Canada Post has received the Industrial Inquiry Commission’s report
May 16, 2025, 01:00 pm
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Canada Post and the Canadian Union of Postal Workers (CUPW) received the final report from the Industrial Inquiry Commission (IIC), following hearings held earlier this year.
The IIC was established to review the ongoing collective bargaining dispute between Canada Post and CUPW, as well as the company’s broader financial situation and competitiveness.
The report provides a frank and objective assessment of our challenges. It outlines the IIC’s key findings and its recommendations for a sustainable path forward as we work to respond to the changing needs of Canadians.
Both Canada Post and CUPW participated in the hearings, which occurred in January and February 2025. Submissions were also received from the public.
To read the full report, visit infopost.ca/IIC.
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Retired work 38years with canadapost i know canadapost weasel. Weast a lot of money from 1970 to 2025 all they ever did was change things around bye putting in Chinese equipment and taking them down after year of finding their not as good as they look or work so they just keep wasting more money i think this will be the last year for canadapost going bankrupt just like the bay which in my time the bay Simpsons and Eaton was the biggest sponsor for canadapost and many more big customers that are gone happy landing
All the whiners who say that the employees want too much and that they don’t do anything. Most of the whiners would not last at the job. They say we don’t need Canada Post. Yet, the other couriers strike and nothing is said!
The government and the post office have been turning the public against the employees for decades. I know. My late dad was a letter carrier in the late 50’s to the mid-70’s. The management would shit on the employees while the supervisors would spy on them to see if they needed to add to their walk.
It was Canada Post who put in these community mailboxes and removed door to door service.
Canada Post is still the most affordable. Careful what you wish for! The couriers are much more expensive.
The management purposely screw the employees during negotiations and strikes while the public fall for it and blame the employees.
Funny how the overpaid incompetent management get a free pass.
Also, the federal government and their endless scandals with no explanation for missing billions and billions handed out with no accountability.
Get a life people! You are targeting the wrong group.
This is absolutely ridiculous leave the mail running especially for the small businesses that are going to hurt in this matter along with other people I remember years ago mail was 7 days a week..
True
Why is daily delivery necessary anyway? For years I have thought it was a money waster.
So we receive mail every second day.
I think it’s ridiculous that they want more money and to stop door to door delivery is ridiculous do you think of seniors who have wheel chairs and scooters in winter to get there mail from community boxes in winter is hard for them. I’m tired of people not thinking of seniors and it’s all about the mighty dollar way to go canada post it’s not our fault your loosing money
Agreed. I worked at a pharmacy with a post office and the amount of times I had drivers bring packages in jokingly saying I’m not going up all those stairs or I’m not waiting for someone to open the door. People have them delivered because they aren’t capable of going out and the delivery service provided is telling them to get up and pick it up.
Drivers are contracted by CP and are not an employee of CP.
Those individuals should be reported.
These post offices in the stores are not unionized post offices. Canada Post has contracted them out to save money.
As for some lazy employees, they are everywhere in society today. That said, our experience has been positive.
It is the private couriers that we have had issues with.
I think it is discriminatory for some canadians to receive home delivery and others have to go to a box to receive their mail. Why not have everyone use central mail boxes to get their mail and their useless flyers, like condos?
Nothing discriminatory about it. It’s simply how the delivery of the mail has evolved over the past 150+ years to meet the needs of Canada’s growing population and evolution as a more urban society
why is it everytime we get a raise in the name of struggle and hardwork union keeps getting a raise where is this money going to we are at fleet and have absolute zero representation from the union. just messages on whats app this is what we are paying 100 dollars a month for. When we ask for help there none to get unions reps are involved deeply with management and in the end nothing gets resolved. This union is useless complete waste of money.
Agree
Most Canadian’s are luck if there employment gives them a 3 percent raise. It is about time the employees be thankful for what Canada post offers them and they should be made an essential serve and not be able to strike like police personnel and any other essential services.
