Please verify your email for the Canada Industrial Relations Board
June 26, 2025, 03:55 pm
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Thank you to everyone who has already verified their emails. If you haven’t already, please do so as soon as possible to ensure your email address is ready to be forwarded to the CIRB to prepare for the CUPW-represented employee vote on the final offers.
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Please read the full message and instructions from the CIRB below:
This message is sent on behalf of the Canada Industrial Relations Board (the Board).
As directed by the Minister of Jobs and Families on June 12, 2025, the Board is conducting a vote on Canada Post’s last offers (UPO and RSMC units).
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CUPW Urban
Why is it wrong for us to vote on the latest offer? If we vote and it’s a ‘NO’… We continue… If it’s a ‘YES’… we go back to work and hope some of the lost customers return.
If it’s a YES, then maybe the next vote should be to get rid of our CUPW representatives and get some people in that care more for our jobs than their own…
Just one opinion added to hundreds of others… I am pleased to vote and am happy for what we might/can get in this volatile economy. 80D
Well said! The uncertainty is wearing me out.
Is it wrong that I’m making this comment on company time hum? Maybe I should do it while walking around talking to supervisors.again hum?
Ok, so I will take my breaks and lunch and come back at the end of 8 hrs. I don’t need overtime, just pay me a livable wage. We want our real raises.
Please tell me the plan where we make some money… what is your business plan?
I can guarantee you that i will not be taking anyone else’s mail, because if the routes are properly structured they would be the same, right?
If I am asked to take it out, it’ll come right back at the end of the 8 hrs.
😂😂😂
Typical Carrier logic, you wonder why we got SSD. If you actually worked the 8 hrs you got paid for instead of running your route, we wouldn’t all be in this mess..
Typical CPC management logic. They’re never accountable for not being able to motivate employees or treat them fairly and equally. They cut deals to have letter carriers work faster and skip their breaks with the promise they can leave when they’re finished their route. Now they want to reneg on that deal and expect the same tempo to be maintained for 8 hours straight.
If CUPW thinks the Postal Banking is the a way to generate revenue then, all CUPW members must change to it since it is a wonderful idea. It will be the best banking service the union could provide.
I refuse not to called a lazy well paid underworked postal clerk. I go to great efforts to do the least amount of work possible. I will not be bullied into trying any harder then I do which is not work hard,work smart. I perpisly anger all those who don’t understand that and will continue to until the end of time. Woo
CPC and CUPW are laughing at the workers who are fighting each other ,they love this kind of division. Why don’t you workers recognize that,?
There’s fights on the floor daily…Big plants, big personalities.Where’ve you been? This isn’t a NEW thing😂
Why don’t you recognize CUPW doesn’t care and has never cared. The only accomplishment is back in 1981 for the membership 😂
CUPW in our region has gone around intimidating and bullying people who take OT. Even going as far as threatening to fire them.
Also I have talked to friends who were on the pocket line back in November that either didn’t get their strike pay on time, (meaning a couple of weeks later) or some had their cheques bounce.
I for one will vote Yes. The union hasn’t done anything this round. And whatever raise we get you know our dues will go up.
There have been several posts like this, likely the same person
Why you think it’s the same person..? Because they post anonymous and your university degree that you don’t have.. CUPW has been bullying people non stop for NO votes, nice try pulling victim card Sherlock
Agree
We have members here who do not have an email address. Is there a way for them to use there landline phone to vote?
It was stated that there will be
I use to be pro Cupw. Everything you’ve done…your so wonderful in your dillisional minds. A better union would have gotten the inmates more and no work stoppage. Vote YES and the get rid of CUPW and all its uneducated supporters.
Cupw won’t be going anywhere lol
The vote is NOT to decertify the union. Its a vote on a useless contract. Your voting yes has nothing to do with that. In fact voting yes and you are shooting yourself in the foot
Really. If you support Cupw you must be really impressed informing everyone they got maternity pay 40 yrs ago..wow.. impressive…and very little since. Talk about desperate Cupw is hearing stories that YES vote will win big time that’s why they are bringing up materity pay…40 yrs ago.
Every contract in the past was voted on by the members. The majority said yes, now your complaining that the Union got us nothing but maternity leave. The same thing will happen in the future; in 2028, you’ll be the first to complain of the crappy contract you accepted!
The majority never voted and the votes were never independently verified.
That is true. That’s why CUPW always has 95% support for their strike votes. It’s only those who can stand the 45 minute CUPW propoganda meeting that are allowed to vote. Then CUPW was always un charge of counting all the votes. Now finally we have a fair vote where every member gets a say.
You still had a right to vote on the contract before it was signed. Most of the complaining commenters never participated in a meeting.
I have been refused my ballot for 20 years because I refused to listen to the useless meeting. CUPW get this voting rule changed AND modernize your voting procedures, you will will get much more participants
Then they have no right to complain
You don’t seem like you participate in meetings just complain against everything that the Union does.
If the majority never voted why are they complaining?
No most of the time they didnt…We lost severance pay,sick time etc and many other things because of arbitrated contracts.A 44 year ago win (which really was a huge victory)doesn’t count for anything in this day and age,half the workforce wasnt even born…They need to revamp CUPW…Get them out of their 1980s way of thinking and into the present.They had their 15 minutes of FAME!
You’re wrong the offer was put up for the membership to decide.
You’re giving them credit by saying 15 minutes of fame, more like a mention would be suffice.. Useless Union can’t negotiate.. 44 years ago is their victory, they keep telling everyone Mat leave like its a real accomplishment in 2025..😂
I had a weak moment and thought well ill be nice by giving them their 15 minutes!😂😉
So your blaming the Union for arbitration decisions? Your wrong to so that!
Well said, they will complain against on what they approved today
In a couple of years we will hear from all these complaining “members” that today’s contract offer was the worse decision the Union made. They will quickly forget they voted for it.
Today’s Anonymous approving this offer, will be tomorrow’s Anonymous complaining about this contract!
So is the vote gonna be next week. I have my elbows up and ready to vote.
Because im involved with two groups Cpc employer and Cupw union,am I allowed to vote twice?
Welcome to July. I promise not to make uneducated useless comments. The executives of Cpc and Cupw have that market cornered.
Recently retired from CPC but if I could vote I would take the contract and run with it. Through poor managment this company has hit rock bottom and needs to rebuild. A letter carriers world is going to look very different but the biggest loser in all this will be the public. Any form of reliable service getting your mail delivered will be impossible because the new role of the letter carrier will become horrific.
it has nothing to do with poor management, and everything to do with the deals management signed with CUPW years and years ago allowing unlimited overtime and employees to go home after they deliver their 2 hours of mail and get paid 8 hours regardless of how much time they are actually working.
Please consider 55 000 CUPW/RSMC employees, and calculate how much losses the company is absorbing due to employees working 1/4 – 1/2 of their shift and being paid 8 hours regardless.
This is called trapped time and alongside the unlimited overtime offered to LC’s, and has costed the corporation billions in losses over the past 10 years.
Only management could’ve controlled the runners it’s normal for an employee to take advantage of the opportunity to work fast and cut corners. Stop complaining about the cost when managers encourage LC to rush and finish early. CP could’ve try to modified collective agreement long time ago by not permitting OT on regular time, they never tried.
This contract has everything to do with CPC mismanagement. By the way, the days of being done in 4 hours has been over for a long time now. Overtime will be history as well with this contract
Canada Post makes the route measurement system that creates an 8 hour work day based on averages. Canada Post is in control of restructure schedules to make changes to routes. This is their way of structuring routes, their system that they created.
(Not many letter carriers were getting done before 8 hours where I work before Canada Post tanked their business and sent their business to Purolator and competitors.)
The only way workers finish early is if they “run”, are efficient because they know where all the mailboxes are, are familiar with traffic patterns, have organized their mail & parcels so many times they don’t need to number everything to run the mail in order of delivery, eat as they are delivering. …instead LCs are supposed to wait for the computer or a supervisor to figure out how the mail and parcels will be added together to give out with no union input, or a plan in place, when currently supervisors have issues prioritizing mail for workers?? This is a nightmare. I can’t imagine it will be good for customer service either. Customers will no longer know when to expect their mail, efficiency and safety worsens. LCs having to be extra vigilant not knowing where all the hazards are, taking longer to find addresses/locations. Seniority was supposed to allow you to bid on routes, and as you age and your body starts breaking down, hopefully you could self accomodate yourself on a route that would work. Now as you age, guess what CPC says get out the door. Thanks for your 25 years of service, so what about your seniority, everyone can deal with a crappy system, get further injured &/or leave. And this is no system for new workers…this is a system for CPC to have a constantly changing, revolving workforce – where noone stays for long. Don’t have to worry about higher wages, benefits, increases to annual leave because workers will leave within 5 years or will have to work additional part-time jobs.
This is the start to the attack on every position and worker in Canada Post…while managers keep receiving bonuses.
Only our labour costs have stayed pretty steady, not increasing…while Canada Post spends billions on carbon offsets, planting trees, investing, building mega plants, increasing their networth…but workers are supposed to roll over, and Canadians are supposed to accept sub par services. No Thank-you.
Canadians and workers Deserve MORE.
If anyone wants to save their jobs, they will do the right thing and support the negotiators who are doing their job – showing up to the negotiating table as we have sent them in to do.
They can figure out the overtime issues at the negotiating table or arbitration.
This is no time to accept Canada Post circumventing the union.
Great comment, thank you!
The Route Measurement System was created in a collaborative effort between cpc AND cupw.
I’m voting YES to the offer. Not because it’s a good offer ,it’s not. But I’m against Cupw they’ve nothing in the last 20 yrs . I know I started 20 yrs ago
It’s sad CUPW just put out a puff piece stating how great they are cause they got us Maternity leave over 40 years. Pretty sad since then all they have is failures.
Every contract in the past was voted on by the members. The majority said yes, now your complaining that the Union got us nothing. The same thing will happen in the future, in 2028, you’ll be the first to complain.
How many contracts were actually voted on, and how many went to arbitration. And how many times did we got less through arbitration because cupw refused to let us vote on an offer that they said “fell short”. I have been a cupw member since mid 90’s and this union negotiation team is the biggest cluster f*** I have seen. This is why we are getting an actual voice this time, government is frustrated, public is frustrated and so are cupw members.
So you’re pension is coming fast and you don’t care if the work force is greatly reduced and less workers are paying in that pension fund. You sound like one of those runners that didn’t care about the future then and still don’t care now. The public is frustrated seeing delivery personnel rushing all the time and quality of the service non existent.
A yes vote won’t decertify CUPW. It will just saddle you with a crappy contract. And even if you manage to decertify CUPW later, your new representative will just get to start negotiating for you from that crappier position. I’m voting no to management’s final offer.
I can’t wait for the results so that all the members can go back to working together and supporting each other. Because no matter who wins ,we all will rise above the insanity that this vote has brought. United we stand.
Vote no and rise to a better contract.
I am willing to vote YES if they bring back OT. I am willing to vote NO if they bring back OT. I am willing to continue being indecisive until I can make a decision one way or another.
Happy Canada Day. Vote NO if your the elbows up crowd. Vote yes if you are a realist.
