreasonable suggestions like senior check ups but after all CPC management mismanaged the company. Regardless of what the outcome is, they should all be fired after this dispute resolved and bring fresh blood in to thrive this business.
Really?????????
Contracts are lost due to a lack of competitiveness. If they were paying minimum wages, requiring full days of deliveries 24/7, and having carriers own and maintain their own vehicles, they would likely be on a more level playing field.
3 streams of revenue, for those who don’t know ,,Lettermail which is in decline & has been ,,but still millions of pieces in the stream at any given time plus all the third class bulk mail that nobody talks about that still has a lot of revenue tied to it, the second string of revenue is parcels, and the third stream of revenue are flyers, all delivered by Canada Post employees the competition UPS, FedEx express Purolator, but with Purolator can post as a 91% stake in that company, so it basically owns it three streams of revenue and you can’t make a go of it then somethings out of whack come on already
Not only that but CPC has no sales staff to get new business like pickups on demand. It is CPCs own fault and mismanagement that has them in this situation not the employees. When you treat employees as an expense and not an asset you are guaranteed to fail !
To the Canada Post management and CUPW NEB,
Nice work in destroying the companies reputation. The general public don’t have any confidence in postal workers delivering their mail and parcels.
You have pitted workers of different classes against each other and destroyed any hope of recovering revenue to cover the expenses and wages to run Canada Post.
Instead destroying our reputation and our jobs, why can’t you just work together to fix the problems and make the system better.
You’re not satisfied? Here are your options:
1- do nothing but keep complaining.
2- next negotiations, join the negotiation committee.
3- find another job.
4- fight to keep your current job.
I chose number 4.
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH CUPW
TAKE THE DEAL OT LETS US VOTE .
IF YOU ARE SO CONCERNED and VALUE ,TRUST YOURS MEMBERS.. LETS VOTE
WHO VOTE WILL YOU GET LETTERS CARRIERS ONLY .
SIGN THE CONTRACT OR PUT IT TO A VOTE .
END IT RIGHT NOW CUPW 🙏
This has gone on too long and employees and businesses are hurting. Arbitration or a vote needs to happen now. They will not negotiate with each other.
I am just lazing back in my chair, eyes closed, breathing peacefully, imagining how much business and profit we would have if management wasn’t hell bent on a forcing a strike to occur for virtually every contract negotiation, going back decades! Image the trust that the public would have in our ability to deliver for them! Ahhhh, but alas, the clown show must continue. More bonuses I say! Give them moooore……………..
I’ll agree to load leveling when you agree that I can load level the supervisors!!! Doesn’t seem quite right all of sudden, amiright?
Time to for the government to clear house. They don’t agree with canada post management. They won’t force a vote. And now they are agreeing with the union that this should go to arbitration.
Checkmate.
All this time I thought that I was living in a democratic country. First CUPW will not allow us to vote, but that should be expected as their head office must be in Cuba, why else do you need to go there all the time. Now our democratically elected government is taking away the right to vote as well.
I guess we can say good bye to the signing bonus and the last offer and get ready for a much worst deal that will be forced upon us as usual. Way to go CUPW negotiators. You never learn from the past, do you?
Truer words could not be spoken. Unbelievable what is going on!!! How long do you keep us in limbo.? I’m baffled that CUPW wants to go to arbitration. It NEVER got us any where good in the past and again we will lose!!! Are you happy CUPW???? We will definitely get less than the proposal. What do we pay you for? You don’t care about your members. You just want your pockets lined. Cause In the end whatever agreement comes out of this sh**show, our dues will go up, AGAIN, and you’ll get many more trips to Cuba, but your members are once again screwed. You say your fighting for our future, for CP future, we don’t have a future. We’ve lost so much business already, do you really think we’ll get it back??? What a joke CUPW is!!!! Thanks, thanks for nothing.
exactly, bravo!