A new approach is needed! Use an agreed to measured approach to converting residential delivery to cmb but over 3-4 restructures to avoid layoff and absorb the reduced routes and jobs through attrition. Absorb the cost of this restructure cycle by also eliminating the high paid management that Should also be reduced as the jobs and employee pools are reduced, in fact start with 1/3 of the vp’s and directors managers superintendents supervisors and all those annual bonus entitlements, that are clearly not performance based. Once the residential conversion is complete including farm and acreage rural mail boxes, start charging for annual cmb box rentals just like all other sevices like garbage and utility service fees and 911 access fee etc. If a person does not want to pay public postal access fees to receive mail than they can find the alternate electronic or higher priced private companies that might serve their area. Then work on the business delivery aspect. The government should also have an interest and reinvest in the network by bringing back the subsidy delivery of food and necessities for northern , rural and remote areas instead of letting those private companies take advantage of them by using part of those programs to increase their guaranteed annual profit increases. That is not what taxpayers money was intended for. There must be a recognition by all canadians that there is a difference between a company who operates based on what’s profitable to them and a corporation that is mandated to serve all canadians everywhere at 1 universal price. Very different business models!
Canada post had 7 day delivery, at regular pay, in the old days. Management went 5 day delivery to reduce jobs, but still had msc full and part time, at regular pay, on the weekends for customer pick up and box/post office clearances and even parcel and pci deliveries! Management restructured them right out of existence during their postal transformation in the 2000’s. Got rid of jobs and collected high management bonuses in the process. Now management is still cutting Monday to Friday routes in every restructure yet some how keeps the same number of supervisor and even doubled the superintendents in most depot/facilities they just eliminated delivery agents in. How is that a cupw initiative/problem. The misinformation and mismanagement is gross. A ceo paid more than the prime minister who holds 2 jobs at the same time with puralator and then needs/ed president(s) and 15 vice president’s all collected still bonuses and at risk bonus pay lying to everyone that “the union” doesn’t want weekend workers when the very same union fought to keep those jobs during postal transformation. This corporation is in trouble because if it’s management, and anyone who thinks a private for profit company will serve all canadians no matter how small or remote or rural and even some outlying communities has no idea what they are talking about!
Huh? Sorry folks for a moment there I was pretending to be part of the negotiating team for CPC and CUPW at the same time.
Closed the door and everyone should go home.
Brothers and sisters stick together. Don’t let the evil prapaganda of CPC fool you. There’s only one evil prapaganda you should let fool you and that’s CUPW!
Hope you all voted for the Liberals
When we were hired by CPC ,we automatically became members of CUPW,we had no choice. So , if you don’t like your situation ,you can go somewhere else. Would you like fries with that? McDonald’s is hiring.
Cmon Edmonton Oilers win that cup and keep it in Canada where it belongs. Restore our good image to the rest of the world ,something CUPW and CPC have tarnished.
Love the venting in the comments. Lots of passionate people who are very articulate and straight forward ,no nonsense or b.s. great to read you have risen above the evil and without a conscious that CPC and CUPW have shown. Continue to sleep well.
When I grow up ,now at 60 ,I really hope I can be as smart as the executives at CPC and CUPW . Obviously my standards are quite low!
I am ashamed of both Canada Post and CUPW
This union needs to understand that they should let the workers decide this time if they want to strike
The last time it didn’t go well
Let the workers decide if there is a proposal to vote on it and not the union to decide if it’s ok or not
As far as I can tell this is the worst union in my 26 yrs of service we had
I totally agree. Please the union hold a dày of vote before launching a strike.
Totally agree this union keeps their members in the dark they find everything out through the media first.
They need to stop deciding these employees future and take this offer to the members and let them decide there future.
I agree to let CP members vote on the deal and take it from there. I know of too much turn around and unprofessional service. They shouldn’t be entitled to the same as dedicated long term employees.
For all our sake.
Agree to the reports recommendations in exchange for a high rate of pay and improved benefits.
Canada Post can hire university and college students for the weekend positions. They will pay dues, pay pension and likely move on to another career before ever collecting a pension from us. Win win for the pension and for the workers we have Monday-Friday who will never have stable volumes through the week. Big win for Canadians everywhere who WANT 7 day a week delivery of parcels!!
CUPW.
Your members are literally working GIG jobs on the side to put food on the table because over the last few CAs you failed to negotiate good wage increases and extended benefits. Stop worrying about being janitors. Clean up your act first.
Get to the table NOW and negotiate a good wage increase and benefits increase in exchange for a much streamlined CA.
CUPW – and I mean the national executives- not the fantastic workers on the front lines.
Please:
1.) Fight for raise and benefits. Push for less of a gap from the most junior workers pay to the folks at the top. It’s not right.
2.) You still have leverage to get epic pay and benefits. The CA is FULL of out of touch language that hurts Canada Posts ability to be competitive. Put that on the line. Your members WILL approve of working 8hour days, having part timers work weekends, closing corporate post offices in urban centers etc IF they are making $40/hr and have the same benefits as executives allowing each of them to support their family.