I’m with the Champ.. Voting YES
I agree with you. The pros outweigh the cons with this offer, so I’m voting ‘yes’. Unfortunately CUPW groupies have never been realists. Let’s hope that the ‘yes’ side is in the majority and get this vote over with.
I’ve been working 5 hours a day for a few years now on my schedule. It’s been a great run and I’ve always been prepared for it to come to an end when someone realizes how criminal it is allowing me to continue this way. The problem is that no one seems to care and no changes get made. It’s hard to point the finger at me when the people in charge of running this company don’t seem to care or know how to implement proper changes.
What is your point?
Vote no if you want Canada Post management from taking away your job security, safety, rights, and benefits.
You can either be a doormat to the corporation who have been rewarding the wrong people (management) or fight to improve your workers pay and working conditions.
The choice is yours.
The ones CUPW ever helps are the lazy and the cheaters.
Those of us who work will cheer when they are kicked out the door!!
CUPW has always done a good job of protecting terrible workers. They do next to nothing for good workers.
The only question is who should be fired at CPC after we register a NO vote?
The real question is who should be fired from CUPW after YES wins? Everyone on the NEB and their minions
If only that would happen, it would be great. If the NEB had any pride they would all resign. But we know that will never happen Lol.
voting yes, I support decertifying CUPW
The vote is not for decertifying the union. It’s for a crappy contract. If you people don’t realize that we are all screwed because you don’t even know what you’re voting on or for or just out of spite.
Who will replace CUPW after the YES vote??
Won’t matter really. If yes wins it’s the beginning of the end of good full time jobs. Will become part time casual eventually. No gauranteeing hours if at all, minimum wage and no benefits
CPC CEO/President and other executives.
Plus CUPW NEB.
For the person posting about dhl ratifying there agreement.
Haw they stuck it out and all…
Dhl is a profitable company where cpc is in dire circumstances financially…thats what our union seems to want to ignore…well if its a no vote does anybody think that the feds are going to ignore that when it goes to arbitration?
Just consider that when you vote.
There is no way in hell we do worse in arbitration that the current pathetic offer. Zero. Nada. None. CUPW’s demands are not over burdensome from a financial perspective. CPC is a viable company from a debt/equity view, and the company can turn a profit if properly managed. The thinking that causing endless harm to employees is only way CPC will be profitable again is flawed.
Correct, all these CUPW lies they feed all the delusional people, who have no idea the situation we are in, because of their failed Strike attempts and nonsense over 5 minute wash time.. Let them go see how real people have to work at minimum wage
DHL pretended to be broke too. Also wanted to be considered an essential service so that they could use 108 to force a vote. Also wanted the government to let them use scabs. Any arbitrator worth his weight will investigate CPC and see all the misdirection. CPC knows this too that is why they are adverse to letting an arbitrator settle the contract.
Vote NO.
Vote Yes. Whatever those humps in NEB recommend, vote the opposite.
Very good advice. The NEB are the exact opposite of good workers.
CPC can be a profitable company.
It’s the incompetence displayed by CPC executives and management.
They refuse to listen to their employees on suggestions how to make Canada Post more successful and profitable because they don’t value us as people.
Hence, the crappy final offer.
Just vote no and hope someone comes to their senses and fires the incompetence by CPC executives and management.
You are both correct and incorrect in your statements.
You are right about nobody caring about CUPW’s, you are the largest group of complainers and have outrageous demands that put the company on the brink of bankruptcy. CPC does not care about you all for good reason. We would be better off letting you all go, and replacing the workforce with new faces who will not complain, will not feel entitled, and not make outrageous demands.
You are incorrect saying management is incompetent, most if not all management employees are actually highly educated and experienced, and if so incompetent, why did you not join management to make a difference?
WOMP WOMP WOoOoOoOoOoOMP
Maybe we didn’t want to go through the lobotomy and spend the rest of our career as a yes man/woman agreeing to everything that we were told to do
CUPW,this may sound like a ridiculous demand because your Demands always make sense😉🤭Could you demand now that our pets become dependents under our insurance plan?! And while you’re at it,maybe they can become unionized!!!
Love the passion from everyone. Whether you vote NO or YES or dont give a who ha ,the fact your excited about a cause just shows how much this vote means to you.
We haven’t delivered the Canadian Tire flyers for two weeks, does anyone know what’s going on?
They’re being delivered door to door.. Customers losing faith in post office, because CUPW spreading lies and risking all our jobs and businesses to go elsewhere..
🤔
Good riddance, what a waste of paper. What we get paid for them doesn’t cover the Advil I have to take to get rid of the pain they cause
Every one has to update your email and vote. Company lost the revenue, Union get their fees without any deduction. I suggest union fees has to deduct according to the company loss, so please add this demand in your voting. Reduce union fee according to the loss (y/n).
Wouldn’t that be nice.
How about reduce CUPW spending on book offs and speech interpreters?
It’s unbelievable that CUPW is so behind on technology?
Have they never heard of Apple, Microsoft or Google Dictation on their phones or tablets where speech can be interpreted into text or text to spoken word?
It’s sad that CUPW cries and whines about Canada Post not so supplying a sign language interpreter during their coffee breaks for their meeting with members when they can use technology to help communicate?
I forgot they are still living in the 1980s slurping their Slurpee.
Don’t worry I am still voting No. CPC management’s offer still sucks.
How about focusing on the contract at hand and finding ways to improve that contract or position instead of incessantly whining and complaing about the union which may I remind you, that you are also part of
Janitors and cleaners are paid by another company ,outsourced. However ,others such as food drivers and drug runners and people who provide pleasure need to be part of the last offer and they are not. Soon as Canada Post puts them in the offer I will vote YES until then I’m voting NO.
How about CUPW increase membership by unionizing street performers and street walkers instead of increasing our union dues.
These people provide pleasure to a large group of the Canadian population. Plus, they can perform seniors check ups or check-ins.
😂😂
To all the people who are making funny comments and are being sarcastic, I only have one thing to say…….THANK YOU VERY VERY MUCH! It’s kept me laughing and sane . Don’t ever stop!
The results of the vote are in – Members at DHL Express Canada have ratified a new four-year agreement by 72%, ending the lockout and strike.
It’s been a tough few weeks and we are so proud of our locals and membership for sticking it out, day-after-day on picket lines across the country, never backing down.
The new contract features a 15.75% increase in wages throughout the life of the contract, a new payment structure for owner-operators, pension increases for hourly workers and a new pension for owner-operators.
In addition, there are increases to short and long-term disability payments, a new mental health benefit, increases to severance, wage adjustments and much-desired language around AI, robotics and automatic, and improved work-from-home language.
This dispute underscored the importance of federal anti-scab legislation, hard fought for by Unifor, that came into effect during this dispute.
It marked a historic moment for our union as we became the first test case under the new law, standing firm to ensure companies were not above it. Our union and members stood tall and held strong, and the end result was a fair collective agreement that addresses the needs of DHL workers across all job classifications.
Did they also contract in Janitors ? If not CUPW Will said they failed or sold out
That’s DHL and Unifor.
Canada Post executives and CUPW are different.
Neither have been working in the complete best interest of its workers and company’s future.
Both have been greedy and working for their own best interests.
However, a NO vote could possibly be our best bet to send this conflict into binding arbitration which should have if the union had agreed to before the strike happened in November.
Bottom line vote NO so binding arbitration can take place and both the union and CPC can at least meet in the middle. We can possibly get the same as DHL.
The same union that cost over 2000 workers their job, go celebrate on your own platform . What a joke even bringing that information here, Unifor as useless as CUPW
I’m voting yes, because CP needs to change and also we need Jon security! Thought out the decades Canada post adapted to the times, remember when Carriers used to sort all the mail and take them 3 hours to do so? Eventually machines sorted out most of the mail, also eventually carriers started to deliver flyers with mail and Parcels…. So what is the issue now?? Canada post needs to change if we want to compete ! Whoever doesn’t see this either needs to go work inside the plant, or go find another job.
You’re right. We’re working and living in 2025, not the 1970s. If CUPW had accepted that we need to hange they could have got all members better wages and benefits. Instead, we had a useless six-week strike. Canada Post will change and modernize no matter how much our union whines and cries.
They blame the jobs minister for the CIRB website mishaps. The union says if the minister had chosen to go back to the negotiating table; that we wouldn’t have to suffer this confusion.
Yet the union forgets the fact that if they negotiated a better deal for us in 2022 that maybe just maybe we wouldn’t of needed to go on strike in 2024. Think Mcflies think!
Admit that union screwed up back in 2022.
You need to grow a pair and learn to stand up for yourself because these guys will chew you up and spit you out
This guy is not an actual postal worker.
He’s only a poser who want to stir the pot by making it look like people will actually vote yes on this crappy final contract.
Whatever you do, just VOTE NO.
Remember how cpc bought over priced ready for the garbage USPS sorting machines? Another example of money flushed down the toilet. If you werent here then don’t even bother to comment because you had to be here then to even know what this means
Jon security?
Are we prostitutes or something?
Canada Post is trying to undo all the good the union has done in the past.
The current union is weak and useless, but by voting yes you are giving CPC the ability to take away all the work conditions and benefits the union had fought hard and won in the past.
Anyone who votes yes, is a Judas to all union members. Go ahead and be selfish, it will end up biting you in the butt. Afterwards, you’ll be crying that the union is not protecting your workers rights and there will be no JOB SECURITY.
Well brothers and sisters of CUPW cult, the past of the union and it’s great achievements shall rest in our memories but is long gone, let’s leave it to the past. The future requires restructuring and adjusting. It’s time to pass from the old to writing a new union testament.
This message is brought to you by CPC
CPC stated they wouldn’t change job security their current offer. If a no vote wins, then there goes the job security.
CUPW spreading lies and misinformation. Job security will be there if contract is accepted, also if a No vote is majority, the fools thinks we’ll get more money, keep wash time, but we lose signing Bonus, lose 7th week of annual, kiss PRE-RETIREMENT goodbye.
CPC stated they wouldn’t change job security “” in their current offer.”” Translation: vote yes now and just sign on to this offer with only some little tiny roll backs. But come next contract we will screw employees over like never seen before
CPC lie. By accepting this offer you risk the chance of losing every offer.
CUPW made the mistake of accepting a contract extension two years ago, basically leaving the door open for fair negotiations.
If we vote NO we can make sure someone in CPC management gets laid off for causing the corporation for making bad decisions and losing business to our competitors like uni, dragonfly, Caspar, Stallion, Fleet Optics, and etc.
It’s either us or them.
Vote yes, we lose our rights to negotiate in future contracts. Hence, we can more easily our job security.
Vote no, we stop CPC abuse their power to force us to accept any garbage contract they give us.
Your choice.
You are probably right
How about improving their services to enable customers to do others business transactions like banking and sell other products online like Canadian souvenirs (t-shirts, cups, mugs, blankets, postcards, calendars, stationery, and etc.) that promote the Canada Post brand?
Look at Canadian Tires, Costco, McDonald, Tim Hortons, Jollibees, etc.
All these companies have company logo merchandise that promote their company and highly sought after by collectors and the general public.
Canada Post has so many chances to compete with other logistics companies, but refuse to take the chance because of bad leadership and poor execution.
You’re kidding right? Postal banking again, and souvenir merch, hilarious. Are you a member of the CUPW NEB?
