CUPW-represented employees to have the opportunity to vote on Canada Post’s final offers after 18 months of negotiations
June 12, 2025, 01:40 pm
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Canada Post has received notice that the Minister of Jobs and Families has approved its request for a vote to take place on the company’s final offers to the Canadian Union of Postal Workers (CUPW), using her authority under section 108.1 of the Canada Labour Code.
The vote will be administered by the Canada Industrial Relations Board (CIRB) as soon as possible and will give employees in the Urban and RSMC (Rural and Suburban Mail Carriers) bargaining units the opportunity to have their say on Canada Post’s final offers. The company stands ready to work with the CIRB to prepare for the vote and will share details as soon as they are available.
Canada Post welcomes the Minister’s decision as it will provide employees with the opportunity to have a voice and to vote on a new collective agreement at a critical point in its history. A negotiated agreement between the parties has always been the preferred path to an employee ratification vote. However, the parties remain at a major impasse after 18 months of negotiations, a national strike and an Industrial Inquiry Commission that detailed the challenges facing the company, and what needs to be done to begin addressing them.
Canada Post’s final offers
On May 28, 2025, Canada Post presented final offers to CUPW for employees in the Urban and RSMC bargaining units. The vote will take place on these offers.
Details about the company’s final offers are available at canadapost.ca/offers.
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I read the union’s ’10 reasons to vote no’. Nothing on the list struck a cord. It all boils down to being either a realist or a fantasist. Needed changes are coming and we’ll adjust as we always do. 20+ years as a carrier…absolutely voting YES.
I think we should all wait and see what the whole contract looks like rather than just a summary before voting – period.
Voting yes to spite the Union is like cutting off your nose to spite your face. Ok, we get it, you’re in control. But who wins?
So I say, give cupw the money to run the company and see if they can. CUPW has never wanted CPC to survive, and this may be the turning point where the company just packs it in and shuts down. CUPW takes in over 60 million dollars a year in dues. This is what it is all about. When the union tries to run the company, then it’s game over. Employee’s should be glad that they are making $55,000 a year without overtime on top of this. You know that a letter carrier can do his/her route take a piece of overtime and still be done there day within 8 hours. Also, the average sick days used by CUPW members is around 20 per year!!!!
Lol no
So many management trolls and/or corporate bootlickers in here, trying to get a yes vote.
The real members will be voting NO.
It’s be funny it if we’re just so sad
CUPW messed up by not defying the back to work legislation in Decembers strike. Therefore my respect for my union went out the window for this union that Ive been apart of just over 10 years. Our union only cares about that $100 per month that we give them. They know with the new contract, will cut the workforce in half and they know there wont be 55,000 of us in 10 years, maybe even 20 when I retire.
Finally. The Government has taken back Canada Post. No longer run by Letter Carriers.
In what universe is there any justification for such an asinine statement?
This is an excellent comment. Canada Post does not exist to provide employment to CUPW members. To the general public the carriers looks like entitled spoilt brats and they aren’t wrong. Anyone paying attention and with a modicum of common sense will see that the issue isn’t CPC, it’s the union. Read the Kaplan report, I certainly did. Anybody who votes no to this offer is part of the reason the corporation is in serious trouble and why the general public despises letter carriers.
You are spewing lies in typical soup fashion. Stop with the carrier envy. Get off your lazy behind and actually do something that generates a revenue stream like carriers do and not just a wage drain like you looking for unzipped vests and initials on admail chits
Big fat NOPE!
Sure is a lot of management on here claiming to be CUPW, its a NO and you know it, start dealing with us now, new antisocial law coming soon and you won’t be able to have purolator do the work anymore
CUPW does not own me!!! It has NO RIGHT to control and influence my voice and my choice as it belongs only and fully to me ! I have the freedom of expression and MY right to exercise my will to the best of my interests, CUPW does not impose the way I vote. In present circumstances, I will Vote YES, and it matters to me!
We all matter and we will all stand up to their corruption and vote against them as well, Majority is voting Yes, we are united and against those that impose threats to all the membership
Voting NO, Canada Post doesn’t want Arbitration because they r scared of it.
A yes vote is Giving into a falsely manufactured fear. Don’t be manipulated
If as you say it truly matters to you, put your pride aside and wake up to our mutual destruction buried in those 700 pages. Voting yes just to spite the union will not help you or all of us in the long run. Hopefully we can watch cpc squirm if their useless final offer gets rejected
Vote on a 700 page offer we can’t even read fully?!?! Hard No on so many levels
Vote on a union that doesn’t show us anything because no transparency and lies, Hard Yes…!! You can go elsewhere for a job .
how many previous contracts including our current one lousy extended one btw did you read in full?
btw did you vote on the extension?????
Voting NO
No one cares 🤡 we’re voting yes and we’ve signed petitions to remove CUPW
What petitions where? Stop spewing lies
No one cares 🤡 we’re voting no and we’ve signed petitions to fight illegally trampling on our rights
Communist scare tactics, CUPW’s best move. Why are they so frightened by the democratic process ? I guess they believe we are all too stupid to see the danger that only they understand and therefore we can not be trusted to exercise our right to vote. It is so clearly obvious that is the case or they would have presented the final offer to their membership when they had the chance. Let’s face it brothers and sisters, we are nothing but a bunch of clueless morons. Thanks CUPW for trying to save us from ourselves. Now we are all doomed, we might usher in the end of the world by using our tiny brains and voting against your superior intellect but here goes nothing………….
So many obvious management shills in the comments.
So obvious you’re a brainwashed CUPW goon pushing fake narratives.. you think the union cares about you, nope.. When you can prove the union is transparent, maybe people will think differently, and you support a union that supports communism and radical groups.. We’re all voting YES and you have no grounds to support those that have divided us.. You’re probably one of those employees always in trouble, begging CUPW to save you, or a useless PO4 that’s never delivered mail.. you’re probably milking STDP because you don’t want to work, we want to work and support our jobs and Canadians.. Go pay the charities the millions that were lost during Christmas and those children that never received letters from Santa..
Definitive proof of what management thinks of employees.
If you’re a carrier and you vote yes, you need your head examined. You’re agreeing to a much tougher job for less money.
If you’re voting NO your Dooming the carriers and you couldn’t do the job if you tried, useless PO4.. You should be forced to deliver mail instead of sitting on a chair putting on lipstick and doing your nails for the same money..🤡😂 Watching you work is worse than watching grass grow, so unless you understand the job keep the comments to yourself.. The offer I hope removes the PO4’S being lazy and unproductive.
Ignoring all the misogynistic comments, I found most troubling, “The offer I hope removes the PO4’S being lazy and unproductive.” Are you advocating people vote one way or another without having read the offer in its entirety?
No you LCs are mad because now youre joining the rest of us…Get paid your 8 hours for working 8 hours…Gravy train, cheating on OT, cheating on your route are now over! Love it!
Just like people who work in the plant you work for 8 hours you get paid for 8 hours.
Yep! We cant go home after 5 hours and get paid 8.
We get moved to another section
So instead of using the conveyor belts you just manually carry the parcels to each station to make seem as if actually working?
govt and PC haven’t divided our membership, poor leadership and negotiating other part of the union has done that. We pay these people to do 1 job, 1JOB, and they fail in a dramatic fashion time after time. 18 month negotiation my ass, they’re working on 5 yrs.