3.) The biggest ‘roll back’ over the last 20 years is that being a postie once was a job that could provide for a family and the benefits were gold. So while you focused on protecting certain collective agreements articles many of your members now work second jobs including skip the dishes (a GIG job) to try and make up for what has been lost.
DONT FORGET THAT.
Why do unions think that they’re in charge. No employer equals no job. Canada Post IS insolvent. Just how many businesses have collapsed and/or moved to Mexico. A lot. Did the workers and unions tag along? No. Wake up workers!
This is a massive opportunity for the future of Canada Post and CUPW.
CUPW should request a 20% raise for this year with all future years raises tied to inflation + 2% and make it a 10 year deal. Double dollar amounts for dental, optical, orthodontics etc in benefit plan. OR simply give all employees 51390 aka the executive benefits plan.
Accept all recommendations in the Kaplan report as this will save the corporation more than enough money to justify the raises and improved benefits.
As per Kaplan report – add article in CA so CPC can offer early mandatory retirement for most senior folks to top them up to the 35 year pension with no penalties.
Give to get folks.
Is it true CPC and CUPW are working in cohoots so they can make money and us inmates lose money.
Friday the 23,updated from the original classic movie Friday the 13. Same concept,horror terror,suspense,no reason for it. Enjoy da strike,I mean the updated movie.
No more strikes.
Leafs win cup ,new contract signed by CUPW and CPC, all politicians are honest. All these statements are true and sincere,really.
I would have believed you except for the leafs winning the cup. Thats just too far fetched.
Still waiting for my comment to be posted. Maybe after the leafs win the Stanley cup,my comment will be posted. Lol
Mgm stated the odds are 10000 times better cpc and cupw reach an agreement.
time to vote out the incompetent CUPW
I’m a new member of cupw and I agree with this completely. It’s embarrassing. None of us want to strike and most know how out of touch with reality our union is.
CPC is going to be making an offer to us b4 May 22. We know the union will not accept it cause CP has all this money! We should be able to vote on their proposal. Because like many members I can’t afford another strike… dies anyone have a good cardboard box they want to get rid of so I can get use to living in it….
Leafs….always next year. And year after and year after and year after. New contract between CPC and CUPW….see above. Time to retire from sarcastic comments….
Leafs lose,CPC and CUPW lose. Thank goodness we have the jays. Go jays Go!
So I asked what will happen first leafs win cup or we get new contract. Well leafs lost again ,no cup since 1967
.so I guess we get new contract. Yeah!
I mean idiots …union holds no cards as there is no business so they have to restructure and to save the greater numbers of employees heads need to roll….like any other company in financial troubles what’s the alternative?!!!!!!! Keep digging a hole?
So tired of this union.
We should get another one in the picture.
Dont think we can get any worse then what we have now.
After that very biased report making CUPW look like evil. It is time my fellow brothers and sisters to Strike Now! We will not be bullied
If anything, CUPW are trying to do the bullying.
Last year strike lasted 32 days approx. We missed setting new record by 10 days,1975 and 1981 ,42 day strikes.Now,forget contracts,plan should be strike for at least 43 days setting new record. Cmon CUPW and CPC I have faith you can do it!!!
At this point it’s just better to have binding arbitration. Better to get paid 3 times in June , then getting into more debt for Nothing Burgers! Unfortunately this is not the 80s and CUPW just doesn’t have the cards anymore!
Members of this union put out demands that are unrealistic.
Right, like senior check ins. They must not think logically at all.
I’m glad you know everything about everything.
I’d estimate that about 90% of us are actually against going on strike. But I want everyone to keep this in mind: the strike vote results are misleading. Unlike democratic elections, there’s no transparency or detailed breakdown. If we wanted a truly accurate and fair process, we should be able to vote locally with real-time results. But that’s never going to happen—because revealing the real numbers doesn’t serve their agenda.
Instead, they claim “95% support” to create the illusion of unity and pressure everyone into falling in line. Remember, when you’re hired, you sign a document authorizing CUPW to represent you—similar to how a lawyer operates. That representation gives them the power to speak and act on your behalf without disclosing the full truth.
Let’s be clear: your individual vote doesn’t carry the weight it should. The direction has already been set by the CUPW executives. What you see is a performance; the decisions have been made behind closed doors.