Sounds like he is brain storming ideas. Somebody has to. Cpc just throws their collective arms in the air and says, “uh oh”. If you don’t like the unions ideas, post some of your own. You probably are not qualified either but give it a shot. You might be the solution.
Hey genius.
I am not pro CUPW and definitely not pro CPC.
How is Canada Post going to be profitable to pay for your paycheck that CPC claims to not be able to afford?
You need to have a look in the mirror and realize you might be out of a job as soon CPC goes bankrupt due to mismanagement and intense competition from other delivery services.
Letter mail has become obsolete and we have to compete with other delivery services to who are way cheaper than us.
Why don’t you come up with a plan to improve Canada Post?
If you can’t come up with a better plan, just quit or retire before things get worse.
1) Why isn’t the union pushing to have members sign up for the vote? Curious.
2) How many members voted to give the union the right to strike? Our Local had strict rules about who got to vote. You had to be at the meeting. You had to listen to the complete union presentation (anyone even a minute late didn’t get to vote. My guess would be 10% of our local got to vote. Possibly that is an accurate number for across the country? 10% got us into a strike position?
I hope a for a large turn out for this vote so it is the members that get to decide.
Of course CUPW never makes it easy to vote. Can you imagine them holding a strike vote online? Most of the people who can stand sitting through their horrible 45 minutes of propoganda are CUPW groupies. That’s the reason they always get 95% support for their strike votes. Now for once CUPW can’t control the vote. We will get a fair and true result.
Of course cupw never makes it easy to vote.
Now for once cupw can’t control the vote.
Aren’t you contradicting yourself?
Not at all. We usually are only allowed to vote on offers approved by rhe CUPW NEB. In that case, they are controlling rhe vote. Now they aren’t. Why is that hard to understand?
Bad CUPW leadership since they keep flip flopping on their position on negotiations. They refused arbitration in November, now they want it since things are not going their way.
Plus, the OT ban is stupid since it prevents workers from earning extra on the paycheck.
CPC management is no better, since they keep blame workers for revenue losses when they are tell customers to take their business elsewhere.
Just say yes to the ot. It’s ridiculous the union is telling us not to.
Don’t worry about consequences lol
There will be none.
Ot will be gone with what CPC has planned
CUPW doesn’t care if members are losing money. Every full-time member lost more than $5000 in part-one of our useless strike. As long as the union is ‘right’, that’s all that matters. Oh, also free trips to Cuba Lol:)
Fun fact, nobody had to tell customers to go elsewhere. They already left and made their own decision, helped of course by their friends at FedEx and UPS who were all too happy to point out the clown show going on here. When you act unreliable, you become unusable.
Those companies managers know’s that the quality of work their employees offer is what sells. Our bosses should have put the brakes on those straight and corner cutting by the runners instead of encouraging it.
How could they hold a vote online? Thats not the CUPW way! Computers have memory!!!! Cant lie as easy!
Just vote no, so we can get at 15.75% like DHL if things end up in binding arbitration.
Yes means you agree to be a slave to the corporation and CPC executives end up getting bigger bonuses for defeating us postal workers.
Regardless how you vote, CUPW will end up increasing your union dues so they can plan trips to their next vacation which will probably be Cancun or Hawaii and a two year supply of Slurpees before the next contract negotiations.
If you wanted a say go to the meeting and vote, that simple
Good luck to all.
25 yr lc here, I’m voting No. but if the majority go for a yes, it doesn’t affect me. It’s gonna be fun to watch though, since most don’t want to be LC’s anymore, and there will be way less inside positions. Just gonna cruise to the end now. Sorry suckers
Don’t worry about it. I’m a 30 yr LC and I agree. We’ve done our time. The results will be entertaining no matter what.
voting yes
Can’t wait for the APOC cuts after all this
I have a superintendent that comes and goes when they want, 3 supervisors who do god knows what, and a staffing supervisor. All just on smoke breaks 🤡
Barely ever need to speak to any of them…that’s just one of 5 stations in here
Great job managing folks!
We will save a bundle if we just have AI supervisors
And Ai to replace the useless PO4’S who don’t work.. So many couch masters couldn’t do the carriers job if they tried.. like those useless carriers running their routes to finish early, can’t wait to see their routes extended. This whole mess is the workers and CUPW nonsense.. I’m voting Yes to see the carriers work 8hrs a day and voting Yes so the inside workers are as useless as they get and will be forced to work without overtime because useless union Banned them
It’s easy to manage LCs when they are now working 2, 3 hours a day, instead of the overburdened 4 hours a day.
Not our fault 😉
Update: Did some polling. It seems currently it’s 47 No and 46 yes.
See if anyone knows the true meaning of those numbers?
Including tariffs
voting yes
I think I got it. I’ll let someone get it though. It’s obvious.
That’s wrong Champ, it’s actually 65%-70% voting Yes, barely anyone voting No and a lot too stupid to figure out how to vote .😂 CUPW is a joke and hoping less people vote so they can put their No narrative. Can’t wait to see them blame everyone else for failed negotiations again after arbitration…
I hope you’re right and I can’t wait to vote. I’ll vote ‘yes’ to the offer and ‘yes’ to decertify CUPW.
Yes Vote…based on the current offer of CanadaPost
NO Vote…based on any offer of CanadaPost
DHL got a 15 % raise.
12 % increase is low ball by CPC.
You must be a sucker for accepting less than your worth.
Plus, no more working 4 hours and being paid for 8 hours.
We could get 15 percent increase through binding arbitration if the NOs win.
Plus, the CPC is purposely turning away customers and losing business to destabilize our workers rights in future negotiations.
Great job in falling into CPC’s trap.
CUPW NEB are no better, since they want to prolong the conflict so they don’t lose face. They should supporting the vote instead of whining and crying about it. Great job CUPW president.
You’re dreaming if you think we’ll somehow get more than Canada Post’s offer in arbitration. CUPW could have gotten us more than 12% last fall before the strike, if they had been reasonable. Please remember their ridiculous demand was 32% eventually falling to 23% after four weeks of the strike. If they’d started with 19 or 20% they could have settled at 16%. But the NEB isn’t smart enough to do that.
You clearly don’t know how to negotiate
DHL is a very profitable company. End of discussion.
They are don’t have the same clueless manager than we have, that’s why they are profitable!
All registered and waiting to vote no.
How do you think the vote will go. ? It’s leaning Yes I think.
No and no
To quote Dr. Evil. “How about nooooo!
How about too bad, we’re voting YES..
all setup and ready to vote yes
All setup and ready to vote hard no!!!
Why is it always ‘hard’ no? Does that means the easy and smart choice is to vote ‘yes’?
Why is always smart yes when nothing could be farther from the truth, you just dont see it. An unequivocal NO. Is that better?
All registered and waiting to vote ‘yes’.
Yes x 1000 here!
Here’s a breakdown if union dues..pays for Cupw rent ,bills ,staff ,salaries benefits,trips ,hotels ,food drink fun etc. So basically we are the employer for Cupw each month through union dues which is the equivalent of Canada Post being our employer by paying us every two weeks. In conclusion,we all help one way or another to have some kinda life.
Ok just got back from my vacation with Cupw executives who want to thank the members for paying for their vacation through union dues. And when union dues increase shortly they will thank you again for their upcoming winter vacation.
So true. CUPW has done such a terrible job that they’ve only settled two contracts since 1965. We can be assured they’ll still raise our dues after this, their latest failure.
Ok just got back from my vacation with CPC executives who want to thank the members for paying for their vacation through their hard work and being underpaid so they could bonus themselves. . And when wages continue to stagnate shortly they will thank you again for their upcoming next round of bonuses
Just found out CN TOWER workers in Toronto locked out my mgmt. Apparently workers want more money,better benefits,improved working conditions and to be treated better. So if they asked for the opposite would they have been locked out? Hum
First,HAPPY BIRTHDAY CANADA!
Secondly ,vote YES or NO it’s up to you.
Lastly but most important it may shock people that here in Toronto and certain in all cities there are those who are not so fortunate. You don’t have to listen to an old …like me but every paycheck I give 20 dollars to local food bank, and puts things into perspective as how lucky I am to be able to help others. Something to think about between all your anger and disparaging comments about Cpc and Cupw. Thank You and
be grateful for what you have cause many of us are only two paychecks away from needing food banks.
Thank you for your generosity. Your post may be the best one yet.
I truly understand being grateful for what one has and agree with you. The world would be a better place if more thought like that. However there comes a point where one also has to fight to maintain or improve what one has. Its called ambition and striving for better for oneself and their family. Its how life works. Life is supposed to improve and get easier as one ages, makes more money and becomes wiser. Nothing wrong with any of that. The fact that CP wants turn back the clock on all of those points after years of their ineptitude off our backs is where I draw the line. NO
✋🤚
CUPW is Canada Post undertaker
CPC management is the corporation killer.
CUPW is incompetent
Cpc is morally bankrupt voting themselves bonuses off our backs
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so true
Vote YES, vote often.
Don’t vote at all , and system automatically default a YES vote for you.
Vote NO and we join the ex Bay employees.
Vote often? We only get one vote each. Don’t lower yourself to corporation never ending employee attacking sub standards
Those who vote YES and lose what will you do to cope?
Those who vote NO and lose what will you do to cope?
Those who don’t vote what will you do to cope?
It has been proven when a vote for anything grows nearer people tend to become anxious,paranoid,panicky and heath issues. You see you have something to look forward to weather you vote Y or N.
If someone can give me the winning lottery numbers and I’ll vote any way you want. Ps yes I’ll share some of the winnings with you.
Thank you cupw for everything you got the workers….20 yrs ago. Everything has changed and you are no longer relevant. CPC WE THE SMART WORKERS ARE VOTING,………..YESSSSSSSS!
Their ideas are mostly outdated. That’s the main problem with CUPW.
As are your comments. Worry about the vote today and worry about what if anything you intend to do which is likely nothing, with regards to union issues after this is all settled
Well I would sign a petition to decertify CUPW, if that’s what you’re asking Lol.
Just as I figured. You’ll sign assuming someone else starts it. Outside of big talk no action to back it up. I dont care either way but just tired of all the anti cupw rhetoric babies who talk and do NOTHING and will all disappear once this is over regardless of outcome
Well said
another smart comment, thankyou!!!
CUPW did get stuff for workers back in the day,ill give them that.But they cant accept their “GLORY DAYS” are over and by being stuck in 1985 instead of 2025, theres no reasoning with them and unless they finally wake up and see the world for what it really is,theyll never be reasonable!
“Yes” and “smart” are an oxymoron when applied in this context to not mention offensive to those who dont see things “your way”. In fact it serves to prove how some truly don’t realize what’s at stake here when looking at the big picture in which the cons outweigh the pros. I don’t wish to tell you how vote but don’t assume yes is the smart way just because of cpc window dressing and a dangling carrot signing bonus which will more than all be taken away and then even more in the next few years if not months. Please everyone make an informed vote and not one just out of spite. History will prove this moment will be a major turning point in our collective lives either way.
Vote yes to bring us back to the 1930s, it’s what CPC management wants, where you have no rights. Then you’ll truly be irrelevant.
No!!! All the way!