The world changes, cupw stays the same. NDP gone, no friends on parliament and they cry when the govt isn’t on their side and try and take their ball home and leave the game. All of a sudden they want their old enemy, the arbitrator back when in Oct they hated him.
Vote what you want, make an informed decision, cpc paid for my house, cupw takes my dues and protects all the Karens and whiners.
17 year mailman is how cpc paid for your house. Try buying anything with less than 10 years. This job is not the same anymore. Consider yourself lucky because good bye decent paying union job at Canada post
actually cupw divided our membership. you were better off well LCs were better off with lcuc. i bet you and many forget or dont know they existed. cupw aborbed them and erased every trace of them.
Well said Ken.
FYI in 60 years CUPW has only signed 2 contracts since 1965, and you think they’re working for us.. 😂 Big YES vote for me and No to CUPW
Yes to cpc offer does not mean no to cupw. Please open your eyes to that fact. Yes to cpc means we’re all done for. And for all the big talkers out here I doubt anyone will even attempt to overthrow this union afterwards because we’ll all be to busy being overworked and underpaid or eliminated all together so cupw wouldn’t matter anymore anyway
I voted in the last Federal election. I voted in the last Provincial election.I had no problem with anybody haressing me or scaring me or anything. Yet Cupw is doing all those things to its members who pay dues and are suppose be on our side. Hey Cupw its gonna backfire and you’ll be pushing members who would have voted NO to vote a rezounding YES!
Yes So true, they’re walking around facilities threatening people if they don’t vote NO.. Reported them to labour board, can’t wait to see the fines they give the individuals bullying in the workplace, hope they get fired.. It’s a BIG YES HERE..
I would never vote “yes” on an imposed vote. Right there, it goes to show you that CPC has an agenda. People blaming the Union need to remember that everything we have, including the wage, is because we have a Union that’s been fighting for us. If it was for CPC, you’d be working for a minimum wage, with little or no benefits.
And that’s where you’ll eventually be with a “yes” vote.
My vote is a HELL NO.
Until I see cuts at the management level and bonuses stopped for mismanagement, my vote will always be NO.
Stop coming after the little guy, CPC and trim the fat at the top.
When are we going to trim of the CUPW executives for not having any money..? All you do is preach CUPW and they’re not responsible for all you’ve said, what they are responsible is.. 5 weeks lost pay, shutting down Christmas for Canadians, loses in the millions for charities, pissing off the public, misrepresentation, no transparency, trying to force arbitration when we are legally entitled to vote, corruption, money Laundering, supporting communism, supporting terrorism, going on trips during negotiations when they should not be, partying in Niagara falls, pulling fake 72 hr notice to strike to make membership think they’re serious. Without CPC you wouldn’t have a job, a pension and you’d be unemployed. CUPW forcing arbitration is like forcing privatization. You or CUPW cannot keep us quiet, labour laws can be used against all of you that threaten anyone to force a NO vote.. You’re the problem with the membership with your false information, so us all a favor when CUPW is DE-CERTIFIED you can leave with them also. We demand transparency and we have that right.. Voting YES with the Majority, your the weak minority that will be out of a job..
Why don’t you worry about doing whatever you have to or want to do to the union until AFTER we get our blasted contract demands. You’re pipe dreaming if you think a yes and you’ll still have a job and no more union.
Very well articulated. When workers tried to unionize, Amazon shut down. What do you think working conditions would be for CPC if they got their way and turned into a gigified Amazon? CUPW members should not be bickering amongst themselves nor workers and the public. Is this actually what we want? We should be fighting the government for this trampling of rights.
This!!^^^^^
I have 10+ years of service as a LC, and my vote will be YES!
A No vote is for privatization that CUPW has put us into this situation, Failures on all levels.. Making threats to people if they vote Yes, we have labour laws and you will be reported.. It’s our choice, after 18months you losers can’t do anything right except bankrupt the membership. Your threat of 72 is as much of a joke as your education levels, there was never going to be a strike because all the CUPW executives, president and NEB have made us broke.. Nothing but smoke and mirrors by these goons.. Keep promoting Gig workers CUPW, you’re nothing more than Hippocrates, you will be DE-CERTIFIED.. you won’t be missed..
Brothers and Sisters let’s not fight. Cpc and Cupw want to divide us so they can conquer. Allow everyone to vote freely without fear and bullying. We must stick together for a better future. After the results ,be happy and supportive of each other.
CUPW bullying people to Vote NO, and people are concerned. If they’re so confident why they pushing it so hard..? Corruption in its finest on Display for all to see.
Corporations bullying Me for a yes vote. Every pdt pushed a message telling us to vote yes and end this union bs. That’s not legal. That’s union busting and anti worker.
Yep! We’re all just one big happy family-NOT! And I have 2 brothers and 1 sister…that’s enough
Voting yes
I’m with you Buddy, I want my job, not unemployment because of the circus telling us to vote NO
Can we vote to decertify the union at the same time?
Let’s get the Yes vote first then we finish off the union, their time is up after all this, plus we can pursue them with labour board with violations in this negotiation.. I will push for audits as well.. They’re not getting away with stalling us for 18 months and the membership losing 5 weeks of pay..
At least have the courage to say your name coward. Normally anonymous is management
I hate to tell you this but most of Anonymous is the good workers at CPC and know they will be harrased by the mafia and its minions…There’s a lot of them making comments on here too and they’re “anonymous”
How many choices do I get when voting?
Yes
No
Maybe
Don’t Care
Other
Anymore choices?
Shameful actions by the Corp and the Government.
This is not an opportunity, this is coercion.
Shame
Shame on CUPW pushing for arbitration and trying to not let the membership vote, it’s the law, deal with it .
Shame on corp and govt trampling over our right to collective bargaining. Wake up and smell the cpc union busting which sets precedent for us and other unions also
After looking at Cpc and Cupw ,I’ve concluded that I will vote for …wait for it…ME!
Yes vote for me.
The offer is not great but the Union has not provided any counter offer or told us what will happen with a no vote. Just more uncertainty .They knew this was coming yet seem to think that keeping us in the dark will make us angry at Canada Post. Instead it has made a lot of workers angry at CUPW.
CUPW is an epic fail, no transparency, most of their demands benefit them, not the membership. It’s time to vote yes and get back to work…
Everything that’s happened in this negotiation from both sides has been a complete disaster…I am very disappointed in the government’s interference….but I’m more concerned about what’s been happening for the the last 10 years right in front of our faces. The loss of business is remarkably obvious and the complacency of CUPW leaders is concerning…..everything smells like corruption …..I am severely divided in my vote.
It’s a no.
I will vote NO!
But if you put a buy out clause in, or at least pay out my top up days so I could leave, I maybe would vote yes.
Best solution is to sell Canada Post, and get it over with once and for all. Downsize heavily, let people find their fair wage dream jobs.
But the pilots got 35%. 😂 Oh boy ridiculous. Just stop. Uneducated job…. We should be thankful 😌 outside had it good for many years. Time clock would have been beneficial.
But no , hurry cut across lawns, no breaks no lunch. Hurry change route to cut corners. We did this to ourselves. Trusting CUPW is a huge mistake. Secrets lies hiding facts of asks. Oh well. I vote yes Because this contract if and when it’s done with is only good for what few months 🤣. TBD
I don’t usually subscribe to platforms but I feel this time I would like to weigh in on this on because I believe this is the toughest fight we have ever had, the division within the ranks is unbelievable! But as a current employee and one that will be retiring within the next 5 years I realize this will be my last contract and I must say in my local I have heard many of times that we don’t care because we are on our way out, and that the fight is for the incoming employees, I find this offensive to the many many people with years of service and who had had these struggles in the past that it would be an inconvenience to you, the truth of the matter is these are the people that currently work here who’s vote count not the people who don’t work here!