Canada Post doesn’t want to go to binding arbitration for one reason; they will be found out as the anti-worker corporation and won’t win half of the items they proposed for gig work. When has Canada Post EVER turned down binding arbitration??? That process historically favours the company, and yet they’d rather have the government step in (again) to force a vote, thinking the workers will bend over…and by most of these comments, they’d be correct! Maybe some of you have no clue about the voting on the CP Employees Facebook page. The poll was “if you were to vote on the “final proposal” set forth by Canada Post, would you vote yes or no?”. Nearly 200 votes, all individuals (I checked) and the votes are 70% NO!! That may be a low amount of voters, but I can assure all the folks on here trying to make it sound like we need to sign that THEY are in the minority!
We keep fighting, because none of this was caused by us and I refuse to keep breaking my back (not right now, obviously) to line the pockets of all the fat-cat executives that tried to kill this company!
Agree 100%
It seems that privatization is inevitable. This approach would likely eliminate inefficiencies caused by mismanagement and remove union-related constraints, enabling the new entity to restructure and become more competitive.
A CUPW FB page where dissent is not tolerated is not a measure of the entire workforce. The fact that they are terrified of a vote suggests they are afraid of the outcome.
So if you and National are so confident, let’s have a vote.
As for CP refusing arbitration, they may have accepted 9 months ago, but incase you forgot, we shut down the company for 4 weeks, because, according to CUPW losing its members 8% of 2024s pay, and doing temporary and permanent damage to the company we need to succeed was all preferable to arbitration.
Letting your members vote on an offer however, that’s too much , in that case, arbitration is fine.
Finally, as for arbitration ” finding out ” CP is anti worker etc, have you read the Kaplan report? A man that’s friendly to labour, of you have you will know that was not his conclusion, and and arbitratior will likely rely heavily on that report.
People need to move on from CP bad , CUPW good, it’s childish, there is always fault on both sides.
I would like to vote.
First, the FB page is not sponsored by CUPW, it’s a page for current and former employees.
Second, the work stoppage in 2024 was because Canada Post cancelled our contract. Our union, rightly so, wouldn’t allow us to work without protections. For instance, if we continued working, Canada Post could transfer you across the country. If you declined, you’d be out of a job.
Third, the IIC (Industrial Inquiry Commission) was created by the Ministry Of Labour. Kaplan was in their pocket before any investigation into Canada Posts’ financial situation began! His report completely disregards the suggestions, for more than a decade, from CUPW to help make CP profitable.
My last point…and I’ll write it out in capital letters for emphasis…
CANADA POST SHOULD NOT BE A FOR -PROFIT VENTURE!! We are a service for all Canadians. The complete mismanagement of this company has happened BECAUSE it was trying to be for-profit. We don’t demand our schools make a profit. We don’t demand our hospitals make a profit. We don’t demand our bridge builders to make a profit. Does CP need to change its direction?? Absolutely!! They should have a decade ago but kept on paying out bonuses to its executives instead. The change should not happen at the expense of its workers!
You’re dreaming, CUPW called a strike and caused these problems.. How much does CUPW pay you to post misinformation about post office and Praise those clowns..?
They called a strike because Canada Post cancelled the CBA. It ain’t too hard to find this out!
“ Canada Post has notified the union and CUPW-represented employees that unless new agreements are reached, the current collective agreements for both the Urban and RSMC bargaining units will no longer apply as of Friday, November 15 at 8 a.m. ET. The Corporation will then be in a legal position to introduce new terms and conditions of employment for all CUPW-represented employees.
Under the new terms and conditions, the Corporation will:
adjust staffing levels in operations to reflect operational realities, including but not limited to layoffs as well as reductions in the number of temporary employees and part-time hours;
adjust leave provisions and benefits in line with the statutory minimum conditions established under the Canada Labour Code.”
That was from November 12th. As a result, we went on strike November 15th. I don’t have to be paid by CUPW to know how things work! If you want to bash the union, please research first!
Cue the circus music! Canada Post and Cupw are oil and water. Been this way for decades. How about arbitration every 4 yrs from here on out? By the time this “contract” gets settled, it’s near time to fire up the next negotiation and on and on the circus continues. I’m just an employee who’s been stuck in the middle of Bozo (CP) and Krusty the clown (CUPW). Everyone should be ashamed. I know I’m embarrassed.