Another blunder for the Liberal Government and Corporation on electronic voting hosted by CIRB. All this effort to force a vote and we can’t even register to vote .How about we do it in a reliable method by paper ballots and have them counted by reliable people with Union and Corporate observers.
Why is it a blunder? The vote hasn’t even happened yet. To me it’s infinitely better than being locked in a room and having to listen to 45 minutes of CUPW propoganda before I vote. Then having CUPW be in charge of counting rhe ballots was even worse.
If CUPW held vote it would be 94-96 No. This process will be fair.
You have posted multiple things similar to this comment already
I agree. By doing it electronically, the minister of jobs and families is showing how obsolete Canada Post has become when it comes to paper ballots that you mail in.
First, the union was against an arbitration in October 2024, now it persuades its members to vote in the aim to achieve an arbitration procedure.
Then, the union advocated for one of the parties that won the electrions, now it critisizes the way the same government fulfills its legal duties caracterizing it as “interfierence and CPC support”.
Somethig is wrong with union?
That’s so true. If CUPW had accepted arbitration in October 2024, there would have been no strike. Every full-time worker would not have lost $5000+ dollars. Canada Post would not habe lost $200 million in holiday business. It seems like CUPW never wants to compromise and wants negotiations to go on forever. I’m sure the NEB enjoys all the free hotels, meals etc. But this attitude hurts our company and all of us as workers. Now finally, we have a chance to vote and end this nonsense. CUPW is no longer in control, we the workers are. I can’t wait to vote!
The same workers that rushed and running all the time to finish earlier than the day before without realizing what damage that caused now want to vote not realizing the damage it will cause. And the day after the implementation of the new contract they will just continue complaining against the Union for the crap they voted for.
Very well said!
This is very true.
Or it could be CPC not bargaining in good faith?
Oh, you probably mean the “notorious” CUPW negotiation proposals (e.g. janitors) that were pushed firsthand, but hidden from it’s members? I appreciate CPC publicly disclosure of these proposals, that were rejected but caused much impediment and delay in addressing other essential matters like salaries. It’s the union not representing in good faith it’s members, and if they knew all the hidden proposals, it’s doubtful there could a majority strike vote.
Did you watch the Kaplan inquiry? What we really need is the Supreme Court of Canada to expose the corporation for its corruption. Instead we have a corporate yes man to scold the union for existing in a rich mans game. Let’s just give up all our rights and gains of the last 3 decades and let them have all the money for any whim that may overtake them.
Investigate Canada Post
An investigation of CP would find a company investing into needed modernized plants and updating processes to increase safety and efficiency.
So (opposite of) smart, hard working people don’t put their hands on the belt while product is moving and get them cut off because they are too distracted with talking to their coworkers.
Hence, more accommodations to people into jobs that require little to no work.
That’s exactly right. How about investigate CUPW for misuse of $67 million per year in member’s dues.
A drop in to the ocean compared to how much CPC management has misspent! $867 million last year!
Increase safety and efficiency?!? By zipping up your vest and installing telematics while bonusing all mngmt?Do me a favor. They don’t care about us in the slightest. The last 2 years have more than proved that
OK then. You said it. It was an investment, not a loss. FINALLY.
This message is brought to you by CPC.
Canada Government Departments are corrupt .We can’t even get the human rights commission to make valid cases and case law against CPC .
They all protect each other and downplay the charges for a backroom deal .While victims sign non disclosure agreement to save the Corporation embarrassing fallout.
I do agree CPC needs a major financial audit and penalties for its bad conduct .
How could management justify any bonus after the numbers they put up? Remember our bonus system years ago when they gave us goals and we met them? They gave us I think 2 bonus cheques then reneged on the whole deal. Pointed out that in the fine print CPC had the power to not pay the bonuses if they felt the profit margin wasn’t where they wanted it to be. That is the company we are dealing with. We took a percentage cut in our contract in lieu of this bonus system then they kept the money for themselves.
Do you not realize that CUPW was always completely against those bonus cheques. Just as they have been totally against payments for flyers for many years (CUPW has always wanted time-values only). Our union has also been against voluntary overtime in principle and has now ‘banned’ it all together. The reason CUPW is against all these things? They don’t want any workers to be rewarded for working faster or better than their fellow workers. Don’t blame the company for agreeing to things CUPW has always demanded.
Imagine the money CP would have saved not implementing those bonuses checks. The flyers payment started with LCUC union and was and still is a bad decision. Working faster is the reason CP lost the confidence of the public. The only way you finish early is when you cut corners and the public is affected by those bad working habits.
Yes cpc would prefer to give bonuses over percentage increases because in the long term bonuses are cheaper for them. The union never ever demanded it. I blame cpc.
Yes cpc prefers to pay flyer bonuses over time values for the same reason. Non pensionable earnings. The union never demanded it. I blame cpc.
The union has never been against voluntary OT.
Equal pay for equal work.
Your statement is made up jibberish.
I cannot believe they pay you managerial wage.
Agree!
Oh yeah the corporate team incentive! Yeah that went well…
If you’re here to say you’re voting No because of 5 minutes wash time, you better go find another job, because nobody giving you that, also I’ve seen the majority of people not even wash their hands anyway.. Some of you think that 5 minutes will clean you up, how about taking a shower before you come to work
It doesnt matter which way you vote- the matter at hand is that you GET to – FINALLY!
Vote based on your situation/ convictions and choices
The Union will always be splintered and broken regardless of it was an imposed vote or not
I asked a union rep why we do not get to vote on each and every offer – the answer was that we have ” selected democracy”- that sealed it for me
‘Selected’, in other words you can vote for an offer only after the NEB says it’s in agreement. Well not this time. Now we the workers get ti decide. It’s about time.
Just reading some of the comments because there’s nothing good on tv and my husband is watching grass grow. I see the warmth and unification amongst the members and obviously they are proud to be part of Cupw. It’s definitely a NO all the way.
You mean ‘yes’ all the way.
It’s gonna be 59% yes vote. Just remember who told ya first
Does that include tarrifs?
As long as it’s 50%+ 1, it’s fine by me.
No comment.
I can relate to those who comment on having trouble making decisions because they lack confidence. Being indecisive is just like any disorder makes life difficult. When voting time arrives I hope my indecisiveness doesn’t prevent me from voting YES…or NO…
I lmao when I read comments that say members are united and we are fighting for our future not just present. Here’s a question how many of your workers are helping you with your mortgage,bills,food property tax,gas,walmart etc. How many? None that’s right. Fight for yourself not your fellow workers who couldn’t give a bleep about you.
Perfectly stated, exactly how I feel.
You got that right! None of my co-workers are paying my bills and Im not paying theirs! Im voting for myself not others that dont even work there yet.TOTAL NONSENSE!
You’ve got that right. Everyone has different personal, career and family priorities. Some workers are close to retirement, some 25 years away. Please remember every offer we’ve ever voted on has had pros and cons. Balance everything and make the best decision for you and your family, not your so-called ‘brothers and sisters ‘ who aren’t actually your brothers and sisters.
And if those that came before you felt the same way you’d be making peanuts with zero security and no benefits. The reason you can pay for your mortgage, food, property taxes, gas, Walmart, etc is because people way less selfish than you made it possible for you!
We had NO CHOICE but to go out and support the Union and by the way I started in 1990 and am leaving soon but no one cared about us as jrs,temps,pt so I guess its a vicious circle and when push comes to shove people will look out for #1 no matter how they try to convince people they’re fighting for “THE CAUSE”
Think please. All we have done the last 25 years is get less and less. Severance pay gone, sick time gone, two tier wage and pension. The people before us took the gravy and left us the bones. Yes CUPW did get mat leave in the 80s. Those were the glory days. Now we are a glory hole. And that’s why I am still the ….
And today that’s on the CUPW website,about getting Mat leave 44 years ago! And I did appreciate it but only got to use it once! 😉But see they’re trying to sway people’s opinions look WHAT WE DID! Glory Days folks! But I agree with you they’ve put us in a Glory Hole unfortunately
Yep. You are what you say you are. Take a look on the streets. Have you ever seen so many homeless people? They are living in parks everywhere. We are all connected like it or not. Consider cause and effect. When people have had enough they will become your problem to deal with. They will reflect your selfish attitude and you will have reaped what you have sown.
Right on. The Champ and I are with ya.
Me too
No more comments. I can’t take it. It’s too addicting. I will need therapy more then usual. On a happier note,I’m less indecisive about voting YES or NO and not really sure which way to vote.
I’m thinking about putting together an infomercial on how to really fool all the people, all the time. Who would be better at it,Cpc ,Cupw or both together. There is nothing good to watch on the radio so I let’s do an infomercial.
CUPW, because they don’t show us anything, no transparency or where millions percent month goes.. They’re the epitome of BS..
I have no problem with early retirement buyout as long as I can continue working full time with all the perks.
I will never make any comments telling you I watch the Real Housewives of Canada Post starring Cupw.
Many of the comments are disparaging and disrespectful. Are we so primitive that we have lowered ourselves to a caveman mentality? Vote
1. YES
2. NO
3. DONT GIVE A RATS …..
I like members that say if you vote yes your stupid or misinformed. If you vote No your courages and are saving the free world.
I guess I am voting YES!
CIRB is working to improve the process of registering emails so members can get a pin number ,they hope to finish by Christmas. Wow that’s fast for a govt agency.
Before the vote ,I had indecisive issues but since the vote was set they have gone away. Now im just not sure.
I sort of understand what you mean, maybe:)
Just tell me how many times do i have say the same prapaganda and lies til you workers understand that Cpc and Cupw are only here to make ourselves richer. Bonuses ,vacations,ivory tower with air conditioning and benefits that are second to none. Cmon we don’t want keep repeating the same thing over and over and over again because that would be redundent. This prapagonda was a joint effort by Cpc and Cupw. Working together for a brighter future for our members.
As a union we feel betrayed by our members. After all we got you good wages, benefits,pensions,opportunities ,etc and you bad mouth us every chance you get on every platform. And now with voting on the horizon ,you wanna kick us out ,with egg on our face,and let Canada Post control you without Cupw to fight for you. This shameful and disgusting . We have the mindset to just decerify and let another union who knows what they are doing come in and take over. This childlike manipulation was brought to you workers using all the cumulative intellect of Cupw.
Don’t drink the kool aid or eat the mint in urinal. Stay out of the cult.
Those who disagree with everything are you doing it because you enjoy being spiteful and builds up your low self and fragile ego ,or are you doing it to build up your fragile ego and low self-esteem? Both you say.
How is it reasonable to allow Canada Post to operate the voting website and count the votes themselves? Regardless of whether or not CUPW employees band together through this vote, CPC is certainly not above fudging the numbers and forcing us into their contract.
Not only should we vote no through this means, but we shouldn’t trust the verdict if it winds up being yes. What a horrible way to go about a vote that directly attacks collective bargaining.
It’s actually the CIRB who is administering the vote. So yes, totally reasonable and fair. Normally CUPW holds votes, only for offers the NEB has approved. How is that fair?
A cupw neb member must have wrote that, false vote information and only accept results if they win.
Only CUPW does that.
They don’t even release number results after elections. We don’t even know the actual number of people who voted in the strike mandate last year.
Plus, you had to sit around for 35 to 45 minutes to listen to CUPW executives brainwashing before you could submit your ballot.