Let’s see Cpc mgmt get bonuses and trips. Cupw exe utives get bonuses and trips. Workers get bleep bleep. So whether you vote YES or NO to the offer,the forementioned will still get bonuses and trips. And the workers still get bleep bleep.
That’s going to be a big fat NO from me
No one cares, majority voting Yes
You came to Canada for a chance at a better life. Here is a chance at a better life. Make sure you vote, YES or NO. Either way don’t stay away. VOTE IT MATTERS!
Interesting how just six months ago, the carriers were saying how inside workers are overpaid for what they do etc. That they should be making more money than them, but now, now they are up in arms about solidarity. The majority of people don’t deliver mail and for them this is a good deal. Never forget that they wanted to sell you out, but now are upset about their lost OT that still adds up to a 6 hour shift in reality.
If Yes wins I really hope CUPW just leaves Canada post. Would be for them a harsh taste of reality.
Yes , that would be the Best for the membership watching them leave for good.. Good riddance..
CUPW lost bargaining power when they didn’t defy the back to work legislation in Decembers strike. If they would have done that – I would stand and fight with them and vote no. However, it seems they have no leg to stand on with the Government and CPC on the other side of the boxing ring. And let’s face it… we know dynamic delivery is going to happen NO MATTER WHAT. Just get this over and done with… I’m voting yes.
I’ve seen the Cpc offer and the counter offer from Cupw. No matter what happens with the vote and afterwards
there really isn’t that big of a difference. Infact I still will buy the same groceries at a higher price. But now I can buy a 3 dollar lottery ticket. That’s it folks,but if you win the lottery you buy a lot more groceries. Lol
NO, in the spirit of rejecting the imposition in the first place. This meddling in our union affairs is a violation of the rights of workers and should be seen by all unions as a grave threat and slippery slope. What is next, they government makes us vote to decertify our union all together?
We wish Lol.
We will De-certify ourselves, you’re blind to their corruption and what they did to Canadians and the membership during Christmas is enough proof they have to go.. Cheques bouncing, people not getting paid picketing, most disorganized union ever.. They need to go, and you can go with them. We don’t need the government to tell us to remove them, their behavior and bad treatment towards our rights to vote shows they’re practicing illegal activity..
I’m voting no because I am informed…not scared
You are not scared, you are a union sheep!
Ok soup
You’re misinformed by CUPW instead of informed by facts.. Union has posted misinformation for years and no transparency.. No transparency is against the labour code
As someone with less than 10 years seniority, if this wins with a yes, I might as well just find another job.
VOTE NO!
Voting a big fat NO
50% plus 1 vote that’s all it takes. YES or NO. If you want MAYBE it takes 100%.
Vote without fear or intimidation.
Only twice since 1965 has CUPW achieved a collective agreement. Every other time has been through arbitration.
We pay $1200 dollars a year for that kind of performance.
Bye Bye CUPW.
Well said..vote yes
I have paid approximately 25k over my working career to CUPW. Wow, sure would like to have that money.
I’m voting YES also, we don’t need them, paying themselves big bucks with only 2 contracts in 60years is pathetic.
Forced vote? The government is only doing what we have been asking our fearless leaders to do. Allow the members to have a voice. Democracy rules. And now the union is telling you to vote no. Joke!
Finally, the Government is taking back Canada Post. No longer managed by CUPW.
Agreed
When you were hired Canada Post you became part of the union ,its a package deal. You get paid by Cpc and you pay dues to Cupw to do all the thinking deciding and voting for you. It’s the price you pay for working at Canada Post. Don’t like it there are lots of exits. Tim Hortons will give you free uniforms and discount on food.
Wrong, you don’t know labour codes or laws.. Your comment can be a violation through the labour board, the union works for us, and we are allowed to vote legally, bring your comment to labour board, you’ll be out of a job faster than you can blink.. We have rights, and you can keep you make beliefs to yourself. Union stalling and forced this situation, are you going to pay the small Businesses the money they lost because of The useless unions strike..? I hope you know they can sue the union for damages, better choose your words wisely before you tell anyone what to do.. We’re Voting YES and CUPW out..
Actually, nobody chose to be part of the union. It was mandatory.
It’s still your choice regardkess of CUPWs position. We pay then, they’re supposed to folliw our wishes. If you want to vote ‘yes’ then do it. Don’t be intimidated by CUPW bullying. For once, every sungle member has a vote, all 55,000 of us. This is democratic and fair. If the CUPW NEB doesn’t like it, they should resign.
Well said 👍
This is my second comment .My first comment was that I hope that I don’t come across as a bafoon.. Cpc and Cupw have that market cornered. I will vote YES,NO,MAYBE.
Canada Post and Cupw want to thank everybody who has and is making comments. They love all the attention. And wish you all success in the future.
Do you really need Cupw and fellow members to tell you how to vote? Don’t you have the brain cell and guts to decide on your own,? Aren’t you sick and tired of being a troll?
If it wasn’t for Cupw you anti union porky wouldn’t have anything. They got you all the vacations,benefits,premiums,good wage ,protection from Cpc etc. And now you turn your back on them with vote brought on by big brother. All I can say is I hope you sleep well.
And we are keeping all of that awesome stuff so what’s the issue? Give your head a shake and wake up to reality …
Back at ya, I hope all the pro union porkies are happy about bullying everyone to vote your way or no way. I do have my own brain and will use it to my advantage not to what CUPW ‘tells” me to do or use listen to whatever bullying tactics they want to use. They have done great things in the past, but they’ve become antiquated. I hope you sleep well.
We instruct all the Cupw executives to update your resumes immediately . You longer will have jobs. Your days of being dic ta tors,puppet masters are finished. Members are finally free to vote!
Yes and we will Vote Yes.. Solidarity to freedom from CUPW
I don’t care what’s in that 700 page offer. I will vote yes, simply due to CUPW’s incompetence to bargain a contract. At this point, I am looking for stability for the next few years. Contrary to some of the union junkies in the comments, I desperately need this well paying, well benefitted, and pensioned job!
So sad you actually think voting yes will bring stability. 700 page final offer. Think about it, seven hundred pages and yet all they tell is 3 or 4 items and trick you with $1000 pre tax signing bonus. Hope you can budget that $600ish post tax to buy food and pay rent when they eliminate you
Smoke and mirrors. With this contract you’ll be out of a job. Certainly won’t be a career. You like gig work I guess. You must have another secondary job or your partner is a sugar daddy.
You’re totally right. If CUPW had been able to compromise we would have had a contract in October with no strike. None of us would have lost thousands of dollars for nothing. Now it’s our choice and our vote. Every member is now equal and we can all make up our own minds.
Agreed!
I’m voting YES. Because Cupw didn’t have the coconuts to give the membership the democratic right to vote on any offers. And now Cupw is desperate and scrambling to just survive. Well guess what.? After the YES win ,they will need new jobs. Ha ha ha ha ha
NO vote here.
So what’s the big issue about the vote. We have the power — if you like it vote yes. If you don’t vote no. Or just don’t vote at all if your against the vote at all..