@fed up
I AM BEYOND EMBARRASSED
In liberals Canada it’s all talk and no work! Making Canada strong how?? Making a bunch of promises and sitting on the couch all day long??
Ummm…..I think youre looking for the conservative or liberal party facebook page. This is the canada post comment page for matters regarding canada post cupw contract talks.
Go to the cupw site and read the latest from today.
Knowledge is power.
No knowledge at all whatsoever. Only thing I agree with is the struggle continues, ad nauseum!
Lol
This debacle of a supposed negotiations has made us all a laughing stock. CpC is the very definition of union busting. No desire or intention of negotiating ever, in almost 2 years all while lining their pockets
100%
1000% AGREE!
Seriously, CPC is lining their pockets! I cannot understand how so many people are so delusional as to the financial state of Canada Post. The company is broke! No lining of any pockets! Cupw needs to get a grip on reality.
It would most likely go to arbitration anyways. The 2 sides are very far apart on certain fundamental operational issues. Hopefully in the end both sides wind up with something they can both live with. Then we can all start working together to help Canada Post be the leader once again in the industry.
Now it’s time for CUPW to respond with their counter offer, and put it to a vote. Fair is fair.
Absolutely NOTHiNG to vote on. All garbage!
With their dangled carrot 1000 dollar signing bonus? Another trick by cpc to shaft all of us. No thanks ! If you buying into any of this you’re a fool
Maybe it was the way I worded my statement. I meant we vote on cupws offer
No, we take the $1000 and CPC offer. CUPW doesn’t know how to negotiate or else it would’ve been done by now, not 2.5years of stalling and forced arbitration
CPC is full of it. I dont believe or trust anything they say any farther than I could throw them.
The same can be said about the CUPW NEB and our local president.
Exactly!! If you think CUPW is any better your a fool.
Went into a store ,name not important to comment,Walmart and was wearing Canada Post jacket. Customer yelled profanity and blame me for all the problems at Canada Post. Then threw a stuffed animal at me. I guess it could have been worse,could have been a live animal. No more Canada Post apparel outside.
Funny…I walk into many stores in my uniform and invariably have people say they’re “with me” and “keep fighting”. Never had one bad word directed my way.
Don’t believe that for a second lol
charge them for assault. let the cops know
Can I get long-term disability because these negotiations are giving me stress,mental anguish,emotional despair and physical pain. If so ,let me know at 1 800 cupwcpc.
Thank you for trying to push this to a vote, I’m disappointed the government didn’t back it up. I feel we are going in circles (before going down the drain?). I’ve lost all faith in CUPW and their ability to accept the IIC report/financial facts and negotiate accordingly. At least a vote would be trying something new, and it would have ended this extended nightmare one way or another. I feel it is time for the employees to have their say.
That’s because you guys have nothing to lose in your cozy inside jobs. Just the carriers getting shafted to the max. Never should have given up our own union thanks to cpc overlords
Yeah right, working 5 hours and being paid for 8 hours with lots of overtime on top!
bring back lcuc
Nothing to vote on. Zero!
Are you kidding me with this?
This ‘thing’ has been going on for almost TWO years!
Both negotiating teams have FAILED the employees AND Canadians – and should be replaced, along with the head honchos at Canada Post AND especially the union, replaced by a union who acts on the best interests of the employees and their future – not on behalf of their political cause of the day.
Tell us all how CUPW is not acting in the interest of future employees. The reason we’re still at this stalemate is BECAUSE they’re fighting for the future of the employees. Canada Post would toss you to the side and replace you with a gig worker faster than you can blink! You think they care an ounce about you and your needs??? That’s hilarious!
The post is talking about current employees future happy, not future employees. Pay attention if you’re going to spout union propoganda.
If we were represented by a proper 21st century union based in reality with experience in modern-day business/corporate labour negotiations that focused on workers instead of a political cult obsessed with outside issues that have nothing to do with mail/parcel delivery, this would have been over more than a year ago.