It’s the CIRB who is managing the vote – not CP or CULTW. Try and keep up and/or pushing your CULTW narrative.
This way, neither party can fudge the numbers like the usual “95%” and we don’t have to sit and listen to a propaganda/brainwashing session for 30 minutes before we vote.
For all those who complain about technology and automation taking away jobs.Wake up it’s called progress.It’s the way a company remains competitive and consumers get expediency. That’s how you move from stone age to bronze age to iron age.It’s why you don’t stand in a bank to cash your paycheck. It’s why you don’t have paper routes.It’s why you can sit on your couch and tell the TV what channel you want.Jobs are lost in one area and created in another.
Until AI takes over everything
How do you justify cell phone tech dumbing society down to the point of stagnation ,lack of problem solving ,addiction ,and no critical thinking .
There will always be pros and cons for every new invention.Which outweighs which?
Whatever the outcome of the voting, what are the chances of winning a better deal in arbitration ? Union’s playing victim and constant criticism of government interfering and supporting Canada Post is expressed at any stage of negotiations. It shows discreditation, mistrust and lack of confidence in government procedures, setting approri a doubt in the positive result of the arbitration. As such, then don’t bother blaming government for a worse than final CPC offer in arbitration, which is highly likely to occur. And that will be solely up on CUPW and those voting NO members
You’re exactly right, and this has happened several time during the Harper years. CUPW doesn’t really care and the real reason rhey want arbitration is just so they won’t take the blame. If the final settlement is worse than this offer it will be the arbitrator or the government’s fault. If CUPW really had wanted arbitration, they could have taken it in October 2024 when Canada Post offered it. That would have prevented the strike and saved every member $5000+ dollars. But hey, that would have been smart, and that’s not the CUPW way.
Yes vote, signing bonus…I know it’s not a lot but something. No vote, goes to binding arbitration, lose the signing bonus but the arbitrator will basically use the final offer . I’ve seen this play out before, only Cupw said no to the signing bonus offers, went to binding and everything on the offer went through minus the signing bonus of course 🤨
NOPE
Yes! It’s exactly how it went down twice.
Love this forum. Censor all union opinions. CPC shills have free range. Read George Orwells 1984. Classic
How do you know opinions supporting CUPW are censored? Yours wasn’t. Did you ever think that there are many members who don’t agree with the unions totally unreasonable tactics? We all pay dues and we all have a right to vote. The results of this vote will tell you the real answer.
Logic like that hurts their ears and gets them triggered.
I have had many of my thoughtful posts still pending moderation .
CPC says an arbitrator would take to long. Lol. We will be at the end of the 4 year deal before we get there.
Cpc would have let the arbitrator settle this dispute if it was in CPCs favour. Obviously a NO vote.
I’m not gonna comment on the LC since I’ve never been one. Been a inside worker P04 since 2012 and for me I like what we have and wanna keep it. Now things may change in the future but I’m not gonna speculate and can only vote on what the offer has and how it affects my life. At this time my vote will be based on that info.
Divide and conquer. You have a good day then. Don’t worry about anybody else.
We are all connected, like it or not.
I agree, well said. Add my yes vote.
I’m an LC and I totally get your point. The truth that many LCs don’t want to hear is that Canada Post needs to change the way we deliver. We can’t have 25,000 LCs working an average of 4-6 hours a day getting paid 8 forever. CUPW can whine and cry, but change is coming.
How long will we have to maybe vote NO,maybe vote YES and maybe vote maybe. Oops,maybe not an option. Then how long will take to calculate the votes. And finally how long to confirm results? So many questions,so many people to screw things up.
This offer or another offer down the road binding arbitration will please some and anger others. No offer will please all so you got to look at your lives, family and financial situation and decide what works for you. Forget about Cpc,Cupw and all the comments. Calm,clear conscious and vote what will benefit you. Thank You
The exact kind of selfish thinking CPC is relying on. Shall we forget of all the fights that got you what you have?? Should we bow down and stop fighting for the future employees of this company?? This fight has never been about your singular life…it has everything to do with the lives of all!
Singular life. I pay for everything .Nobody of my fellow workers gives me money. So it’s everybody for themselves. Cpc mentality. Future workers. Lol
Of course not, you’ll get a worse deal in arbitration but not forget all the fights that got you what you have. And the union relies on you to say you won.
You vote how you want and I’ll vote how I want. It’s called a democracy, being able to make my own choice and not having you tell me what I should do or think.
agreed !
People who are mad at the union are not thinking this through. This is not a vote to “stick it to the union”. You can complain until you’re blue in the face about the union and you’d have just cause to do so. This vote is about BREAKING the union. If we accept this offer from CPC now, there is no need for the union. The union goes away and CPC is free to do whatever they want with the workforce, wages, benefits, pension, etc. Without any union to represent our interests, we will be back to making $20/hour, no guaranteed hours or routes, awful benefits and paying waaaaay more into the pension if they decide to keep it. Be as mad at the union as you like, but that is not what this is about. Please think into the future and not just about the now.
100% agree with you!
You’re totally off-base. This vote is not about breaking the union. We are voting on an offer from Canada Post. There are pros and cons to the offer. Every member has a right to vote and decide for themselves. Canada Post has always had the right to request a vote whem CUPW is unwilling to compromise. This is simply the first time the company has done so. Many dues-paying members feel CUPW has been incompetent amd unprofessional for many years. Thay are unreasonable and unwilling to chamge with the times. That doesn’t mean we as workers don’t want or need a union. There are many professional, competent unions in Canada that can negotiate contracts and live in 2025. It would be great if we as workers could replace CUPW with a better union. In the meantime we all have a right to vote on this offer.
Since when was it ever discussed that there was a single rollback? Are you just inventing things now? Where do you get the idea that this supersedes the union? After 18 months it makes more sense to vote than wait for a government appointed arbitration. In what world would that benefit you?
So you’re with CP negotiating team ‘cause you talk about the fact that no discussion were held about rollbacks. After 18 months of non negotiation by CP, you want a vote, because you don’t want the Union input that the arbitration process would consider. Nice of you Boss!
I hear from a lot of people they would back the NEB if they admit they messed up last year and with the extension. But let’s face it. The union is worse then taking responsibility then the employer. Here’s to the fall of the commie cult
You are absolutely right. In the USA, the states that have a Right to Work Legislation lost their Unions. Now the workers have no protection, lost their advantages, wages frozen, less workers so bigger workloads, reduced vacation. Now they want the Union back. The Conservative Party of Canada and CPC want the same legislation in Canada!
100%
This is untrue. Voting YES will usher in a new contract for the union members that protects their existing benefits and confers the same to the current temporary workers when they become permanent, and changes that hopefully save the corporation and our jobs. When the contract expires, members can still have a union representing them to negotiate a new contract with management, though whether it will still be CUPW or another more reasonable and realistic union will be up to the union members.
CUPW stopped being a Union decades ago. They are a left wing, commie, fascist activist organization.
You forgot to add that they are professional social justice warriors wasting our money inside and outside of Canada.
Well, maybe you are right, and I have to always take the Union’s side and completely depend on it. If so, will the Union pay my mortgage and bills in solidarity?
As long as we are paying dues there will be a union to collect them and represent the workers.So unless your planning to decertify CUPW there will still be a union .
Voting yes. Enough with this union
It make a lot of sense to be provided with the possibility of a fair, independent, impartial, free-will, direct and democratic vote!
That must mean CUPW is not in control of this vote Lol. It is a pleasure not to habe to sit through 45 minutes of union propoganda in a locked stuffy room before being allowed to vote. Of course when CUPW is in control there is always 95% support for whatever outcome they want:)
Just imagine if CUPW ran the company!
We’d have double the employees, 3/4 would be either doing nothing while on the job or on a fake STDP program!
Bankrupt in a month!😂😂
It would be wonderful… for our competitors!
Maybe, but we would definitely not have as many soups checking if your vest is zipped at $75,000/year
I hope my union dues increase so that I can continue paying for Cupw trips to Double Tree Hotel in Niagara,Chateau Hotel in Ottawa and Varedero Resort in Cuba. I feel good that i contribute to their vacation.
I think you might have discovered the real reason why CUPW wants negotiations to go on forever. It’s like a permanent vacation for the NEB.
Bingo, that’s exactly why they want to drag this on, they’ve already planned their vacations..
If Yes wins I get big raise. I can buy that loaf of bread I always wanted. If NO wins I get no raise and can buy that loaf of bread I always wanted that’s expired. How should I vote,?
Plus, CUPW wins anyways since they’ll be increase your union dues by another 3% or more after a new CA takes in effect.
Didn’t they just raise our dues back in January?
This “Vote No” campaign is only a struggle for them to remain relevant to postal workers.
Anyways, people should just vote for whatever they want.
I’m voting no
No one cares, go find another job if that’s what you’re doing.. We’re Voting YES and there’s a lot of unemployed people that would do anything for your job, don’t be so ungrateful. Without CPC you’d have nothing, no benefits and no pension either.. Go CUPW elsewhere with your nonsense.
I m voting NO
lol this message is brought to you by CPC
You mean people that would last only a few hours in the winter delivering then quit .Or on a heavy volume day any other day of the year .The public has no clue about how we work or what we do .
Of course they do. You walk across their lawns everyday. Even when you don’t have mail for their address you walk across to get to the house next door. Lately they have been parked on the street scrolling through their phones because they have nothing to deliver.
I finally got around to have my email address verified last night. It’s a simple and easy process (clicked the provided link to the webpage for confirming or changing email address, got an email right away at that email address where I clicked a link on the email to complete the verification). No drama and no verification code needed.
Despite all the recent FUD (fear, uncertainty and doubt) comments, I’ll be voting YES, as it’s the only sensible choice.
I fully agree. Judging by the comments here and the posts on the CUPW web-site. CUPW and their groupies hate technology and can’t figure out how to use it. If only Canada Post and all it’s workers could be magically transported back to the 1970s, everything would be great.
Should go back further to the 1930s. Then CPC management will have everything they want, like no labor rights!
What a farce this is. How much incompetence from CPC management will it take for the government to realize where the problem is?
They can’t even collect employee email addresses.
Feels like operator error most of the time. How is this a management issue
Everything workednfine for me and the whole process took less than one minute. Are you a member of the CUPW NEB? We know they’re strongly against technology.
The problem lies in the Government this is CIRB website that is defective .
I will take early retirement with benefits. Then I will live the good life on the tropical island of……..
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Voting NO so I can go to Niagara,Cuba and Ottawa with Cupw executives. Voting YES so I can go on a Caribbean cruise with Cpc executives. Which one would you pick,?
No
Vote maybe and get both!
Vegas odds have changed.
Toronto Blue Jays are now a plus 1000 to win the Stanley Cup before the Maple Leafs. Odds are still even that Cupw and Cpc will split the vote. My union dues are on the Jays to win the Cup.
Is it true that by voting NO, I as a p05 really p04 plus tarrif ,I will only being using 50% of my voting power?
Is there anything that anybody can agree on without disagreeing on it? Vote yes or no ,maybe is not an option.
Definitely maybe;)
I would disagree that Disco sucks. In my opinion Rap ,Hip Hop and Country suck more than Disco.
I got two choices in life. Spend time with my wife or read these comments. I’m voting to read these comments .