Your 1 no vote means nothing to the majority YES, our vote will save your job, your vote proves your lazy and a trouble maker depending on union to save your job.. All NO votes should be fired..
My vote is a NO!
No one cares.. Vote yourself into another job..
Message to CUPW:
2 things that could influence my vote to no.
1. Show me the numbers from the strike mandate vote, not percentages.
2. Show me your last counter proposal so I can see how far apart the negotiations really are.
These 2 things could help sway members to vote “NO”
agreed. but they will never show you since less than 30 per cent of membership voted back in the fall and reps were either telling member to vote for a strike, or to not vote at all. they have been screwing us for ages.
No they’re not swaying me, they’ve had plenty of time to convince and inform the members about what’s going on. I vote yes. If the outcome is no, then we go to arbitration and get screwed far worse than what CPC is screwing us with now.
Maybe when we vote they can also include the question, do you want to decertify the union? That would be very telling.
Wouldn’t that be great, but probably too much to ask.
Remember the latter 2022 and 2023 extension of the collective agreement, CUPW pushed the Vote YES agenda in favour of CPC proposal for 2% (2022) + 2 % (2023) salary increase and members magically voted Yes, dispite the official Canada inflation rate of 3,4% in 2021, 6,78% in 2022 and 3,88% in 2023. Speaking of the increased workload for it’s employees, it’s representative fact that the Canada Post achieved million parcels delivery per day records. Now that inflation went down 2% annually and work volumes are down, CUPW opposes and say vote “no” for almost same salary raise, contradicting itself for the situation it led it’s members into, since it was appropriate to negotiate a better deal then when the conditions were in favour of it’s members at that time.
Now, think of Voting YES, given actual situation, it’s a better deal than the latter extension agreement.
This is a no brainer and easy YES vote, you explained it very thorough and to the point..
I agree – I think they made a mistake by extending contract at a time when we were considered heroic. So are they now making another mistake in telling people to vote no? Kinda like sending out a report card on PC,Liberals and NDP – trying to tell us who to vote for. Not cool in a democracy.
NO
I’m grateful that the government is allowing us the right to vote. It’s troubling to see our union executives and president trying to control the narrative. As members, we deserve to be supported and heard, not dictated to or told that voting somehow undermines our rights. On the contrary, voting is our right.
If the leadership truly had our best interests at heart, they would welcome a fair, third-party vote. Instead, it seems their priority is control and expecting members to blindly follow. If you’re comfortable being told what to do without question, then by all means, keep following the president down that path. Let the executives tell you to jump, and you can ask, “How high?”
As for me, Canada Post is my employer, and I’m voting YES.
Let’s not be misled by messages like:
“PW will call on all postal workers to stand together and VOTE NO to the Employer’s offers.” This person wants control and to control you. a stubborn mule with no sense.
I, for one, vote YES to the employer’s offer and YES to new leadership. It’s time for change — time for a younger, forward-thinking president who truly represents the membership.
And thank you to Minister Patty Hajdu for making the right decision in standing up for our democratic rights.
I’m voting no because I am informed not because someone is telling me to
Yeah and thanks for forcing us back to work. I enjoyed my 5 week unpaid vacation. Maybe the government will come up with some more laws so we posties can enjoy living with zero rights. You somehow think that she is standing up for our rights? Our system of bargaining is being batted around like a ball of yarn. Unions are being forced out by government bullies. Open your eyes man.
Very well said Gary, I don’t know who you are, but you’re absolutely right, most the people don’t like changes, the lazy people who always complain are the ones who are against it calling the CUPW for making complains absurd. I vote Yes!!!
Totally agree
Canada Post: “We can’t afford to run the company because volumes are down.” Also, Canada post: “We’re going to spend billions of dollars on infrastructure to increase capacity.” Gee golly gosh I wonder why?
I am a long term CUPW member and I will be voting YES !
multiple members are reporting that they are getting pressured to vote “no”.. Stay off our backs cupw, let it be a proper democratic process.
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Cupw has instructed ALL POSTAL WORKERS TO VOTE NO TO EMPLOYERS OFFER. This is same union who didn’t allow workers to vote. It was CPC who is allowing us to vote. CUPW HAS NO CREDIBILTY.
Watch how much business and volume will magically reappear right after if a yes vote. Cpc is playing all of you and you don’t even know it. But that’s okay, everyone will then have the privilege to work longer and harder while starting later and later with supers crawling up you know where barking and harassing even more than they do already in a permanently toxic environment. By 2030 after 2% increases kiss bye bye to flyers pay. Oh boy so excited to vote yes (not!)
I have zero sympathy for people that have to work their full shift like the rest of us…If you dont like that you have to work…go work at McDonald’s and see how long you last…Im voting yes
That’s the point. If there is a yes vote then we can have a chance to win back the customers that left. Not all, since we broke the trust yet again.
The corporation will have to win back the trust of private and business customers who feel that CPC can’t be relied upon because of the uncertainty surrounding the negotiations, strikes and general discord within the corporation . I think that volumes will increase once this is resolved, but gradually. This CBA will be up for re-negotiation in just over two years. Exercise your right to vote whether yes or no, whatever the outcome it’ll be the workers who decide.
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I am voting yes.
CUPW has become so out of touch with reality.
They can instruct what ever they want, I’m doing what’s best for me. They don’t care about us, that has been made very clear. Thanks for nothing CUPW.
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We all know this proposal is not the best, however, if the vote is no, we will end up in arbitration and get far less like we always do. If letter carriers think that the arbitrator is going to have any mercy on them with flyer money, weekend work or anything thing else you are sadly mistaken. They will definitely take the side of CPC and again we will all get far less than what is offered. CUPW knows this. Do you really think they’re looking out for our best interests??? NO, they only care about their business and their pockets. This is why I’m voting YES!!!! Let’s pray this is all over soon just so we can face this 💩 again in 2 years!!!
Yep!
Yeah cause they know the average worker will go, “Wow, one thousand bucks?!” And vote yes without reading anything else.
Average worker is dumb and don’t think about the long run and CPC is hoping on that.
What’s an average worker? Someone who works for their paycheque and does’t mind working 8hr days.
We all have choices and if you don’t like your work environment you have a choice.
Wow now this dumb average worker really can’t wait to vote yes
Average worker is thinking that CUPW is actually working on their behalf! HA!
CUPW won’t know who voted for what, vote for your best interests. It is obvious they don’t care about the members, it seems they like the fight. If we vote no and get locked out, who is paying our bills!!! They still have their cushy paychecks.
Ask yourself one question do you think the federal government will continue to give CP money.
vote with the answer.
That would be a no, and NO!
No Canada post has to change !! The vote shouldn’t have be how. Many executives should be fired
I hope it gets a yes vote. I’m leaving anyways, so it will be fun to watch all the complainers, and desperate losers who couldn’t get a job anywhere else, to see what they’ve done to themselves. I can’t wait to see who is going to deliver the mail with dynamic routing and load levelling! Anyone with a brain will leave instantly. Cheers!
VOTE YES YES
That is enough with CUPW
The corporation along with the Union have really left a toxic workplace.
“you don’t vote for something bad to stop something worse”
Really!!!!!!.please explain your genius logic..I’m wating
Voting YES
Voting yes all.way.
Me too!!!
VOTE YES OR NO. WE ALL PAY TOO MUCH TAX TO NOT BE GIVEN THE DEMOCRATIC RIGHT TO VOICE OUR OPINONS.