I want every employee who voted in favor of a strike to remember this: strikes no longer work in today’s environment. This isn’t the 1980s or 1990s—times have changed, and so must our strategies.
Our executives, along with the CUPW President —CUPW’s so-called advocate—simply don’t get it. Let’s be honest: what was actually accomplished during the job action in December? We lost wages, were forced back to work, and saw a significant drop in mail and parcel volume afterward.
Now, the government’s postal review is clearly calling for major changes. If the union thinks it can challenge this, good luck. A strike at this point would be reckless and counterproductive.
Let’s not forget—this government report was triggered by the union’s labor disruption. By refusing to be reasonable, CUPW accelerated a report that now says home mail delivery may no longer be necessary. If we had accepted the previous offer, this report likely wouldn’t have surfaced for years.
Thanks to CUPW’s leadership—we are now facing new threats to job security, particularly for newer employees. The December strike action didn’t protect jobs—it put them at greater risk.
Those with lower seniority need to seriously reconsider who’s actually advocating for their future. The people claiming to defend your jobs are, in reality, putting them in jeopardy.
It is a shame the union doesn’t listen and actually represent their people. They seem to be living in the 80s still as if we have no competition.
They will run us right into privatization. It feels like that is their goal honestly.
Looks like we should have accepted the last offer from CPC. We are not gonna get anywhere near that now. Good job CUPW. You screwed us all again.
Just get us a contract!!! Both sides need to give and take. This has gone on long enough!!!!
So what’s gonna come first the leafs winning the Stanley cup or contract between CPC and CUPW? Maybe both. Should I hold my breath? HUM.
Bunch of old seniors still working at post office. Some of them can’t even do a full duties and thats one of the reasons why CPC hired tons of mid aged workers to keep the floor running.
Unionized workers can vote to decertify a union, effectively “firing” it as the bargaining agent for the workplace. This process is democratic and follows the rules outlined in the Labour Relations Code, similar to how unions are originally voted into place.
This is what needs to be done, sooner then later. It seems like the executives of CUPW would rather bankrupt us first though.
Both parties have made plenty of mistakes over the years. Fighting the CMB conversion in 2014 was CUPWs biggest mistake for sure. It was very short sighted on their part. It’s a safer delivery model and would have been beneficial for proposed work methods today. I’m tired with the double talk. We talk a lot about safety but then stay in the way of it on many fronts. CUPW loves pointing out our injury rates but ignores it has created a running culture for letter carriers and everyone knows rushing with short cuts contributes to this big time but everyone tries to turn a blind eye to that. I’ve been witnessing this crap for 30 years now. The union speaks from both sides of the mouth on the topic big time. It’s time the union recognize it’s not pure either. Yes, the corporation has made plenty of mistakes and have made plenty of moves that make our job unsafe. But CUPW has to take some responsibility for the culture that they have created as well
I find it interesting how there’s so much black or white thinking here, when reality exists in nothing but shades of grey. Answers shouldn’t be either/or – there are ways through. Find them.
Yes, Canada Post is a bloated, top-heavy dinosaur. Fix that. Streamline operations administratively, cut bonuses until results are acquired, and get to work righting your sinking ship. Step up and make the hard choices within the ivory tower before reaching without.
Yes, change is required, and efficiencies needed. Ok. I could give you a handful of processes that should be on the chopping block or lined up for tightening. Recreating the wheel shouldn’t be the biggest thing happening here. There’s so much low hanging fruit that’s expensive that it’s boggling.
Yes, it’s ridiculous that, if I only work 8 hours in the first paycheque of the month, my union dues would cost me more than half my pay. For representation and bargaining that’s been opaque at best (anyone else wanted a generalized update the last few months?). Absurd. Again, dinosaurs.
All I see when I look around are scapegoats and an utter lack of accountability.
Time for our big kid pants. CP, dig deep and put an offer out that the membership can agree to. Or separate out the issues for votes on contentious clauses, so we can yea or nay them. Then you’ll know where to keep negotiating. It’s clear that our confidence in CUPW is waning. Help us hold the process to account so we can all move ahead.
cupw is DONE
Is there a way we can overstep this ridiculous union and get them out and vote on new representation?
There has to be something we employees can do so we are not forced to strike or be locked out this time around. Any suggestions welcome.
Here’s an idea, why not fire the current CPC CEO and hire the commissioner of the IRC report.
CUPW must let the members vote and decide!