Whatever the outcome of the voting, what are the chances of winning a better deal in arbitration ? Since Union’s criticism of government interfering and supporting Canada Post is expressed at any stage of negotiations, then don’t bother blaming government for a worse than final CPC offer in arbitration, which is highly likely to occur. And that will be solely up on CUPW and those voting NO members!
If you vote yes you will lose your job shortly
If you vote no you will not have a job shortly
Tell me if you think this is the same both ways. And I’ll be your friend
Good analysis .But I have all the friends I can handle at the moment .
Beware this info post page it contains more Bosses than 2701 Riverside Drive in Ottawa! If they don’t like what you write they will not only censor you they will block your Internet Protocol address. I saw your proof Denis! There’s no Freedom of Expression in this company, only control speech and narrative by management.
Use a vpn
Management doesn’t have time for this chat nonsense. They are busy making plans to dig out of this mess. They don’t get a cent of overtime though and also put in more than the 37.5 hours they are paid a week. Lunch is not included by the way
Maybe they should Unionize!
If this chat is nonsense why is it still active? You’re one of the most prolific commentators on this chat nonsense maybe it’s you that doesn’t make sense? Or maybe it’s CP management style?
Management invented this post for nonsense comment
Seems like their plan is to abuse its workforce to extinction. Then hire management to manage without experience or direction. Rehire new workers for near minimum wage. Then scratch their heads when the temps quit after 2 weeks. Repeat. Did I miss any part of your plan?
This “mess” has been in the making for almost a decade. To clean it up all you need to do is trim the extra 700 plus supervisors, stop all corporate bonuses, get rid of all unnecessary vice presidents etc…
Here here good answer. Now will someone take that idea to the Government .I can’t promise they will act on it in a timely manner .
Haha, more CUPW BS, considering all of the national messages have almost zero facts and all conjecture meant to scare or bully, which local do you represent.
And this info post is full of clueless rants according to a certain boss that keeps on writing clueless comments.
Another clueless answer by Mr Yes. You don’t know what you’re talking about. The information is there.
You look like the type that will vote yes, then complain against the Union for the crap you voted for. Typical runner mentality. Maybe you should become an APOC member you have the lack of foresight they need.
There should be no extensions or overtime extended to part-timers who clearly have chose part-time over full-time. Therefore, those extra hours should go to a full-timer….
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100%
Completely agree!
The vote will be closer to yes if that happens.
Hence, I am voting yes to SSD and dynamic routing.
No more overtime for anyone until they have worked a full 8 hours.
No 4 hours work and get paid 8 hours.
Vote yes ,get this contract done and get our volumes back.If not then with our current volumes there will have to be cost cuts. Maybe once a week mail delivery, transfer what’s left of parcel business to purolater. Canada’s gdp is going down, not up. Unemployment going up, economy tanking, more tariffs coming, perfect time to be looking for a job.
Exactly, well said .Bravo, hopefully the brain dead understand what you’ve said here.. 🙄
Message to ALL CPC employees, management, APOC, PSAC, CUPW, etc….get your act together and do the job you are paid to do. Canadians have plenty of alternatives, wake up.
At least APOC is accountable and measured for their performance and quality already. They don’t just show up
Keep telling yourself that one
At least APOC is accountable and measured for their performance and quality already. They don’t just show up
Changing name now Boss
LOL, but man is the bar set real low if you guys have gotten bonuses the past five years.
Thanks for checking if I’m wearing my vest while going to the bathroom, because you know, I might get hit by a car in there
You sure they were just checking out your vest lol.
So many comments on here saying the offer is garbage, insulting, retiring so voting no, don’t let the company take all your power
CUPW takes all the power by keeping us in the dark until they are forced to shed some light
We pay them but do all the work while they sit back and try to scare us into a no vote
If CP doesn’t have the opportunity to advance, modernize, be in a position to be competitive, what do we ultimately think will happen
The dripple of volume we are seeing now will become worse, they will be forced to cut the work force anyway, only survivors will possibly be those with 10 years + if there is any business at all
Or they will be forced to privatize
CUPW is not out to save the Post Office by trying to keep it in the dark ages, they want their legacy to be how they brought the company down!
Your post makes a lot of sense. If the company can get back in shape financially that can only bemefit all of us. Even if CUPWs dream came true and Canada Post became a government department, we would still have to operate within a budget. I think the majority of workers are smart enough not to fall for CUPW nonsense. I’ll be happy to vote ‘yes’.
This message is brought to you by CPC
Or just an actual worker that is intelligent. We’ll soon find out if 50% +1 of workers are smart enough to vote ‘yes’.
Make CPC great again! Social hubs, senior check-ins, charging stations and contracting in cleaning staff are what we need to make it happen.
I got my email address verified last night. It’s a simple and easy process (clicked the provided link to the webpage for confirming or changing email address, got an email right away at that email address where I clicked a link on the email to complete the verification). No drama and no verification code needed. Despite all the recent FUD (fear, uncertainty and doubt) comments, I’ll be voting YES, as it’s the only sensible choice.
This is my first comment. This is my last comment.
This is my only comment.
Voting no.
Are you sure? Care to comment?
CUPW against automation, claiming attack our job security? Really?
Being against technical development and modernization, meant to ease mental and phisical labor and ensure the success and efficiency of company’s workforce? Since when improving, and implementing new technologies or technical solutions, systems, tools, and processes, leading to advancements within Post Canada is bad for its employees? On the contrary, by claiming it, CUPW puts itself in a position of attacking the job security through technological stagnation.
CUPW – wake up to reality! You are stuck in outdated mode – staying archaic it’s neither progressive nor inovative, but detrimental to workers!
So you can’t realize that automation takes jobs away?? This is not rocket surgery. CPC wants to halve the workforce. Why would any worker be ok with this??
Use
Your
Brain
Is rocket surgery the same as rocket science? Either way, it sounds smart.
Someone has to fix the rockets .Must be a new type of career with a new fancy title . They must make more. $$$$$$ than a rocket scientist .
Yes automation takes away jobs! And if they can get enough people to vote yes Canada Post will start letting people go. And if they can get 55,000 workers to buy into that, then watch out everybody else, union or non union jobs. Technology will be coming after your jobs.
Vote No!!!
With all due respect, use yours,it’s 2025 not 1985.We have no choice but to adapt to change its everywhere we go.
“With all due respect” means the exact opposite of what it says…so….thanks for that. Automation does not have to come at the expense of full time jobs. Many people commenting here to vote “yes” are obviously newer employees. They will be the first to go with continued automation and giving CPC carte blanche to change the way they do business. The “No” voters are fighting for them….see the irony??
Exactly it’s 2025 not pre union1925
Do you think most part timers don’t want full time?
It will all be handled through attrition. Only half the workforce is required. The taxpayers won’t tolerate bailing out parasites. Money is needed elsewhere. The “more jobs” thing is CUPW wanting more dues. All about the money.
They’re grasping at straws. Everything Canada Post does is ‘horrible ‘. CUPW can never adapt to reality and really chooses never to live in 2025.
I know 2-year olds that can spell better than you. The problem is the pace of technological change and whether or not the company should be able to lay everyone off because of the deployment of a new robot. They should not. Some attrition of employees as new technologies are implemented is expected.
Exactly. More than 5 years in you don’t have to worry about being let go. When the retired people go…which there are a ton of, they just won’t fill some positions. That actually has to happen to keep Canada Post alive and is sensible.
Some of those people should’ve retired long long time ago, because if they did they’d be replaced by actually workers, now we’re stuck with lazy high seniority people looking like an old age home at CPC now ..
They have been deleting Full Time inside worker positions for years and not filling them .Nothing new .They will continue this until the ratio is where they want it .
The offer from Canada Post guarantees NO layoffs and job protection for permanent PT and FT employees for the life of the contract. ONLY positions will POSSIBLY disappear and then permanent employees will be moved to where they are needed
CPC management running hundreds of millions of dollars in debt every year for seven consecutive years, and yet not only are they still employed, they get bonuses! Really! Time for them to face reality and get fired with cause!
Agree 100%.
But where was the government? Why weren’t they watching the spending? They didn’t care, because the CEO is doing the dirty work for the government. The only way they can get the public to buy into privatization, Is to purposely run the corporation into the ground. How? By overspending, by doing a lockout, which forced the workers to strike (to save their jobs from layoffs) at Christmas time (Canada Post’s busiest time of the year), turning down business from Amazon, buying trucks that are just sitting there, not being used, while paying insurance for them. Warning the public of another possible strike, so they can make less money and pass on the business to the competition, who the CEO of CP works for as well. And posting big discounts for small businesses with Canada Post’s competitor. And CP delaying mail on purpose (not the letter carriers) And why didnt the government step in earlier to end the strike? Privatization will make Canada Post (a for profit) company. Welcome to higher prices, less jobs avaliable, because technology will be taking your jobs and the rich, will be getting even richer. The government needs a huge workforce to accept this, so they can create a gig economy, not just for postal workers but for everyone. Vote against this. Vote No!!!
A clueless rant, cementing the fact that the uninformed will say anything that they hear. Put down the pipe and let the grownups run the company.
Tell us what exactly he wrote that is wrong, please. Everything he said is 100% correct. You can hate the union as much as you want, but what he wrote is the truth. Tell us your version.
The clueless rant is your Kodak rant!
Go read the answers to your Kodak rant… it cements the cluelessness of all your comments.
By doing a lockout to force a strike? That doesn’t make sense.CUPW are the ones who called the STRIKE…Sure CPC would have locked us out but CUPW beat them to it and CPC called their bluff and support from the Public wasnt there.I laugh now because all the ones gung ho in Nov are now walking with their tails between their legs and hoping the YES win…Even though they’d never admit it
On June 12 Minister Hajdu wrote….”33 days of strike and A LOCKOUT in the fall” which came first? Does it matter?
Bravo. Well said. Anything but a NO vote will destroy workers rights forever. The rich will get richer and the pleebs will eat dirt if cpc is allowed to strangle the unions rights.
You make alot of sense
How about this for progress?
Remove 25% of management and especially APOC in C&D and we will instantly have more “flexibility” and money.
If what they say is true and we are not working our full hours, what should be said of those who supervise?
CUPW executives/ president only wants to return to the bargaining table so they can continue dining on our dues.
Too bad. I still want my vote.
Instead of crying about having to be forced to vote, she should go on a hunger strike and forego collecting anymore union dues from members.
If she does that I will vote no.
Here’s a crazy thought. Maybe if everybody including me spent as much time working as they do putting these childlike comments together,we’d all be better off? Hum. Crazy thought.
If you are reading this how do you know if im mgmt ,union,cleaner,janitor or Ai? Maybe I’m a virus who will corrupt the whole voting process. Ha ha
Duh, Pin #’s Duh
Does Cuba have internet cause ill be there on vacation soon as vote takes place so I can vote YES or NO?
You are voting for the last Canada Post offer. Either YES you accept or NO you reject. You are not voting for anything else
That’s correct.
Can I split my vote in half because the left side of my brain is saying vote NO and the right side of my brain is saying vote YES.
DHL and union agreed to contract.
Railworkers agree to contract
NHL and union extended contract by 4 yrs
City workers agreed to contract
Cupw and Cpc agreed to embarrassing themselves and still no contract. They are special and smart and when I growup I hope I can be that special and smart.