I agreeo
Don’t be so quick to dump Cupw. There’s still a vote and if the NO wins,Cupw and Cpc will most probably go to binding arbitration. And anything can happen there.
what would happen with a yes is much worse than anyone thinks with this $1000 signing bonus 700 page Pandoras box that will gut all of us, and I mean all of us. Even you soups cruising out here won’t be immune
You are right. So let us proceed with the democratic process. If no wins there is more leverage for a bargaining arbitration. But if yes wins, that is the sentiment of the majority that cupw NEB seems to not represent anymore.
Binding arbitration we always lose. Also why did Cupw decide we wanted that? they’re scrambling lost. With all their dum asks …. Cleaning staff Bee clean to become CPC employees 🤣. Snow tires for RSMCs ? Which soon won’t exist. Absorbed into urban. They want everything letter carriers have. We want your jobs to. Bid like us 8 hour days for all
The money you lost in the strike will be a distant memory once you have SSD implemented. Get used to waking another third of a route. Oh, and if you are done early, expect to pick up some more duties on another route, because they want that ability to now load level based on daily volumes. Still think that’s no problem? Dynamic routing will be implemented across the country in the next contract. Work inside? They will hammer you too in the next contract. This is just the start of things to come. The days of the 30 year employee are over, they want to wear you out in 5-7 years and replace you with someone younger and cheaper to keep around.
Nope hire old. No legacy cost no pension. How
You mean they want you to work 8hrs for 8hrs pay! Can’t imagine.
Sadly cpc version is 10 work for 8 hr pay. You’ll fall into that category also soup
How dare they expect someone to work 8 hours a day? What a joke…Inside workers have to work 8 hours a day…plus dont forget people,we are also paid our breaks most companies arent! So book your tee off time later now in the day LCs…you’ll be working now at noon!
Let’s just take a deep breath and get our wits about us and cheer on the Edmonton Oilers . Go Oilers Go. Bring home the Stanley Cup
Go Leafs go.. I mean Golf Leafs Golf..😂
vote yes
Hi Canada post. Can you just leave our flyer bonus alone. The union doesn’t care about our flyer pay, will you?
Nobody cares about you or flyers or us or otherwise. Vote yes and find out first hand. Remember my telling you in this post. Only cards we to have play as members is NO.
Really, vote no??? So than it goes to arbitration and we All get far less than what’s being offered, like always!!
Hear hear!
voting yes 🥳
No
Cannot vote on a contract without the full details.. who would vote yes when all we’ve got is their “highlights”
But you would vote for CUPW’S offer of Gender Affirming benefits and Fertility Aid Benefits without knowing wouldn’t you.. You would vote on CUPW’s offer of snow tires for RSMCS without knowing right..? You would support a union pushing for arbitration over allowing it’s membership to vote..? Yes your points are irrelevant.
Blame your over paid union reps
Many of the illuminati prowling this site apparently would vote yes to an unread 700 page document bacause cpc told them to trust them. Just you all remember 3-6 months if after a yes vote that you were warned
Why isn’t CUPW telling you what’s in that 700 page document where 90% of it will remain the same?
Right on.
^^^EXACTLY^^^
What are we paying $105 a month for? The Union has lawyers on retainer, make them earn their money.
And we are so well informed from the union. What a joke!
Agreed
What I would like to know is what is the cost per parcel at Gateway vs Albert Jackson
I was ready to vote NO But in last few hours my union has harassed me to vote NO I am so ventictive now I will vote YES! Bleep you Cupw
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Lol .. 🤣🤣 sure
*walks up to sign next to an apple*
“This apple has been poisoned. Do not eat it.”
*turns to leave when a stranger shouts from behind*
“Don’t eat that apple!
*vendictively eats apple*
People have a right to vote any way they like—no interference from anyone. I hate paying $1200 per year for nothing. I hate losing nearly $5,000 last Xmas. Enough is enough.
That’s right. For me it was even more than $5000, not to mention the stress for the past 18 months. I took the time in Sept and voted ‘no’ to the strike because I knew it would be useless. Now finally every member hets a chance to vote. The smart ones will vote ‘yes’.
Agree
Agreed
Totally agree
Vote YES it means turning back on cupw Vote NO means more uncertainty about future. Vote with clear soul and conscious. Avoid all comments especially this one.
Uncertainty will follow either way. CPC management has shown no ability to pivot and will continue to lose hundreds of millions even with a yes vote. A no vote will send them a clear signal they need to start the change from the top, and not the bottom.
The Commissioner does not appear to have financial expertise, nor to have involved financial experts when writing his report. Widely known rule for investigating: “Follow the money”. Canada Post management has submitted financial statements for 7 years showing increasing losses, and continuing to spend on investments. How did these investments turn into losses? Why did the Board of Directors not hold management accountable? Why did the sole shareholder (Canadian government) not hold the board and management accountable? Where did the $4 billion go? What were the investments and what happened to them? So many questions not being asked.
CEO stated in the 2022 financial statements that the plan was to spend $4billion in investments over 5 years. That he has done, and now we are broke. Terrible management or malicious intent?
They are ALL in cahoots. Kaplan was in cpc back pocket. Cpc obviously has ministers ear. Those who blame the union for everything have no idea how much cpc is prepared to oppress and suppress. When the penny finally drops it will be to late
I don’t think there is a person on this earth that could run a company with cupw as a union they had to deal with. Money is no object to CUPW and it it the soul of a company.
And the CEO along with the executives have all received huge bonuses, year after year for underperforming (running the corporation into the ground). Amazing how they could do that, with a corporation on the verge of bankruptcy. Then Canada Post was handed a billion dollar loan, for mismanaging the corporation.
And just like that, thousands of managers and supervisors rush to their keyboards!
So accurate
Nailed it!!
how many of you want to bet union will convince majority employees to vote NO. They have already sent out a dissected information about each and everything canada post have proposed in the final offer. It will be a solid NO even know i am favor of getting the deal done. People with misleaded minds will be forced to pick NO.
Yes, people with misleaded minds…🙄
That depends if a majority of CUPW members are dumb enough to believe union propoganda. I think most members are smart enough and have common sense. We’ll vote ‘Yes’. That’s why CUPW is so against a vote. Don’t forget, CUPW is supposed to work for us, not the other way around.
cupw is againt the vote coz having union could be on the next vote as well. We wont need the union if this happens again. SO why waste over a 1000 dollars a year. I would rather pocket that money and do something productive with it then go to waste.
Another $1000?
That’s 2 grand. WIN/WIN
Dumb enough to vote yes without seeing the 700+ pages.
Why isn’t the union sharing what’s in the 700 pages?
People are scared and broke I bet its a Yes vote.
lol people aren’t scared and broke
No one will be forced either way. They can’t do that, but I will be voting YES!!!
Finally, a democratic vote
Yes, let the members decide!
Cupw is disappointed in the Minister of Jobs decision to allow the workers to vote. Boo who who Cupw. Finally,we the workers are going to do what Cupw failed to do ,GET IT RIGHT! YES,50% plus 1 vote .WE WIN !
Yes, yes, yes!!!
Canada Post you are ALL bullies
CUPW you are bullies, my vote is yes
But you’re with APOC?
Get out to vote NO!
my vote is a yes
Vote yes.
I’ll get out and vote yes
There are no friends. Just acquaintances. Look out for number one,that’s you! Your lifestyle,family, goals and financial well being. Then vote YES or NO.