Soups seem to have an awful lot of free time today…
Many from long ago will know….
They lost the ability to actually ‘manage’ the company when the union won the right to protect against ‘individual measurement’.
Everything since has been favourites and nepotism! The rest are just ‘part of the collective group’ hoping to get by…
Yes, it’s a thing.
Just a thought! Maybe all CUPW members should insist that strike votes are actually counted in front of all members as soon as the votes are cast. No more going in another room with the ballots and then saying it was an 80 percent or more strike vote. The votes should at least be counted in front of a third party, a lawyer maybe?
Employees will never benefit from a strike ever again. Those days are over. The plan is to have a part time job that you can rely on for strike times that your union won’t let you work so you never lose any money. Now get back to work.
So I got a 5 year old to read Mr. Kaplan report. Being an ex manager reading ,writing, rithmetic were not requirements for the job ,just playing video games. Therefore, if CUPW and CPC need someone bright at the negotiations table, I got a 5 year old who can help.
Lol! Love this!
I’ve said those things for years!
rithmatic for sure.
anon, womp womp womp
What is wrong with YOU! It DOES NOT MATTER at this point how or why cpc is broke, the reality is THEY ARE! You might want to walk until you’re feet fall off for this socialist communist political union but I DO NOT and no longer will. This union is still stuck in 1972 trying in 2025 to remain relevant in the labour movement. And because of that cupw is about to sacrifice it members by calling a strike that will benefit no one, especially the members. So walk till your feet fall off. Members should defy this corrupt union and go to work. That would destroy this union for good allowing a new one to emerge.
You’re exactly right. CUPW would like nothing better than a time-machine to transport the entire company back to the 1970’s. Too bad we’re all living in 2025. The union’s latest bulletin dismisses the report and then responds to 2 of the 7 recommendations. So typical. They never stop displaying their incompetence and their refusal to face reality. Sounds like two of the solutions could work: Arbitration or allowing members to vote on an offer from Canada Post. We know CUPW can’t compromise, so therefore there won’t be a negotiated agreement.
I am crossing picket line regards what the union wants us to do.
CUPW has cost all of us thousands of dollars.
I can’t afford to lose a job that I like doing.
Yeah. Preach the truth. I’d cross that line with ease. Corrupt W. I say Besides 10000 to 15000 less dues ! If the older members retire when they were able Then ? No job losses.
This is very true I have tried to tell the union by emails that they should get with the times currently and not think back like it used to be and to face the reality. Would we as postal workers want to keep our jobs or not?
I agree with you 100%. Let’s all stand together and defy the union!!! They need to know what it’s like not to receive a pay cheque. And eventually be unemployed and homeless
The report is actually completely accurate in it’s assessment of both Canada Post and CUPW. The company did push to hard for roll-backs, but many of the union’s demands were outrageous. Any intelligent worker knows Canada Post needs to change a lot and become more efficient in order to compete in 2025. The company must increase revenue. If the union was actually working in our best interests, they would help find realistic solutions instead of ridiculous proposals like ‘Postal Banking’ or ‘Seniors check-in’ etc. Full time LCs lost $7000 in Part-One of our useless strike (if you doubt this, simply compare your T4 from 2023 with 2024). Members pay more than $1200 a year for incompetent, unprofessional representation. Our only hope at this point is Binding Arbitration. Otherwise be prepared to once again lose thousands of dollars for nothing!
I got it…how about we all take a pay cut to $15/hour? And we all agree to work 20 hour weeks without benefits. And a pension?? Forget it, let’s just put all that money towards the improvement of the company.
That’s strange, none of the things you mentioned were in the report. Can I assume you didn’t read it. Have fun walking the line once again for CUPW and losing thousands of dollars.
Of course they’re not in the report. I’m playing on the fact that you’d have Canada Post do ANYTHING they want and you’d be saying “thank you, sir, may I have another??”. You not being able to realize sarcasm is very disturbing….
You are going to take more than a pay cut! Had you been able to avoid the last strike and sign a new contract you would not be facing what you are about to face. The entire contract is about to change, all those clauses that keep Canada Post from being viable will be gone.
The union should really face the reality of 2025 in which competition strong and market trend completely different from the past years. In fact , the only way out for Canada Post is that the union should give strong support to the Company to turn around the business first…only by doing this, we can eventually protect the fundamental interests of all the hard working letter couriers with decent pay and benefits and enable their families survive this difficult time of economy.