DHL, NHL, rail workers, and dock workers don’t have daddy carney to bail them out. That’s why their management actually negotiated in good faith.
People who are indecisive really should be certain that they are 100% unsure of whether voting YES or NO will make them feel more decisive.
Decisively no vote here.
I’m willing to take a payout and fewer benefits because I want to help Canada Post get outta debt.
Tell that to the lazy workers who happen to be on work accommodations doing as little work as possible like RTS, DRS and the call mail window.
This CPC offer sure doesn’t help them. They should just retire already.
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I will vote NO if the CUPW NEB and President steps down from their positions.
I’ll vote yes if CPC executives are all fired with cause.
Ill vote Yes for you to go find another job with NO pension or benefits just so someone unemployed can replace you and be grateful they have a job..
That’s a good one how do we add that to the offer .
Please send me my ballot with tracking to vote.
I don’t trust the system.
I guess you don’t vote then. You can always use a phone or do you not trust anyone? No loss
He’s asking for a mailed ballot…boss why not? IT’S OUR JOB DELIVERING MAIL!
I don’t trust anyone.
You are wise not to trust unaudited software and process. Both sides should be allowed auditors for the code, as well as monitoring the vote.
Seriously Canada Post, get rid of the comments sections…they truly show the mentality of some of the membership.
But hey, it’s good for a laugh I guess 😂
Nothing on TV but reruns! Might as well read these! Lol
Thanks Canada Post for providing us with a place to vent since CUPW executives refuse to listen from their members.
I am still voting NO since the offer is an insult to our intelligence.
Justice for Janitors. Remember that’s where this started. Almost had a contact 7 months ago. But Jan and the kool aid kids had to push.
Even worse was finding out about the Justice for Janitors from a CPC negotiations update. What else is CUPW hiding from members on their social justice crusade?
Hear hear!
But then what will the soups do all shift long to earn their bonuses and trips to Hawaii??!?
Obviously not all your mothers told you…
If you have nothing good to say…say nothing at all. What I’ve read leaves a very bad taste in my mouth. Don’t care who wins.
Use mouth wash. Rinse. Then repeat. CPC management has many more loads for you to swallow.
Now the union is complaining about automation. This sums up the whole problem with this system. The competition is automated and will always be ahead of us for it. The union wants to go back to sorting everything manually, but that’s like pretending you are Kodak and that the digital camera doesn’t exist. Get out of the way CUPW or get on board. You talk about the company being incapable of bargaining and the you offer up these arguments.
You hit the nail on the head with your comment, 😂
Technology will not solve our primary problem, which is incompetent management. They over spend on junk technology, implement it poorly, then blame the failures on workers. Change management first. Then worry about new technology.
A Kodak employee developed the first handheld digital camera in 1975 using a monochrome CCD. Management did not believed it could be successful. We all know what happened. CPC would probably invest in artificial unintelligent robots, it would be business as usual, instead of investing in their employees.
A Kodak employee developed the first handheld digital camera in 1975 using a monochrome CCD. In 2005, the CEO shut down factories, outsourced manufacturing divisions. He divest its digital camera manufacturing operations in August 2006, then went bankrupt in 2009.
CPC will invest in artificial unintelligent managers, instead of investing in their employees. Business as usual, right boss?
We need to go back to the old days where LCs had two hours to sort their mail. We need to go back to the days when an LC would deliver only lettermail and we would send an MSC to the same addresses to deliver a parcel. We need MSCs doing all SLB, RPO and CPUs. We need more foot routes. We need to deliver only Monday-Friday, and if we deliver weekends it needs to be done on double time. The union needs to go on television and say “to h ell with the public” like they did in the 80’s. We need to get back to the good ole days, if we stay united we will get there.
You mean when they got maternity leave and today every Canadian can enjoy Parental leave…
If Cupw loses they can appeal it in court. First Provincial if that fails Supreme Court. Process will take 5 yrs. If Cpc loses they appeal to Federal Government. Process will take 1 week.
So to expedite the process, vote no!
I WILL VOTE “YES” at least we would have contact in hand. CUPW please stop sending continuous emails to confuse the members. Let them think as their own for now. if nothing had happen in 18 months with your negotiations. Nothing will happen if we only rely on you non guaranteed/ unassured more months or years.
Right on.
Yeah, and if you believe CPC management had nothing to do with the delays, I have a bridge to sell to you! 😅
I agree after 18 months nothing done, time to move on I’m voting Yes!
GOOD LUCK TO ALL WHO VOTE YES
MISERABLE YOU WILL BE
PROBABLY QUIT WITHIN A FEW MONTHS
ALL POWER TO SUPERVISORS YAAAAAAAAAAA
I’ll take your comment as seriously as I can. Your use of ALLCAPS and no punctuation tells me everything I need to know. Are you a member of the CUPW NEB?
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Many will be laid off, with a yes vote.
Vote No!
Good get rid of the lazy ones first.
More will be laid off with a No vote, DUH
All will be laid off with a No vote
Permanently or temporary with recall rights .
Right on. I’m voting no.
To all who vote no, make sure you get my drive through order right.
Those voting yes will be the ones filling orders for CPC management at the drive through.
CPC management has our employee numbers and DOB. There is nothing in this process that prevents them from manipulating this vote. It is completely insecure and open to fraud.
If it doesn’t go CUPWs way, I’m sure it will be the fault of Canada Post or the government, right? Or maybe the workers who finally have a say and a vote.
DHL was forced to negotiate. They tried weaseling a 108 deal like CPC but the government said no. They were all set to use scabs like CPC has in the past but the new anti scab law came into effect. They threatened to leave Canada. In the end they had to negotiate a deal and I guarantee you they are still gonna make more money than needed. Pig mentality. EVERYTHING IS MINE.
they will need access to your email for the pin without it nothing can be done.
Demand a mail in ballot with tracking.
Just wow… hope your being sarcastic.
Maybe they’re aliens, you go hide under the bed and when it’s safe we’ll let you know.
Voting with CUPW is the most fraudulent voting system that there is. The government isn’t much better, but I would trust them more then the stooges running CUPW.
That shows some real conspiracy thinking there
They also need pin #’s, all email, in line with employee #’s
WOW!!!
Uh huh! Take another sip!
CPC isn’t doing anything more than CUPW regarding the vote. It’s managed by CIRB, so you can take off the tinfoil hat and go back to stocking your apocalypse bunker with garbanzo beans and canned peaches
What about a tinfoil touque we are Canadian ya know eh .
We need auditors from both sides for the voting software, and observers for the voting process.
I agree because when CUPW loses theyll say it was fixed! Because we all know how honest they are with their 1960s way of voting on a handwritten ballot hidden behind a curtain!
To quote an Anonymous Boss; “…CMB Conversion, three day a week delivery. Those words should remedy all of your problems.”
Then the wise man answered; “What you’re describing is part time work! 20 hours week and must be available for 30 hours… Sounds familiar.”
That’s our future!
You can blame those CUPW members that run their routes and are done in 6 hours or less for the changes. Maybe if people followed line of route they would make the routes better. During PT my route got over assessed and eventually they took a portion of to make it 8 hours Einstein.. Also it looks like an old age home at the plants with people over 50+ years seniority. Shake your head, CUPW screwed the carriers, but also carriers screwed the carriers running their routes, your scanner leaves a time stamp.. Duh
This is what the wise man wrote:
Group two with your straight all the time have created this mess. Volume has been going down since the 1980 and you just ran faster; early start, no breaks, using your personal vehicle as a relay box, never take your diner break, must finish before noon and eat at home. Got to finish before the 3:00 pm traffic rush hour and get home to cook supper.
Now many of you will continue your straight, under the new regime, you will just hide until the end of your shift! The new regime states; “The Corporation may: reallocate and assign any collection and delivery activities, at straight time, to Group 2 employees who have unused scheduled hours. ”, which means you will be fired for fraud!
And if you return to the station after your straight, management will just assign more work to you, on the next day. If you slow down, finally take your breaks, you will be admitting you were wrong with your past work ethics.
The frog in the water doesn’t realize the water is getting hotter, until it boils over and it’s to late… You know you burned your jobs with your straights, and now payment is due, reduced work force!
The frog is back Love that frog
The wise man wrote:
Group 2 and management are both responsible for the lost of parcels.
Group 2 by knocking on bricks, carting personal contact, stuffing a parcel in a CMB, not respecting “do not safe drop” directives, cutting corners and rushing to finish early.
Management by turning a blind eye, accepting and encouraging the work ethic of group 2 and thinking that by being the cheapest carrier, everyone would stick with us.
Now we face the reality…Parcel delivery was the only area of possible revenue growth…. management and delivery workers did not care.
i would be voting yes. tired of these cupw members enjoying life to the fullest off the employees back.
Well only cupw members can vote. So you want to stop enjoying life? Definitely a soup. Well done
Busted! 😃
Cut soup some slack. They’re just trying to earn their bonuses and trips to Hawaii. They’re so abundant and have nothing else to do all shift long!
I need to give my head a shake. I need to cut back on my breaks and start working. I need to be more respectful of those around me. Who am I?
Shop stewards!
The comment above definitely doesn’t sound like a shop steward 🙂
You’re right on the money with that one, lol.
CPC management
Union negotiator
CPC management.
Yuuuup..I ask people if they want fries with that? I also am a Canada Post driver. A mother grandmother ,wife,taxpayer ,human. I like you wear many hats,play many roles and try like you to find some sanity in an insane society. My point ENJOY LIFE !
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I need an objective honest answer to the following
If I vote YES what will happen
If I vote NO what will happen
Just answer without the hostility anger and bias. I’ll tune in after Canada Day for any response
YES, we can all get on with our lives. There will be changes, there will be layoffs, but CP will get back some work volume and life will go on. Depending on what criteria CP uses for trimming the workforce new people have a fighting chance. (retirement packages, early retirement incentives, etc) People who don’t like the new CP, just leave.
NO, this drags on for more weeks, months, further decline in customers, and less of a chance CP ever recovers fully. Ultimately layoffs happen anyway cause there is very little to do. By some miracle arbitration actually gets a better deal (not likely), but the only ones who benefit are those with 10+ years seniority. Anyone else won’t be around anymore.
If Yes wins I will worker slower
If NO wins I will not work as fast
Or not at all
Only if your in management
Management will be fine, that’s what you call a transferable skill. Not like a one trick pony
Unless they read your Kodak rant, boss, you’ll be in the unemployment line for long!
Now that workers want to slowdown and work correctly and get the confidence of the public back, you call them pony.
If YES wins I have a job
If NO wins I will be unjobbed
Unjobbed and then soon unhoused:)
I will use NEB email address to vote YES.
CUPW WILL NOT USE FEAR TACTICS AND BAD MOUTHING TO INTIMIDATE MEMBERS TO VOTE NO! INSTEAD WE WILL USE BULLYING MEANNESS AND STRONG ARMING TO INTIMIDATE MEMBERS TO VOTE NO!
Ah….the union has been forced into this vote Cappy. This offer is so bad it should not even be presented to the members. If you want to go backwards, have at it. I miss the years when people had grit. Now we are surrounded by a bunch of soft baby birds.