Very true. This time they are hammering the outside workers could be inside workers next round. Do what’s best for you.
You are wrong. Look out for your children’s grandchildren. Will they survive in the world where this is the precedent we leave for them?
Voting is optional . Just like buying groceries and having a roof. All these are optional. So it’s up to you. I’m voting for Edmonton Oilers to win the Stanley Cup.
Why didn’t CPC and the government officials just write us up a contract from the start and make us sign it. Oh , wait …. That’s exactly what they’re doing.
No they’re not making us sign. We’re allowed to vote on it. That’s democratic, unlike CUPW.
Agreed
So you don’t think the Union members who pay $105 a month for Union representation, and are dissatisfied with said representation, have the right to vote? CUPW knows best? That’s rich.
I’m voting Yes********We can get the 5 minute wash up time back Once CP banking takes off. Then I’ll need the 5 minute wash up time from counting all that dirty money.
Yeahoooo$$$$$
Bring the vote!!! Surprised it took this long to come to this decision.
Really regret awhile back when I was hired , during LC training, giving that 5$ bill to that CUPW old man with a cowboy hat, as an upfront payment to be part of CUPW.
LOL luckily I had a receipt for the $5 because the Cowboy hat came around twice to collect from me.
Finally!!!! The actual employees can have a say on their own contract. What a concept. Maybe this union can finally learn a lesson or two and alter their playbook. Never seen a union so against their own members having a vote. And CP, maybe if this offer was presented last November, we wouldn’t be in this predicament, so hopefully you learn a lesson going forward too.
Big yes to voting, finally the members got an opportunity to have their say…
I am pretty sure, the final offer will be approved by at least 90% members.
That won’t happen, it’ll be a closer split. Do what’s best for you, someone just starting out will have different needs than someone with 30 years.
As long as it’s 50%+1 vote that’s all we need and that’s democracy. Vote ‘yes’.
If YES wins, CUPW will have to step down, because that will clearly show them that they are no longer a trusted union. If they don’t want to step down there will be more then enough reasons to start the process to decertify CUPW
This^
The 5 minutes wash-up time that people seem to not care about…..
I kinda agree with you, i can easily work 5 more minutes per day….
But, it does represent 1/84th of our days. We are 55k employees….it does mean more than 650 job loss across Canada…
Just there, CP is saving more than 60 million per year, every year, for the rest of their existence…
We deserve way more than 13% over 4 years +1000$….
Why vote yes????? if we vote NO, there will be a better offer…..
No there won’t. There will be binding arbitration resulting in a worse contract. You obviously haven’t worked here very long. Check your history to find out.
We will have a better shot with arbitration for sure. There’s a reason CPC doesn’t want it.
CP doesn’t want arbitration because it will be another year without a contract, which will deteriorate CPC business further
If we vote no, it’ll go into arbitration and we’ll end up with a worse deal decided by the government. CUPW did not play their hand well. I assure you it’s what’s needed for us all to keep our jobs.
CUPW never plays their hand well. It’s almost ad if Canada Post has smarter people negotiating. Sorry CUPW:(
We know the CUPW NEB won’t resign because they have no shame. But yes, 30% of the membership can sign a petition to decertify them. The sooner, the better.
Get ready to give up all your benefits too, because CPC will not hesitate to take them away.
Glad to get voting opportunity on the final offer, thanks to the Minister!
Be careful what you wish for because you just might get it
I’m definetely voting for YES!
Sorry, supervisors cannot vote.
my vote is yes to the offer and decertification of CUPW
I am voting yes! Unions won loss record is not good. Decertify! Or they should actually step down. Lazy protect the lazy.
I’m definitely voting for YES!
CPC pays my wages and always has.
CUPW doesn’t even pay minimum wage when on the picket line. That sounds fair for my $100 + union dues per month.
Hard good workers need not worry , CPC will take care of us.
You’re exactly right. Canada Post hired and pays all of us. We work for Canada Post. We pay CUPW more than $1200 a year. They’re supposed to work for us. The Minister and government have listened to the voices of the majority of Canada Post workers. Democracy is working, even if CUPW wants to stop it. This is a good day!
Lol
When they privatize you will be out of a job too soupy.
Exactly! I always say this “ I work for Canada Post, they pay me.. I don’t work for CUPW”
I didn’t even know what a union was before starting this job, I wish I could’ve just opted of union participation.
About time
FINALLY !! a move..
Vote YES!
I agree.
This will be a big YES! Hopefully the CUPW realizes that their owners, those who pay them, are not happy at all with the way they are doing things .
Their owners? Wow. How did they pick this batch of trolls?
So what’s the big issue about the vote. We have the power — if you like it vote yes. If you don’t vote no. Or just don’t vote at all if your against it
Now the dismantling of CUPW for making us suffer and five weeks lost wages.
Quickly followed by the dismantling of canada post. A yes vote will be just the beginning
Yes thankfully the adults are winning.
The only thing I don’t like in this is the dynamic routing, it’s way too vague!
I’ll be voting no for that reason.
For me work is work, the company pays me to do a job. The only issue for me is the potential stop of per piece flyer pay, that’s a lot of money lost… But still voting YES
You’ll. Regret that
It’s a pilot, of course it’s vague, they haven’t actually tried it do it yet.
If that’s the only reason you’re voting no maybe wait and see if we get more info before the vote first
Yes, they’ve tried it before, and it hasn’t worked. But they insist on trying it again, which means implementing it in the near future.
I will be voting yes for sure. All you NO voters should find new employment if you don’t like the workforce you are in.
Tell me where you read all 700+ pages or do you usually sign things without reading them?
Get the union to show you the 700 pages you pay them to represent you…im voting yes.
Why can’t they show us? They show us 4 pages ..? But don’t read the fine print
What has the union showed you at this point. All they’ve done so far is disagree and insult. We would’ve liked to have seen a counter offer made by CUPW.
Maybe the Union should be posting those 700 complete pages so we can be clear on what we are voting on .
The union doesn’t want real information out there. Only propoganda and talking points. Have you read their bulletins?
Open your mind a little. You sound like you haven’t been with cpc all that long. Remember last man in, first man out. There will be a lot of that if yes wins.
THE RSMC will be going to an hourly rate of pay and the union is tell us that it will only be %75 of LC rates. Can you please clarify what our hourly rates will be starting at and capped at as i feel false info is being spread
It doesn’t matter. Nothing else mayters
According to all the illuminati out here voting yes will solve all of our and the worlds problems. A yes vote is the answer to everything on our new paths to perfect lives and work life balance all under the watchful eye of a caring and nurturing employer known as canada post.
The days of CUPW and its lazy supporters are near the end. For those who work hard and don’t need a shop steward to hold their hand 24/7 it’s a grand deal.
For those who cheat and slack, you should be rightfully scared because the paid vacation while at work is OVER for you!!!
I’ve worked for CP for a long time now, and only once I was obligated to use a shop steward because it’s policy, even though I told them I didn’t need a shop steward , was regarding a parking ticket
Me as well. Used them once tho it was unnecessary but that was the procedure.
Now it’s the same people in trouble continuously wasting time and getting people off the work floor when they need to be processing or delivering mail.
Imagine the $100,000s of dollars wasted across the country this way.
This must end for the company to be competitive.