No one is asking you to take a cut, just be more reasonable in understanding our current financial state. We are no longer in the 80s were these CUPW executives seem to be stuck in!!!
If Canada Post is on the fringe of bankruptcy, why did they lockout the postal workers during the busiest time of the year? Forcing the workers to go on strike, to avoid layoffs.
Why did Canada Post warn the public of a possible second strike in less than 6 months? To create more instability?
How can a corporation that’s crying the blues ask for a billion dollar loan? Because they can pay it back? Off of postal workers backs? After they mismanaged everything.
Why don’t they implement any money-making ideas from the union?
Why is Canada Post always walking away from the bargaining table? Negotiating isn’t here’s an offer, take it or leave it. And it’s not pushing the same proposal over and over again, expecting a different result. And it doesn’t mean allowing the government to do your work for you.
The union is running this company into the ground!
I’m a new member of cupw and I agree with this completely. It’s embarrassing. None of us want to strike and most know how out of touch with reality our union is.
Cupw keep blaming management for the financial woes of the corp.Lets say yes (think both responsible)You don’t blame the kid for setting the house on fire and do nothing to put it out.Ever heard of compromise???
It does not matter who is responsible. The fact is the company is broke, the union does not believe it because they live in a fairytale world. When a company can not make payroll and is bankrupt employees should be freaked! The last thing they should be doing is threatening to strike.
Cupw keep blaming management for the financial woes of the corp.Lets say yes (think both responsible)You don’t blame the kid for setting the house on fire and do nothing to put it out.Ever heard of compromise???
Worked next to folks at canada post who could not take a package from belt read postal code and put it in correct mono.No one got fired or even reprimanded.Dare anyone to call me out on this
so much dead weight. management included. they WATCH it happen daily and do NOTHING. so much waste.
I will! I’ve seen many workers let go for not doing their job. Of course they appeal, and CUPW goes through the process, but I’ve never seen one come back to work.
This is 100% accurate. I’ve seen, more than once, trays with registered, Priority, Xpresspost letters/documents sit in the MEDIA mono… while I do correct the mistake, God knows how long they sat there before I spotted and fixed the error…
Then that falls on Canada Posts shoulders for not doing their dodillgence in hiring people intelligent enough to do the job. Once in, the union is there to protect the workers.
it’s true not only for cupw members but many in the management who have no clue what is your question is and don’t even try to learn.
If CUPW is serious in fighting for worker’s rights they should start by reducing union dues to part time and casual workers.
They will never, ever do that. Remember those trips to Cuba cost money. Not to mention weekend shop-steward training at local resorts across Canada. Don’t forget, our CUPW execs will keep getting paid while members are on strike or locked-out.
Full time worker
CUPW members pay one of the highest dues in North America, when you consider percentages of wages. The vast majority of unions base dues on a percentage of what you make, not a flat rate. Which of course makes total sense. But not CUPW! Apparently they think it is completely fair to charge the casual worker who may only get 2-3 shifts in an entire month, the same as a topped out FTer who works 40 hrs a week plus overtime. So…. $6000+ for a FT with overtime in a month vs as low as $200-300 for a casual . Yeah, that makes total sense…NOT!!
Nobody wants to work together.This is why we need an arbitration.
CUPW is not a union. It is a political organization. It doesn’t understand business. It doesn’t know how money, wealth and jobs are created. They think good jobs are created out of thin air, with the stroke of the pen. But it does wonders for those who don’t pull their weight. Trust me. I know. I paid dues to them for thirty three years.
Me too, paid way too much dues for 27 years.
The smoke and mirrors are not working anymore for the union. And yes, there are loads of people who would love to work part-time for CP once all the diehard teamsters retire early out of denial and dismay. Its a competitive world out there.
Years and years of CUPW support for the worst employee has now come back to bite us in the butt.
Present an offer and let us vote.
$100 a month wasted on the union.
It’s actually $104.70 a month wasted on the union!
That makes it even worse!
Facts! We need to get rid of the union!
So does this mean that every full-time postie will turn into a part-time postie?
Maybe read the report and find out…
Read it. Don’t believe that at all. But swipe in swipe out. Should have stayed with letter carriers 25 years ago. Actually 8 hour days like plant Paid lunch ? Surprised we still have that . I’m over it. So we have to work a full day. CMB’s save your bodies people.