Well said!! 👍
CPC is facing competition from gig-worker driven companies, which operate without the burden of benefits, vehicle maintenance costs, or overtime. They offer 7-day-a-week delivery, and their workers don’t get the luxury of going home after completing their routes but still receive a full day’s wage—albeit at substantially lower rates. You’re aware of this, yet seem unwilling to fully acknowledge its impact.
Sounds like you’re volunteering. Show us all how it’s done! 😅
Volunteering? That reply made no sense. Ignore it Happy.
Babies on both sides! Come on time to compromise:
CP: 16% raise, keep flyer money and keep carrier routes for safety and stability.
CUPW: Accept weekend part timers, accept losing the 5 min wash and accept the 6 months for new employees.
So wait, maybe I missed something. The employees still have zero say in this negotiation and are not allowed to vote on the latest offer? That tracks.
Im pretty sure that if the negotiators had to eat in the dark..
They would starve to death…finding their mouths in the dark would be impossible…
So much for democracy.
Obviously the Liberal government learned nothing from the 2015 debacle. Same old Trudeau government. Waste time and money.
So embarrassing, what a complete lack of direction and leadership from both CPC and CUPW. I also find it strange that so few people acknowledge the colossal mistake that is the Albert Jackson Processing Center. If you’re looking for $$$600 million$$$ of CPC’s current deficit that’s where you’ll find it, operating at 1/3 capacity at most ever since opening.
One of many while elephants created by CPC management… yet it’s CUPW employee’s fault and they want us to take lower raises and accept rollbacks. Of course, those in management that are responsible for these debacles still get their bonuses and raises.
My depot has 50 letter carriers and only 14 supervisors. I’m not sure how they are expected to supervise all of us.
Sometimes we’re really bad guys and we only cross out our flyer chits and forget to initial them too.
CUPW refuses to show us what they have proposed (probably because it’s wildly out of touch with worker priorities so they don’t dare let us see) and haven’t even responded to the last offer other than saying “not good enough”. What are they doing with their time? Panicking that the employees want to vote yes? Pretending that arbitration is a brilliant idea when they fight it every other time. Glad our union dues are paying for their hotels so they can sit around doing nothing to actually get a deal 😠
Status quo without structural changes is going to result in no jobs, so who cares about future employees because there won’t be any anyhow
The union is a crooked and useless scam. Let the employees vote. Or give buyouts to senior employees so we can get out of this donkey show.
Quit being a baby! do you want to have shitty working conditions because if you vote yes thats what it will be
Buy outs. For what ? The union give us a buyout? Dream on. You have the time Just leave
This is so embarrassing CPC and CUPW. The time is long past to work together and stop trying to win.
I have zero faith that either side can actually negotiate their way out of an open cardboard box nevermind negotiate a contract. They cannot agree on anything after like 2 years with mediators so what is different now? I expect this to go nowhere but would love to be proven wrong, guess time will tell
If Cupw and Cpc took the money they have and are wasting by renting hotel rooms food drink fun with these useless negotiations,we could solve the housing problem in Canada. Or most of it.
I am so excited that the Minister of Jobs did the right thing by allowing the 2 smart entities Cpc and Cupw to continue negotiations. It would make too much sense to give the employees a chance to vote on the last offer ,that would undermine the fine job Cupw is doing.
CUPW NEB are doing a horrible job.
They can’t even properly communicate up to date information to the union locals about what is happening during negotiations. Our union local president looked really bad on tv when they couldn’t give an answer about present negotiations.
It was leaked on social media first. If the union leaders spent more time keeping informed by reading this hub and social media, they would be more prepared when giving out answers.
In addition, union local presidents should answer and return members phone calls, messages and emails. Our president ignores members but wants to increase our union due to over $100 which is too much for doing to little for us workers.
Sarcasm I hope
I’d also love to know why it hasn’t ever been reported during all of this, that management and executives have been receiving bonuses while the corporation has simultaneously been complaining about record losses? I feel like I’m smart enough to know that bonuses are usually connected to performance and sales and revenue… INCREASES. just a couple of weeks ago, hot dogs were being sold at some depots where managers could receive bonuses depending on how many weenies were sold. why on earth is this corporation giving out bonuses while losing billions of dollars every year? please help make it make sense.
you guys are all just waiting for us to sink. it won’t take long. there’s hardly anything left to deliver now and there’s less with each passing day. thanks for nothing.