There is no way you’ve worked at cp a long time. Only new employees would think this is a good idea to vote yes
Then again perhaps your just one of the slackers who needs a union rep holding their hands 24/7???
Yeah, CUPW ,, build up the power and solidarity, fight for the world peace and antipollution and climate change, commemorations and support of somewhere&something and alike movements, political inclined influence on members during elections campaign, other and similar delusional staff that has nothing to do with employees interest – Work to earn their living!! They need to pay their bills that matters! That’s why they work at CP.
Vote YES!! And go on!!
In our depot, one of the LCAs was running around telling co-workers to vote ‘No’. Of course this person is one of the laziest, worst workers in our office. A typical CUPW groupie. Of course, the majority of workers are honest and hard-working. That’s why CUPW is so scared of the vote.
Amen
Agreed
There are a LOT of CPC employees who appear to never have had a different job…such as working in a non-union environment or for themselves. This is an EASY job. There are too many whiners.
Canada Post is showing how truely flexible it is being trying to bypass the negotiation process. Your “offer” is terrible. Go back to the negotiation table and show some of that flexiblilty you have been demanding.
I don’t agree
If you think the offer is ‘terrible’, then vote no. Or don’t even vote. Luckily the majority don’t agree with you.
Lol…spoiled work force and lazy
Yup
no
The last time I looked at my pay it was coming from Canada Post. That is whom I work for. Thank you for the opportunity to vote. It will be a big YES from me
Exactly!
Seems now we can vote the union kool aid drinkers are about to flood this comment section with their toxic lies. As long as cupw is kept away from being involved in ANY part of this vote, it should be fair and true.
That’s true. The government wants the vote to be conducted fairly and properly. CUPW only knows propoganda and intimidation.
I will gladly vote Yes if and only if Management and Supervisors reimburses all bonuses since 2018
Good luck with that.
How about focusing on the current CBA?
Canada post needs to stop give out bonuses
You get paid what ever is your salary only then will have money to support benefits that all Canada post employees need let’s start thinking about team Canada Post not team individually stations or unions
And the LC’s reimburse the employer for all hours they were paid for but didn’t actually work since 2018.
YES YES YES YES YES AND MORE YES BRING ON THE YES PLEASE
If yes prevails. Let’s see 3-6 months from now. All the yes babies will crying what have we done
I vote YES 100% let’s move forward
Thank you very much
One step forward and about 20 steps back. Vote yes and you’ll be sorry inside of 3 months
without hesitation my vote is yes
I have been here for over 25 years. Have gone through many contracts and in my position this is by far the best deal that has ever been offered. I do agree that if you have a different position like LC, this may not be your best deal. The question that everyone must ask themselves before they vote, can/will I get a better offer than this?
Vote what is best for YOU and not what someone else tells you.
Cupw pls call the Law firm of DO YOU,CHEATEM AND HOW. THE BEST CORRUPT LAWYERS union dues can buy. They will find a loophole in this drama. Really.
Hopefully we get to vote NO as soon as possible .
OH by the way Canada Post their is still a 300 million dollar Cola grievance out there .
Open your pocket books
my vote is a yes
I love it, let’s waste more time and then vote no. Then let’s see if the company will show us a little respect.
That’ll be a hard NO for me
I couldn’t vote yes but I wouldn’t vote no.
Will there be a rally this weekend? Will Cupw provide coffee?
YES! YES! YES! Finally the actual employees will speak rather than out of touch union executives
It is a breach of our constitutional rights to have our elected union representatives negotiate and bargain for us.
It is important to vote no and stand up to the government and Canada post bullying a contract on us that gives up rights our brothers and sisters have for tirelessly for.
Send the negotiations to arbitration with a fair a just framework.
About time. CUPW has been whining incessantly that the only fair contract is one the members can vote on. And yet, the NEB hasn’t let the members see or vote on any offers. The NEB has always, including this past December, been vehemently against arbitration, but now they want it? Bunch of hypocrites. I’m glad we can now vote, and will vote yes. Time to decertify and go with another union.
Guaranteed regardless of vote outcome cupw will still be here years from now. All the big talkers out here hiding behind anonymous will not lift a finger to oust union.
“Hey, Fidel, here’s your box, there’s the door.”
Where’s my severance pay? My tickets to Cuba? My Tim Horton s gift card?
Hey Cuba dude is back!
It is about time..do not let the union bully you into a vote that they want..its time to come to an agreement..I vote yes
Y’all really love waiting on daddy government to step in, huh? Can’t do things by ya self?
Thanks for providing this prime example of the lack of maturity & typical IQ of CUPW Kool-aid drinkers.
You get the respect you deserve.
Nah. CPC hasn’t been respecting anyone with how they been negotiating. Sitting back cause they know the government will step in.
You know, Mr. Supervisor. They’ll come for you too.
If only that were true. The CUPW NEB owes me thousands in lost wages. Actually they owe 55,000 people thousands of dollars each.
Better to have ‘Daddy’ (the government)decide than children like our CUPW execs Lol.
Or like the fat cats in CPC who sits on the butts waiting for the government to do something. They’re playing everyone like a fiddle and they’re not even good at it.
Save my post office? It’s not YOUR post office! We are lucky enough to be employed by a great Canadian company….always grateful – vote yes and it will be saved.
Any letter carrier voting “yes” on this garbage understands absolutely nothing about contract negotiations. Any inside worker voting “yes”, be careful, you’re outnumbered and when the corporation comes for you, you will have no friends.
This is the easiest NO vote I have had working for this company!
Votes are private, and you will never know who voted what.
Not the point, sir.
Maybe you should do a one-person walk out, since you’re ‘happy to walk’. The majority will be happy to vote ‘Yes’. Thanks for your input though.
Already done! Called in for tomorrow. If the union won’t strike, I’ll do it on my own principles!
Burning your personal days when there’s no mail or parcels, you really stuck it to them good!
My best friends are me, myself and I .I have been stabbed in back many times by union coworkers and management . I definitely have no friends on either side . Definitely not scared of anyone either .Take your your threats and stick it you no where.
Yes…I “no” where. 🙄🙄
I’ll be voting yes.
Do I love all the changes? No. But I would like there to be a job to get me to retirement, and to continue to pay my mortgage and bills and support my family. To do that some change is necessary while still protecting what matters to me most.
I do not feel represented by the NEB and would vote for their removal or decertification in a heartbeat. Their ideas to generate more money, justice for janitors, gender affirming care, fertility treatment, snow tires, 5 minutes to wash my hands, and all their other demands are not worth lost pay cheques to me, those are not what I’m fighting for. It’s not 1980, time to accept some changes for the benefit of future employment
Very well thought out and realistic opinion. I totally agree.
Where is the full contract? We’re not allowed to read all the 700+ pages? Disgusting management
So if we vote YES, CPC has the money to operate and pay our salary plus signing bonus! If we vote NO, they will cry that they will be bankrupt in 3 months! Can anyone make sense of this nonsense!
CUPW is like Hollywood the cloths are more and more revealing until they are naked. Its all about control of the members to get at the 60 million.
I 100% welcome the opportunity to vote. The offer isn’t perfect but I feel it’s reasonable and deserves to be put to a vote. Let the employees have their say because enough is enough already.