In a shock to nobody, CUPW negotiators are stuck in their ways with their heads in the sand and refuse to actually negotiate in the present. No member of the public and probably no union members can stomach the idea of further striking. Let the membership vote and then figure out how to replace the CUPW executive and negotiators, they have caused so much more harm than good
“Heads in the sand”??? CPC has left talks a number of times. CUPW are the ones wanting to negotiate and the company keeps walking away!
And how can the CPC pay back a billion dollar loan? If they have no money?
Get pay back from the billions they wasted on salaries and bonuses! Sell off all the useless buildings they still have. Why is it mine and yours responsibility to dig THEM out of the hole they dug. There has to be accountability instead of screwing the workers!
Too late.
APOC already signed their contract in April allowing things to remain status quo for them to receive bonuses if they keep payroll and IODs low.
I get a bonus every paycheque. Open your eyes
. Householder bonus. Stop with they get this and that. It’s childish nonsense. To bad it’s gonna be a smaller CUPW Down the road Times are changing
You might want to read the actual report, CUPW were the ones being unreasonable.
Agreed.
exactly
But they aren’t negotiating, just want to keep the same system going. I’d walk away too if the people I was supposed to bargain with just kept saying the same thing and weren’t willing to actually negotiate
So you’re at the table, are you?? Who do you think has a bigger stake in getting a negotiated contract?? The corporation with zero responsibility and accountability to it employees and citizens, or the group that wants the best for both??
Cupw “negotiators” clerks and carriers are close to retirement and don’t care. Only vote should be to decertify Cupw!!!!
Canada post – put an offer to CUPW members and let us vote! We are just as frustrated with our union negotiators as everyone else! We don’t want a strike or lockout, give us a chance to vote on the best offer!
That is true, and it was mentioned by Kaplan as a possible solution. Either that or arbitration could work. The report does point out that CUPW is difficult to work with and out-of-touch. No surprise there.
What’s next union?
What is wrong with you people??? Canada Post management has put us in this position. Their complete and utter mismanagement of their duties, paying millions in salaries and bonuses to an ungodly amount of upper management, building billion-dollar facilities that aren’t needed, etc. is WHY this company is where it is today. How did CUPW and the workers get us here??? By asking for fair wages and safety measures?? I can’t believe I work with you people. Of course Kaplan is going to take the side of CP…BECAUSE CORPORATIONS DON’T CARE ABOUT IT’S WORKERS!
I will strike until my feet fall off or CP goes belly-up. You are being being blamed for their inadequacies and you’re saying thank you….unbelievable!
I agree with you 100%.
This. Ohhhhhhh so this.
Ok Boomer! Must have put in your 35 years of service and have a fat pension waiting! It’s not 1980 anymore, we have to adapt! Most of us can barely feed the family and pay rent! The majority can’t take another strike!! Regardless of how Canada Post got to this position, we are here!! We can’t go back in time, but we can move forward…
So you want a job where you don’t know what route you’re delivering from day to day?? You want to work weekends with no guarantee of hours?? You want to have your route pre-sorted for you so you’ll need to triple-bundle and deliver to 400 more points of call?? This is just a portion of how the corporation wants to blow up your rights as a worker, rights that thousands fought for before you were born! Cut benefits, cut pension, cut overtime, more dangerous, working in the dark, etc. Why is that all acceptable to you?? Why can’t we “move forward” with negotiated terms instead of just accepting what being shoved down our throats?? CUPW has been pushing for more streams of revenue for decades. What did CP do? Spend billions on useless crap and bonuses that didn’t help anyone but themselves!
And I’m nowhere near a “boomer” and am still years away from a pension. But your attitude is the biggest problem here. You want to be a slave, go ahead! I want to work for a company that actually respects the job that their workers do!
Listen to you. Work weekends, don’t keep the same route, work too much…. Why don’t they just pay you to stay home. There is 10 times less lettermail and 5 times more addresses to cover. It’s just a reality and CPC needs to adapt. Do you really think the government will keep writing 1 Billion$ checks every year so that you can maintain the same route. Part time employment is necessary (new hires). Weekend delivery is necessary to compete. Service needs to improve. Costs need to go down. Yes, CPC might have too much property and I believe that will be handled in time. The point is, the company needs to adapt to today’s market or it will become irrelevant. The main aspect of the Canada Post mandate is to be self funded. This is clearly no longer the case and that needs to change. You keep talking about executive salaries and bonuses. If you wanted that perk, you should have gone to school for 10 more years and then climbed the corporate ladder for another 20. But you didn’t so stop comparing yourself to corporate executives. And btw, regardless of what the union is feeding you, they do not make million$ bonuses. CEO salary probably hovers around 500k which is low compared to same size companies in the private sector. Just to be clear, I am not defending salary and bonuses for executives when a company is not doing well but that’s not what will change the company’s future. The problem is much bigger and requires big changes.