The situation is going exactly the way Cpc and Cupw want it to go. So enjoy the ride. Because we have no say in anything.
just get it done now
just get it done
Cupw says their focus is to act in the interest of the workers they represent.So if we are asking for a vote on the last offer why not do so and see what the majority wants?Think I know why
this is such a joke. so embarrassing. you guys are all a bunch of fools who need to take responsibility for the mess you’re making of this CANADIAN SERVICE, and all of the lives you’re affecting – the thousands of employees and small business owners in this country. shame on all of you.
Nothing to do with those inbisels Cpc Cupw. Cheers to all emergency personal ,who save life’s,fight fires,deal with all sorts of multiple personalities disorders. You are the heroes! Cupw Cpc I spit on you.
Hasn’t this (rinse, repeat) reached the definition of insanity by now?
No more overtime for full time employees. Too bad that’s crazy. Over 60 dollars an hour is crazy especially seeing cheaters. Grab and go but deliver one or two walks 40 parcels. Taking over 3 hours is disgusting. I’m glad CPC is finally stopping this Part timer is the way to go. But remember supervisors too can be part time
Very disappointed with the government for not giving us, the union members, a direct vote. CUPW rather go for arbitration because they know the members will accept the offer and end their ridiculous demands that don’t represent the majority of members’ wishes. The government sides with CUPW because they don’t want to antagonise the union and lose future votes from its members, but by denying the members the vote, they are exactly pushing us to vote for a different party in the next election.
Don’t be silly arbitration with not be worse then that final offer. The fact the minister didn’t force the vote is positive. The worse that could come from arbitration is that final over. Think about that for a second.
Don’t forget, back in 2018 we got a better contract than what CPC management’s final offer would have been. Plus no rollbacks and no trojan horse offer of “flex time”; which would have been supervisors determining how many hours you worked every day.
Oh… the comment section is open again. I guess allowing comments on cpc last post refusing arbitration might have generated too much negative feedback for cpc. Wouldnt want that now, would we.
I don’t see CUPW allowing comments?
True. It’s run by a bunch of Communists and a Woke POC who experience all the special privileges the majority of us union members never partake in such as better pay, better medical/dental/ retirement plans.
They all got paid their full pay while we received only $56.20 a day in strike pay.
The NEB and negotiators also had all expenses paid luxury accommodations during the last strike courtesy of our union dues paid by us.
Now, they want to increase our union dues to cover more of their legal fights.
When we were on strike they made the same 56$ a day as us, maybe check the facts before ya just lie.
For the love of God Canada Post and CUPW get this done. You are both ridiculous in your inability to get a deal done with 18 months of time spent. Make it a 10 year deal so we can have some stability 🙄
Not at a low ball 13 % over first 4 years
good grief some members are ignorant to the facts
All I know is that the words and numbers that come out of the mouths of Cupw and Cpc are true and honest. They never ever lie ,deceive or play people for chumps. Really.
😂😂
Federal mediators will assist Cpc and Cupw to reach a deal. They’ve assisted for over 2 yrs now. I wander how thats working out,?
Make it 5 year contract.
Cupw doesn’t have to be transparent. They do all the thinking ,talking and deciding for the worker. Not to mention voting. Does anyone have a problem with that? Dictator you sat. Hum.
She also said we’d be going to arbitration if there is no agreement soon. Why is CPC hiding that information?
EXACTLY!!! I’m glad someone else noticed that!
The employees should vote!!
Nothing to vote on except garbage
That ship has sailed. Either CPC negotiates fairly or we go to arbitration!
By some miracle,if a contract is signed for four yrs,it’s only 2 yrs. Already wasted 2 yrs with no contract. So 2 yrs from now,do we get the pleasure of doing all this bleep all over again ? I can’t wait!
I’m CUPW member but I’m not happy with their performance. We need collective agreement. CUPW does not care about anything. 😡😡😡
And CPC does? Not likely
CUPW wont let its own members vote!