What I find funny is how people could be opposed to a vote? We live in Canada (democracy) and although CUPW execs spend most of the members money in Cuba we are not a dictatorship and living in communism. I also think it is strange a small group would control the life and fate of 55,000 members. Let everyone vote! If the deal is good enough it goes through, if it isn’t then it doesn’t. Not that hard to figure out .. but when my local shop Stewart is telling me how to vote or better yet telling me I shouldn’t get to vote I find it strange, and even stranger people in these comments support not having a say … very confusing times … I’ll be a hard YES
Good point now you know what we are dealing with .The socialists who want you control you and our future for their agenda .
I agree with you.
CUPW has to go Their thinking has been crazy for the last 30 years But having the corporation and government collude. Is terrible 😢. What a mess CUPW shame on you for all your stupidity in negotiating Fire the lot Go back to your positions. Sheese
Really Cupw. You demand Binding Arbitration. Too late. The Minister is within her legal right to allow the membership to vote. CUPW BYE BYE BYE
Read up on Clear Medical Imaging deal. The membership were forced to vote. They turned it down 96%. They were then arbitrated a reasonable deal. Exact same situation.
Except people in the medical field work for companies that make loads of money, CPC is broke …can’t really compare
100% this! What people keep forgetting when bringing up other cases is that they always involve a company with disgusting profit margins! The LA Longshoreman went on strike because their labour was generating millions in profit and they weren’t being compensated fairly. It baffles me that members fail to understand “months away from insolvency” means drastic organizational and operational changes need to happen or none of us will have jobs!
They are broke , but yet found 55 million to pay in signing bonuses?
Exactly
People who say they are voting yes, were voting yes to the previous offer…and the first offer……
All those scared people should be happy that the NEB got them this last offer!!!
We were getting nearly 6% on our last paychecks as COLA compensation….
13% minus that 6% means we are only getting a 7% raise over 4 years…
On that fact alone, my vote will be a NO!!
Vote “yes’. Then begin to decertify
If I was still a CUPW member, I would vote yes. For once, people, take matters into your own hands instead of being guided by union propaganda.
Instead, you should all be like me, guided by corporate propaganda!
Yeah! Instead you should be guided by corporation propaganda! 🇺🇸Let’s get this gig work going!
Huge NO vote
If this forced contract vote goes through you might as well just give up. This will be the new normal. Hopefully our membership has the intelligence to see that the only reason CPC does not want final arbitration is because they know that we will get a far better deal from an arbitrator than what they offered us already. Stand united.
How is the vote forced? Every CUPW member gets amchance to vote. They can choose to vote ‘no’ or choose not to vote at all. It’s actually totally democratic. We know that’s not normal for CUPW though.
LOL What?! We’ve never received a better deal from arbitration!
Welcome to 51st State!
I think we need a new union, one that knows how to negotiate and one that knows the meaning of give and take. They have had their chests so puffed up, for so long, and they have forgotten how to listen to other ideas. Not that I agree with CPC, I just think both sides are at fault here! Will i vote yes so that it’s over and done with? Probably….should I have to? No, but i know that the east will decide it all for us and our western voices are very small.
We need a new union!
Probably not the greatest idea to force Union members to bypass their negotiating team to vote on your “offer”. Sowing division amongst the work force, great idea! But I guess future labour peace isn’t really in the plan, is it? Maybe you’ll thank us by giving us a pizza party! Can’t wait to retire, I truly hate what this company become.
Resign and go work for a better company you like then. Not that hard to figure out and I am sure multiple people would want your position.
It is true,50 percent plus 1 vote. That’s it . We get some peace of mind ,security,stability and can get on with our lives.
Yes vote for me tired of this
You have NOT been negotiating in good faith! The last offer is offensive with its signing bonus, that’s the first glaring clue as to how bad it is. Hoping we’ve been starved enough that a pathetic bonus will sway votes in your favour. Do better
Well, this is where the rubber hits the road.
CUPW executive have been claiming that the majority of membership would reject the corporation’s final offer but the comments and views expressed on various media from the members seem to tell a different story. I guess we’re about to find out.
VOTE NO
Hands off!!!!!!
Soooooooo ready for a vote. Let’s end this. Whoops, my vote is HECK NO. What now? Is it over?
More than happy for a vote! A big NO. Now what?
Happy to hear I now have a say!
Has anyone even considered remote communities? This is an attack on First Nations and all Canadian living outside of major city hubs.
The impacts of the “best” offer from the corporation: https://www.cupw.ca/en/fact-sheet
Have you read some of these? Overtime is not a right. The 5 minute wash up is just ridiculous, everyone else in every other industry manages to wash their hands during their lunch break just fine without an additional 5 minutes. Most workplaces you have a probationary period before pension or benefits kick in. Complaining about “getting the most out of the 8 hours”…um, yeah, that’s what we’re paid for, welcome to the real world
The RSMC section writes the impacts in red like it’s all bad…even the parts that are actually positive 🤦🏽♀️
Get real 5 minutes wash up time people start the lunch break 10 to 15 minutes early
Yes! I agree with you
Wow CUPWs viewpoint. Nice propoganda link Lol. Most members are smart enough to make up their own minds.
No worries, listening to the Corporation’s propaganda cancels it all out
Not the most reliable source….
They don’t even mention the loss of per pay flyer bonus, but mention the 5 min wash up time ..LOL!! Enough with CUPW, we need something else !
Very good and it’s about time. Thank goodness we have adults, ie. the Minister and government to move this forward. Don’t let CUPW bullies in your work places intimidaye you. Remember, for once all 55,000 members have a chance to end this mess.
Vote No and we are guaranteed arbitration.
Boo
Canada JOKE
How can you sleep at night knowing you’re eroding the rights of your great grandchildren?
You mean things like the right to vote? Remember if you don’t want to vote, you don’t have to. Of course most of us do want to vote.
LOL dramatic much?
“Sales are down!” Why is that the fault of the people delivering the mail? Why not be the fault of marketing, telling customers not to use Canada Post?
This is an outrage. The government always gets involved and CPC knows that. Instead of not seeing where the problem lies, which is the mismanagement and their bonuses they get for running the company into the ground on the backs of the letter carriers that go out there and bust their butts every single day. This is CPC’s next tactic to get what they want instead of negotiating a fair collective agreement. Hope they get a big NO VOTE to show them that we are not taking this anymore.
The union uses the government as well Hadju gave the union a chance…she should of pushed for the vote 2 weeks ago..
Disgusting. Fire management.
Solidarity for the victims, i mean workers
Gonna be a NO from me
Shame on you, Canada Post. Shame on you, government.
Boo hoo. Maybe don’t vote then, out of protest. Just let the good workers vote Lol.
Hands off my post office!
CUPW and the employees dont own the PO what a ridiculous slogan!
The parties remain at an impasse because the corporation doesn’t have to negotiate if they just wait for the government to remove workers’ rights, bypass the union and force a vote.
It’s not actually a forced vote. It’s an opportunity to vote. If you don’t believe in democracy, don’t vote. It’s every member’s choice.
Sorry to hear you don’t understand how unions work.
Because I want to keep on living in a house and not on a tent, I’m Voting YES!
Stop making so much sense Lol.
You are currently still working
Because Canada post is definitely offering enough pay to afford a house and eat and get to work and have a family.
There’s a great big world outside of CPC, just sayin’.
Good! Ready to vote yes
No
draconian emplyer
Then quit
Delusional union “leadership”.
I will be more than happy to vote. Yes, on the proposed agreement … The membership will also have to consider what to do with the union
If YES wins the union , CUPW will have to step down if they understand the message
I agree!