People People People, there is no point arguing with ‘Happy to Walk ‘. He obviously has drank way too much of the CUPW kool-aid and will not be deterred! He lives in the same fantasy world as our negotiators, and can’t let go of the past when the union actually did good. It’s always managements fault. I agree with him that there is no accountability for the fat cats at the top, the badly made decisions, and the complete waste of funds the Corp has done.
However, the union has created that same lack of accountability for employees as well, where they protect the lazy and the poor work ethic. 20 yrs ago we’d fight the fight, and come back and give it our 100%. That doesn’t happen anymore and there are a lot of abusers of the system. This company is broken from the top down, waste at all levels.
Just for the record I am a boomer, however I totally agree with what you say other than thinking all boomers have a CUPW attitude.
What is wrong with YOU! It DOES NOT MATTER at this point how or why cpc is broke, the reality is THEY ARE! You might want to walk until you’re feet fall off for this socialist communist political union but I DO NOT and no longer will. This union is still stuck in 1972 trying in 2025 to remain relevant in the labour movement. And because of that cupw is about to sacrifice it members by calling a strike that will benefit no one, especially the members. So walk till your feet fall off. Members should defy this corrupt union and go to work. That would destroy this union for good allowing a new one to emerge.
Exactly my thought.
This union is terrible.
Im seriously thinking about giving the 104 a month to a charity.
Strike until the corp goes belly up? Then we successfully ruined our livelyhood. Tell me what I. An do now then. I’m 54 yrs old with absolutely no experience anywhere else, I need this job, or I’m out on the street. Walmart greeter won’t suffice
Wow…. there you have it. The failure to reach an agreement squarelyfalls on CUPW. It truly is time for members to dis mantle the cupw for a union more business minded who will put members before politics.
I agree..cupw is no longer.we the ppl should build our own union..have in our union a knowledgeable person that knows the labor ethics, codes etc
Please CUPW no lawsuit no more transfer of my union dues to lawyers unless theres a chance of a monetary award.
I’ve been saying this for years! When members complain about where their dues are going. I tell them it’s for the lawyers fighting those couple of lawsuits for a few members across the country. That’s why even casuals pay the same amount as full-timers, regardless of how many hours they work in the month.
when will our union negotiators learn from history that usually the first offer is the best ,once again hold the membership hostage without a voice to vote on each offer,so much for democracy lol.glad I’m retired from their.
Lol. I can’t decide if you are serious or not. Literally, the first offer is always the worst.
what will cupWOKE do now? emergency trip to cuba????
I call for a national strike boycott if it happens this upcoming Thursday let’s send a message to these old cupw members that they failed and should all resign
i agree. complete disaster.
I agree stick there 56.20 a day
Im at 35years plus and agree with you.
The only thing this union wants is more money for they’re offshore accounts.
I definitely agree with you. Let’s send CUPW packing and welcome the TEAMSTERS!!!
Wow No response from CUPW. This means attrition!
This is honestly ridiculous and canada post employee’s need to get rid of this union, they are not for the employees, if they were they would realize none of them approve of this negotiation
Which side isn’t negotiating, think about it.
cupw screwed us over thanks go away already
He Found CUPW unreasonable, Total defeat for CUPW. Mr Kaplan should do a LC facility inspection in about one year….
Time to get the old negotiation team out and have new young blood with a new vision why are they still working with 35 years of seniority. We do have a pension take it and move on
The problem is most capable, intelligent workers avoid the union as much as possible. Most CUPW shop stewards and execs are the laziest, worst workers in any depot or plant. That’s the kind of people that are attracted to CUPW, because of the culture the union has created over the past 60 years.
Where’s the CUPWs answer to this? Sign the contact!
so nice to be able to read this document. and sadly, the truth is in black and white – CUPW IS FAILING ITS MEMBERS. you are out of touch and delusional. let the 80s go.
Yes the truth hurts for CUPW. Then again, they’ll never accept the truth. Let’s hope the government doesn’t allow the union to drag this out for weeks and weeks again as we all lose thousands. We need an opportunity to vote on an offer from Canada Post or arbitration.