Vote NO
Actually no one is being ‘forced’ to do anything. If you don’t want to vote, because it’s all so wrong, then don’t. Maybe to show your ‘grit’ you can do a one-person illegal strike and just walk-out. I’m sure co-workers who are not ‘soft baby birds’ will join you:)
Going backwards?
Rejecting advancement, progression, modernization, that’s becoming competitive?
Wow, someone is drinking the Kool aid
So watch all other competitors modernize, take business from Canada Post because they are not stuck in the 80’s, that’s the way to Operate? Makes so much sense….maybe we will see you at a drive thru window some day soon!
Hear hear!
Look man/woman/whatever,
Voting yes will screw all postal workers, not just the lazy ones.
I admit CUPW sucks, but it’s not worth career suicide by siding with the CPC.
Voting a resounding no might help tell our CPC overlords we will no be pushed around.
This comment section is already sending a message to CUPW of how much they suck since they are already complaining about CPC meddling by putting up this place up.
Keep commenting since they don’t like hearing the truth from members.
Sure
And when 55,000 plus are unemployed, then what
CP needs to progress in order to be able to become competitive
Current state is they are not
How can we not see that…..
Exactly!
All setup and ready to vote no.
voting yes
You mean yes.
And unemployment I hope!
Me too. Voting no.
Hard NO! Mostly for the grievances that are still in the pipeline. Need to have those addressed first.
Good luck with that. Maybe the magic arbitrator will make all your wishes com true.
Hard yes for
me
I will not ever tell someone how to vote. Up until today we did not enough information to even understand the offer.
I will vote no personally as I feel like it was in bad bargaining practices to even go cry to the government make it that our elected representatives are not agreeing with us so for the members to vote.
I am not blindly supporting the no vote, i just don’t agree with the offer being good enough to me. That being said, I also don’t agree with certain things the union is fighting for. I am not a genius, but venI can see where we need to change practices to even have a job in the future. I still have over 15 years to go.
Then you should vote yes if you want to keep working.
The cupw trolls are back saying theyre gonna vote no. I guess they think something better is waiting in the wings. Love the new scare posts on the cupw website. As if the union can stop new technology. If they could, there still be millions and millions of letter mail, no internet, and for sure no email. And clerks would still be hand sorting all mail and oversize to every route. Maybe even sorting back on the train! But wait! Machines do that now! Oh no! Cupw…. you couldnt stop that? But… somehow… someway youll stop the robots?? Give it up! Its the new reality. Stop with the scare tactics. Voting no will not stop the advancement of new technology.
All the competition is advancing but CPC will survive by not advancing. Thats what CUPW wants us to believe. LOL
Best Comment! Ive been telling people when they complain oh theres so much mail? Really I have 35 yrs in leaving soon and im like really? We have about a tenth of what we did in 1990
✋👏 truth right there!
Still waiting for my pin. Please send us mail in ballot if we request it.
Can’t stand CUPW NEB, but still have to vote NO to show CPC that they can’t push us around.
If anybody has to change it’s both the CPC management and the CUPW NEB/ president. Stop being so greedy.
Not working kicks me back to the first screen where you enter employee number and birth
You probably entered your birth date or employee ID incorrectly. I just did it and everything took 30 seconds.
Remember the contract extension when we thought CPC would be grateful for an easy 2 year contract? Now look at how we are valued by them. They are looking to strip our rights and reduce us to nothing. Get your NO vote in or suffer. I am retiring in a few months. I will definitely be voting NO regardless. Stick together and you will be strong. VOTE at all costs.
Imagine thinking that not threatening a strike for every single contract is some sort of all you can eat buffet pass for the next one.
Imagine management that lead by example, that negotiates, that made sure employees work according to the sign collective agreement, that doesn’t encourage runners and that includes you Boss
I agree with you 100%
VOTE NO!!!!
voting yes
Retirement in two months, you really don’t even have a say here if you ask me.
Happy Retirement Brother ✋✋
Ohhh, well, if we all vote no, we will be going you with no work as well, that’s some great advice there
The volume speaks volumes
If it is a No vote, what business is still around will not longer be around, what dripple is left will not be enough to employ the current #’s
Such wise advice
Let’s keep working like we are in the 80’s, no advancement, sure we can remain competitive
Solidarity!!!!
Sounds good. Voting no.
I’m already planning what to do with my raise after YES wins the vote. Down-payment on my trip to Cuba.And then spend all of next year paying off the rest.
Don’t forget Fairmont Chateau Laurier presidential suite in Ottawa and DoubleTree Fallsview Resort & Spa honeymoon suite in Niagara Falls.
If not, you can always stay at the Great Wolf Lodge. Enjoy sliding down the waterslides with Slurpee in hand.
Thanks can’t wait to vote no to this garbage.
Ditto!
voting yes
No all the way!
Stil doesn’t work for me. Tried several times and contacted support. I am not getting a verification code. I checked the spam folder as well. Nothing.
I am voting NO, maybe that’s why I’m not getting a verification code.. 😂
you can always request code on personal email address.
This is too much for you I guess. Good thing that you don’t need much to figure out your job
It’s so easy amd the whole process takes about 30 seconds. Ask your kids to help you. We know computers are hard for some people. Are you a member of the CUPW NEB?
More will be laid off with a No vote, DUH
I filled in employee number. Bornday and email address. I even got pin number and put in verification box and wait for it…..invalid try again. So I tried many times over and same result. Are you and me really surprised? No
I verified mine and it worked the first time. So I call bs to all the ney sayers. It’s working.
I tried the link here six times and got errors. Then went to the Cirb website and used their link. It worked the first try. Should be to the same site. Or maybe I just got lucky on the 7th or 8th try. lol this is going to be fun.🤩
Give us what we want or suffer a horrible defeat when we vote. You have been warned.
More CUPW drama.
What defeat? Unemployment?
Who are you threatening? Canada Post or yourself:) . Either way you seem angry and scary Lol.
I finally got a pin number. Oh boy.
I tried to put it where it said verification code box and kept saying invalid try again. I’ll bet my union dues for the rest of 2025 that there is sabotage here from Cpc and or Cupw .
Get one of your grandkids to help you.
You aren’t voting yet, why would it work today? You use it later
Worked for me first time…cry babies will cry..workers will work
You can do both you know
Only if they’re not a simpleton…
Funny to see all the people who aren’t actual cupw employees that have been posting here. Anyone saying that it works didn’t actually do it. They are either management or not employees at all.
This doesn’t work.
It actually took around 4 minutes for my code to come through – probably a lot trying at same time
I did it at work and it worked on the first try. No problems. Others have tried and they had issues but that was because they were using “Chrome”. If you use Microsoft Edge it works well.
mine worked
😎
Worked for me, voting time soon I hope.
Time to move on from CUPW and its lazy supporters.
lol cupw isn’t going anywhere
Whatever do you mean? They go to Cuba all the time.
Not as nice as management trips to Hawaii.
Time to get rid of CUPW
Get rid of CPC executives and half of management first.
Hello
Mine worked ready to vote yes
Page is broken. None of this worked. What a joke. This company is so greasy.
Maybe this isn’t the place for you, there’s a great big world out there no sense in staying in a place where you’re not happy.
Too funny. Process already doesn’t work. I can hardly wait for dynamic routing and/or load leveling. I am just going to assume that the government and CP have already determined what the result is going to be…..lol.
Relax comrades there’s more info coming.
Too bad, seniors cant access some of their emails. VOTE YES future of canada post.
Well after all the comments all the aggrevation,all the bull,all the insecurities ,fear mongering and now can’t even get pin number after trying a dozen times,I’ve reached the boiling point. Good luck to those who got a pin make your vote count. I’m outta here
Paste the link directly onto a different browser. It works.
It’s not working 😂. Well heck. Let’s try again. Guessing my vote wouldn’t count anyways. Central Canada 😂
Unbelievable people, we have been wanting and waiting for this….easy breezy, took a whole 30 seconds.
Stop your crazy comments and actually get this done . Ok? Ok!
Great! It went through flawlessly.
I’m going back to watch the Real Housewives of Canada Post starring Cupw. Call me when the voting process works.
Unexpected error has occurred trying to get pin number. Wouldn’t be better to just go a certain area and vote like we do for elections.?
Nice to see the voting process works. I put on employee number ,bornday ,email address and error occurred plsvtry again. Those reading this comment can’t be surprised.
Vote registration took 2 minutes on my phone.
Here’s a shock. I followed the instructions to get a pin number and kept saying error pls try again. So I did 5 more times. And guess what..pls try again. So I have til July 7 to get a pin number and vote…MAYBE
You have until July 7 to verify your email address not to get a PIN…this is the step before to make sure the emails are accurate
My email is updated , READY TO VOTE YES!
Thumbs up
me too 😁
Yes here!!
Everyone has to vote. You should now know what is your choice. Economically very critical situation.
Both side should say if the vote not convince them, what is next action and which does not effect workers daily life. Vote Vote!!
There is an issue. Once you give your email. You get a Verification Code at your email address. The only problem is there is no where to enter the code. The page I was on reset back to asking me for my email address. I went through the process twice and same result…
Same for me, not working.
well if you actually READ THE INSTRUCTIONS the PIN is for…
WHEN YOU VOTE!
I guess you dont know how to yourself , he is talking about the Verification code to confirm your email adress. not talking about the PIN for when you vote. You will get the PIN later to vote in your confirmed email.
Exactly.
No, if you actually read the instructions the pin is to verify your email and it works. Have patience. It may take a few minutes for you to get the pin. There’s alot of people in the system at once so it may be slow. All you ney payers take it easy, it works. People just want an opportunity to cry about something or blame cpc for something. It works!!! And yes I am an employee, not management.
😂
Yep. Canada post has spent weeks making youtube videos and webpage propaganda and is sabotaging the voting system. Incredible how low this company will sink.
Paranoid much? Oh no, everything is a giant conspiracy.
lol, I hope you bubble wrap yourself before you go outside
This is bizarre. CIRB is supposed to administer the vote not Canada Post. I won’t be doing this without information directly from CIRB.
lol, then I guess you are shit out of luck since this is obviously too complicated for you.
Was much better when CUPW could fudge votes eh?
VOTE YES
How do you think CIRB will get your email address if Canada Post doesn’t provide them the list of employee email addresses?
Get over it Nigel. If you can’t figure it out, you’re making yourself seem less valuable.
CIRB got the email addresses from CPC. These names were then verified by the CUPW. That was in one of their bulletins. Nothing to worry about.
I vote NO to giving my email to Canada Post or CIRB or CUPW.
Find another way!!!
Don’t bother voting if the whole process offends you!
This is going to be a circus
😀
God forbid someone sends you an email. lol
so lets see you will not give your email but will give your bank account number…..
Wouldn’t recommend giving your email to CULTW though.
I feel the same way. Why would I want to give my email to CP? I don’t want them harassing me with their propaganda !!!
Awe boohoo, don’t whine when you don’t get to vote. Some of you people need give your heads a shake. WOW.
You are giving your email to CIRB through a Canada Post portal. It’s fine
CUPW harasses it members with their propaganda, what is your point?
you don’t think they already have your email address, SIN, date of birth, address and the size of pants you wear?? you are not the brightest crayon in the box, are you??
are you on the NEB, too??
Voting is democratic.
And how to they get the PiN #’s NEB, eh?